14b on integra gsr with jdm b18c?

[Jarg-gst]

Hey all,

I haven't posted here in a while, since i've sold my dsm. Anyway, my roomate has a GSR Integra with a JDM B18C motor. He's looking at doing a cheap turbo setup and I told him that he might wanna look into the 14b turbos. So the question is, how easy is it to get a 14b to fit his motor and what parts/upgrades would he need? I figure he can find most parts off a 1g dsm the problem would be making it fit. He really isn't looking at running much boost, maybe just 6 psi or so assuming his engine can handle that. Anyone with any experience with any hondas/acuras wanna comment?

PS. he has a couple mods like a skunk2 intake mani, exhaust, and a few other basics if I remember correctly.

 

[herovueboi]

Right off the back, I can tell you that the 14b turbo at 6psi is useless. First off all though, find a manifold that could actually bolt onto his GS-R motor. That is a start, after that has been solved, finding a t3/t4 turbo would benefit much more than a 14b turbo. A 14b turbo just doesn't cut it in that B18C motor, trust me. My cousin is running the same exact turbo on his crx and it creats just enough boost with a good deal of lag.

I understand that the B18C is a much more powerful motor, but the 14b turbo will not be enough.

 

[mgcook]

for me having a GSR swap in my hatch a 14b will not even do anything for your car. if you have a D16 or something it will be fine, but you have too much displacement for that turbo. it will run out of breath around 6k

 

[mgcook]

if you want a good turbo for your GSR get a T3/T04E 57 trim, with the right parts you will make 300whp on 10psi stock block and head

 

[Jarg-gst]

I see, thanks for the replies. He was hoping to go cheap but looks like thats gonna be tough. How about a 16g? I say kinda wanna recommend him to look at mistu turbos cause I can find them for cheap. t3/t4 usually run a bit more as far as I can understand. BTW, do you know what manifold I can tell him to look at. Something that would bolt onto his engine easily? Not sure on the amount of work it will take, just trying to get an idea to see if it will even be practical, it may not, and he may just have to go for a 1g if he wants a turbo. He's only got a $500-$1000 to spend at most.

 

[herovueboi]

if you want a good turbo for your GSR get a T3/T04E 57 trim, with the right parts you will make 300whp on 10psi stock block and head

I don't know about that...Basically because the T3/T04E 57 trim will take a good deal of mods to get 300HP plus. I have that exact kit but with a larger .63 trim. My kit hasn't taken my H22 up there yet. The previous owner of my turbo kit only made 283HP at 9psi. Just a little information, I could be wrong though. The B18C has less displacement and starts with about 30 horsepower short. Just a thought.

I personally have no personal experience with anything over a 16g turbo. I have read post about B18Cs from Honda-tech and his best bet would be to find a ball-bearing turbo though. These turbos that you speak of are all thrust bearings and will take time and power to spool up. I believe that if your friend plans to turbocharge his GS-R, $1000 will not take him too far. Turbocharging will plague a honda motor over and over again, they start reliable but then you will need tuning after you turbocharge it. After you tune it you will need to maintain the car religiously with maintence. The B18C isn't a bulletproof motor for boost, it holds a higher compression which isn't great for boosting applications. He needs to get lower compression to be able to run that much boost on a daily driven GS-R.

 

[mgcook]

I don't know about that...Basically because the T3/T04E 57 trim will take a good deal of mods to get 300HP plus. I have that exact kit but with a larger .63 trim. My kit hasn't taken my H22 up there yet. The previous owner of my turbo kit only made 283HP at 9psi. Just a little information, I could be wrong though. The B18C has less displacement and starts with about 30 horsepower short. Just a thought.

I personally have no personal experience with anything over a 16g turbo. I have read post about B18Cs from Honda-tech and his best bet would be to find a ball-bearing turbo though. These turbos that you speak of are all thrust bearings and will take time and power to spool up. I believe that if your friend plans to turbocharge his GS-R, $1000 will not take him too far. Turbocharging will plague a honda motor over and over again, they start reliable but then you will need tuning after you turbocharge it. After you tune it you will need to maintain the car religiously with maintence. The B18C isn't a bulletproof motor for boost, it holds a higher compression which isn't great for boosting applications. He needs to get lower compression to be able to run that much boost on a daily driven GS-R.

look on honda-tech...peakboost kits are making 300+whp with their kits on 10-12psi

stock everything a person made 315whp on 11psi on a B18C1

its not that hard to make power

and do you have a 63 trim turbo or a .63 a/r?

 

[mgcook]

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1213238&page=5

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1289876

 

[herovueboi]

and do you have a 63 trim turbo or a .63 a/r?

Turbonetics T3/T40E Stage III 63 trim, its from a drag turbo kit.

 

[TooFastTooG]

Since when did we talk about GSR Motors in the newbie forum

 

[Jarg-gst]

Since when did we talk about GSR Motors in the newbie forum

...Since I was asking about a dsm turbo... If you don't like it go read another thread...

 

[mgcook]

Turbonetics T3/T40E Stage III 63 trim, its from a drag turbo kit.

what are you revving to? bump it up to 10psi and tune it, you will be pleased

also, h22's tend to be slower than a b-series when turbo'd. i dont know why, but they just do.

but since the thread starter only has 1k to work with he wont be making much more than 230whp.

 

[herovueboi]

Thanks for the links, I have never seen such a powerband like that on a GS-R. Though, I was kind of thinking, the first set-up on that dyno blew, so I'm guessing not everyone could just slap on that kit, with minor mods and BAM 300HP+. Oh well, DSM love goes out to ya

It's not installed on my car yet actually, just the person that I purchased the kit gave me a powerband list you could say. He told me how much power he ended up with and it wasn't as powerful as that. It is a .63 and I guess in my case..."no replacement for diplacement" was PWNED by boost. , learn something new everyday.

Besides, I hope the thread helps noobs in the future. This is why we post this kind of information, so that noobs will search and one day find an answer to such a question. Rock on!

 

[Defiant]

Integra?

Never heard of a DSM "Integra".