Your opinion of the 2006 eclipse

[BLUEBLOTCH]

Well I work at an aftermarket accersories shop. Part of my job is to pick-up and deliver cars. I have driven GTOs, Bentleys 03 Mustang Cobras Several BMWs etc.

I got in not expecting much and that is what I got. The Rockford Fosgate sub hit hard. but the power was not there in the engine. I was NOT driving the GT yet it was a 5 spd. I was pretty dissapointed. The Interior is VERY bland and the outside is ok I hate the Chrome wing. Anyways If anyone has Questions . I dont know if this has been talked about before just thought I would post up. It happened several weeks ago.

 

[02BLUR]

They should have called it the "6000SUX"

 

[Injected]

They should have called it the "6000SUX"

I wonder how many people get that? At least the 4G gets decent MPG.

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[DSM BEEYACH]

Well just when i thought Mitsubishi couldn't make an uglier car than their 3g they really out did them selves with this 4g. All i could say is wow that's one hideous looking car. Where are they going with their designs. Its looks like they are trying to go with the supra/3000gt style head lights that spill over on to the hood but, make them to round. The car to me looks like if a chicken was raped by turtle and crap'd out an egg. I'm sorry but, i don't see how some of you guys could even compare it to a 350zx. It looks nothing like it at all. I'm not to happy about what they did with the 350zx but, at least they kept their RWD from 300zx and, didn't make it to round. Anyway in my opinion the 2G design was by far the best and near perfect and would be if it was a bit wider. Anyway i think Mitsubishi made huge mistake by dumping their 2g design because there was still so much that they could have done with it. One the other hand i really like what FORD did with their new mustang.

 

[02BLUR]

I wonder how many people get that? At least the 4G gets decent MPG.

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I wondered if someone would

 

[bmxfelon420]

I think the 4g sort of looks like a 2g but more spread out, its like they sank the cabin into the car and lengthened it. I like the look of it, but it really does need turbo and AWD to truly become awesome.

I wholeheartedly agree with some of you in saying that the 3g looks like a shitty japanese grand am, ill never buy one of them just on account of how hideously ugly every aspect of them is. Where the grand am is just laughable and rediculous the 3g is sad looking and homely.

 

[urcnjoe]

I understand why they don't bring back the 4g63 awd in the Eclipse, because of the Evo, but really the Evo isn't that great of a seller. Yes it is a great performance car but, but for $30k + I would not be willing to dish that kind of cash out for a 4 door that IMO doesn't even look very good. Bringing back the AWD Eclipse would give buyers a totally different option of having a sportier looking 2 door performance machine. From what I've read Mitsubishi is really not doing well with Evo sales so why not stir things up and go old school with the Eclipse. I've seen the spy shots of the future Evo and from what I've seen things are only going to get worse for Evo sales . Sorry for hating on the Evo's. I love the performance and all, but I just can't get past the style. I agree with what most people are saying about the nose of the new Eclipse. It doesn't look good with the big plastic diamond sticking out. When I saw the car at the auto show last year it looked much better. They must have changed it up before production.

 

[igopoopy]

the 06 eclipse is slow i raced one a stock pt cruiser and won by a car lenght

 

[dr1ftx3]

the 06 eclipse is slow i raced one a stock pt cruiser and won by a car lenght

Lmao, a PT Cruiser? Anyway, seeing as the 3g lasted mitsu 5 years I wonder how long this thing can hang on? I don't give it long...

 

[Goodguy162000]

Mmm... looks good.

 

[Booster-Shot]

At least Mitsu is trying to make the 2g magic happen again. The car isnt perfect, but think of the car you guys are comparing it to. The ever so sexy 2g, not many cars IMO come close to looking as good. Now if you compare it to other cars in its class right now celica, rsx, wrx it looks pretty nice.

I totally agree on the comment about affordable compact cars. The era of suvs completely destroyed a lot of the cars we loved (3000gt, supra,300zx, even the celica). But now with raising gas prices, I think were going to be seeing a lot more affordable little cars for a whole new generation of tuning. I mean with the sti, evo, 350z, even the scion tc all here now this is a really good time to be into cars. I personally love the concepts for the new evo that will be comming out in like 08, while I think the new sti is pretty fugly. Theres the supra concepts shown before, the new civic si, that new nissan thats comming out too. Its just kinda exciting whats going to happen in the next few years.

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[JTito]

All I can say about the new eclipse is that its NON TURBO!!!!! God dam....they done away with all the cool turbo cars...Supra...300zx and why? From what I can see mad people still want these cars and the resale for Supras is still really really high. New Eclipse looks o.k if it were turbo id be more appealing I think.

 

[tstkl]

you all complain, but if the new eclipse was a turbo'ed(since its a v6 it would be twin turboed) awd car it would cost well over 45k, how many of you are willing to pay that, cuz the dads of all those rich girls are willing to pay the 30k the new eclipse costs now...(aka how many of you have 45k for a new car...close to none of you.....thats what i thought... i know i couldnt aford a 4g, let a lone a awd tt 4g.... and looks are just personal preferance, the automotive industry cant just start producing the 2g again, people want something new... thats what sells,


although the 3kgt was 45k, so some would sell... and i would like spending every weekend looking for a dealer where i havent "test drove" a new awd tt 4g eclipse at....

the eclipse has evolved into something new, and soon the evo will too, but why should we worry, by the time obdiii comes out, tuners wont have a new car market...

let the car industry turn from turbos, then us tuners will just have to find another way to sap 1000 hp out of cars made for 200....

if all you guys have to complain about is the new 4g, thats sad... look at production of mtx cars, its WAY down, and anyone have any idea whats going on in iraq? were running out of oil, when companies start producing cars that arent gasoline based, then we should complain... or better yet, try how toyota is getting so much money and isnt even producing any sports cars... (mr2s are slow, as are celicas....) they are pulling out of indy, and they scrapped the plans for that 500 hp hybrid supra... SO LETS GIVE THEM MORE MONEY SO THEY CAN MAKE A LEXAS GS HYBRID!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Defiant]

Couple of things. One, the turbo AWD was a pathetically tiny part of the DSM sales percentage- on the order of 7%. It was a $25+K car in its day. A turbo AWD in a modern Eclipse would undoubtedly crowd $50K. None of us who want one could qualify for them.

As for this red herring of it being "competition" for the Evo, aren't car companies already making competition with their own products by selling a small engine, medium engine and big engine in the same chassis? I don't see the "competition" in having the same drive train in different bodies.

Still, and as always in the car world, it's all a matter of what the bean counters say. If you think the customer enters into the equation, you have some growing-up to do. Car manufacturers care as much about what we like as a farmer cares which feed his livestock more completely consume. They both only care about their overhead and profit ratios.
Kind of an odd circumstance when you consider Mitsubishi's books.

 

[Mr.Tao]

Not Impressed One Bit...and that EVO X spyshot is F'UGLY. It can go sit in the same corner as the STI. For most of the people complaining about the new eclipse not being AWD and turbo, you probably cant afford it or be able to get a loan for it if it was anyways. Probably wait 10 years and scavage thru used car mags looking for a used Turbo AWD eclipse for $3995. Seems like Mitsu is either trying not to compete with the EVO or have the eclipse NA (same boat as the Hondas/Acuras) and the EVO all Turbo. They've done all the Turbo AWD's before. Didnt make mch money I bet like they should have and the AWD trend didnt set in the 90's. I like the Eclipse being NA. Just make it RWD naturally aspirated and I'll be all over it. The style of the car is reminiscient of the 2G. NOT a Tiburon like some have said. A Tiburon Actully LOOks like a 2G.

 

[zerotta]

I wonder how many people get that? At least the 4G gets decent MPG.

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RoboCop!

It is funny how the rear of the 4g looks just like the front. Is it coming or going? Being fwd, it will never be able to truely compete with the 350Z/G35 as a total package. I will say I think the 3g is far uglier though.

And the new Mustang??? Please. This retro fad needs to die . . .

 

[zerotta]

(since its a v6 it would be twin turboed)

Why would it necessarily be twin turbo just because it's a V6? You don't NEED a turbo for each bank of cylinders.

I'd say it would likely be twin turbo'd. But it's not necessarily a given. Either way, one thing that is certain is it's not going to happen from the factory.

Why did the 3000GT-Stealth/Supra/300ZX/MR2/RX7 die and/or stopped getting imported? Because nobody was buying them at the time for various reasons and the increasing emissions standards that are difficult for turbocharged cars to pass. They were expensive to manufacture and import into the US. Besides, large car companies don't rely on their high-end performance cars to make profits. When they start to lose money for the company, they become expendable. They're just image cars for the company. "Buy a car from the same company that makes the __________."

Somehow along the way, sedans became cool. I remember when sedans were for parents/old people and the 16-25 demographic wouldn't even consider a 4-door car when they wanted something with performance. I guess I'm so old fashioned at 28.

Drop the EVO drivetrain into the 4g and it will get a whole lot prettier to a lot of people on this forum. Me included.

 

[-silencer-]

Somehow along the way, sedans became cool. I remember when sedans were for parents/old people and the 16-25 demographic wouldn't even consider a 4-door car when they wanted something with performance. I guess I'm so old fashioned at 28.

Drop the EVO drivetrain into the 4g and it will get a whole lot prettier to a lot of people on this forum. Me included.

We can thank insurance costs and the 4 door civic crowd for that. They helped make the 4 door mid-size become a popular sporty car. The 4g is still too heavy for my taste, and would only increase in weight with AWD.

A turbo AWD in a modern Eclipse would undoubtedly crowd $50K. None of us who want one could qualify for them.

Why would removing 2 doors and changing the style a bit from the Evo to a hatchback result in a $15k price increase? (not including production costs for making a different model - just for comparison if they made the current 4g this way) $30-35k seems reasonable for a 4 cyl turbo AWD 2 door coupe considering the primary difference from the Evo would be 2 doors. $40k would be more in line with a turbo V6 AWD drivetrain - like the Audi A6.

 

[w1kk3d]

I wonder how many people get that? At least the 4G gets decent MPG.

If you call 14-18mpg decent

 

[JLeach50]

Well, the styling is a huge improvement from the 3g, but of course i agree it's not the 2g (nothing ever will match). i'd still like to see how some body kits, etc. come out for it. but, yeah it sucks that the eclipse has become, as someone pointed out, a cheerleadermobile.

also, it seems logical on paper to make sure the eclipse and evo don't compete, but i agree w/ defiant- i don't think they would just because of similar drivetrains. the reason is b/c there are 2 different preferences out there for Japanese cars: the Japanese sports cars and the true sport compacts. i, too miss the old body styles that were wider, longer, and w/ more curves. unfortunately for us who prefer that style, everyone has jumped on the sport compact bandwagon. but b/c everyone is on it, i would bet that someone (especially if it were a car w/ the following that the eclipse has) would do really well w/ a car that looked and performed like that of our beloved 2nd gen. or another of its time period.

as for the supra concept, it gave me a semi. i'd hold out for it too b/c of the fact that it does look like, in darkness's words, the "bastard child of an Aston Martin and a Viper." as long as its performance lives up to its name, i'm there dude.

 

[pnishr]

I hate it. It looks just like a mercury cougar. nasty. and the 3.8l only making that much power is ridiculous. toyota can get 180hp out of a 1.8l on a Celica, but Mitsubishi can't even break 300 on a 3.8? That's sad. especially with MIVEC/VVTi/etc. somebody should have questioned all that displacement's efficiency with numbers that low before production.

 

[-silencer-]

i'd hold out for it too b/c of the fact that it does look like, in darkness's words, the "bastard child of an Aston Martin and a Viper." as long as its performance lives up to its name, i'm there dude.

Aston Martin-Viper.. and that's a bad thing? I personally think it looks more like the curves of a Corvette with the design of a 2g Eclipse. The front end is more 'vette and the rear end is very similar to the 2g Eclipse. The side looks like a cross of both. Not many production cars are nearly as radical as the concept, so I'd expect toned-down curves and possibly a rework of the headlights to match the clean look of the rear. We'll get a better idea in late October in the Tokyo Auto Show.

 

[JLeach50]

Oh, no, that's a great thing! I'm a total Viper freak! I mostly like Aston's designs as well. But, I hope your right about the headlights; i think they could use a lil more work. can't wait to see it done though.

 

[sciroccosven]

Hmmmm, well the first thing that comes to mind is 3,500 lbs of understeer. The first thing I can picture is slamming into a gaurdrail because Im driving a 3,500 lb "Sportscar" with a big v6 under the hood and the rear wheels are just along for the ride. Im not sure who they are trying to fool by the continuation of the eclipse name. The people who were in the market to buy the 1g and 2g cars are the people that are buying the wrx's, the gti's, the acura rsx's. There is a huge market for cars in the 20,000 to 25,000 market. Cars that are sophisticated, are attractive, have great performance, have great potential, handle well, and you dont have to take out a mortgage to buy. The market the have forced the car into is the same market of the 350z, the rx8, and (dont laugh) the mustang GT. Other cars in the same price range are as follows.. Wrx, Sti, audi A3, Evolution, rsx, new gti, new gli, and the list goes on... I think the styling IS an upgrade and I can see some remnants of the old 2g in alot of the shapes and lines from certain angles BUT they have strayed so far away from what the eclipse really was. A really nice, fun to drive, fast, reliable car with levels of trim for anyone. They sold the lower end non turbo cars that anyone with a little money and good credit could buy. They had a convertible in their lineup with two engine choices, and they had the gst and gsx models for the enthusiasts and they all sold well.
I think when you really focus on the basics it comes down to this. For $30,000 I would buy a 350Z or an rx8, If I were in the market for a sporty high end front wheel drive car I would buy the new Audi a3 with the 2.0l turbo motor, and if I were to buy a car that represents what the eclipse should be (awd, turbo, middleweight car) I would buy the wrx for $25,000.
To summarize, I think it looks decent, I think it has nice lines, I think its an upgrade for the 3G, and I totally and completely think it sucks. In todays market there isnt one redeeming quality about the new eclipse that would make me, even for one
second, want to own the 4g eclipse.
Sorry for the rant, I strongly despise what they have done to the eclipse since the 2G

 

[Shapingo]

Why is every 4gen eclipse topic exactly the same? It is almost like there is a basic outline for all of them.

1.Someone mentions 4gen on a DSM board
bunch of angry dsm'ers walk in

2.They call the car ugly
I like my 2g more but looks are subjective

3.They call it slow
the car is faster than any stock eclipse that was ever made before it
0-60 in 5.8 1/4mile 14.2 @ 101

(A girl down the street from me ran one after her BF bought her new tires pirelli p zero's and rota wheels and it ran a 14.6 @ 99 with a damn auto)

4.The 3.8 v6 only makes 263hp
every tuner on club4gen has dynoed over 240 to the wheels stock, meaning the car has to have more than 260 hp,(likely 270-280 but rated less then the evo) unless mitsubishi makes the most efficient drivetrains ever and we all know that isn't true

5. It is front wheel drive
most of the people that say that have front wheel drive dsms?!? yeah I think it should have been rear wheel drive, but all it's japanese competition is FWD also

6. needs awd
it already weighs 3600, awd would just kill its mpg and acceleration

7. No 4G63, so I'll never buy one
I guess some people will never buy another new car again, Evo 9 it the last car to have the 4g63 in it. Plus this is america people, the general public thinks any v6 is better than a 4cyl turbo because it is a bigger engine. How many times have you heard someone say wow it has a v6 or v8 so it must be faster than a 4cylinder.

The eclipse is a volume seller for mitsu, it can't alienate itself buy being a specialty car (turbo performance); the 3gen GT sold better than the turbo models of both previous models combined, so why would mitsu through away sales. I know people will mention Subaru's wrx and legacy gt as examples of mainstream sellers but they would never sell as well as a corolla or camry.

8. There is no GSX
AWD and a 4g63 would probably make the car cost more than the evo, and the evo is the flagship vehicle. Even if the engine was detuned that would take away from the evo being a speciality.

Besides, I bet if they did make a gsx version the people complaining wouldn't buy it anyway, it would be the 2g all over again (how many people here bought there gsx new?)

9. The DSM is the greatest car ever and can never be topped
I have 2 gsx's and there is an almost infinite list of improvements I could make for them. The dsm was/and still is a great car but some people here act like it is still 1995.

 

[tstkl]

do you have any idea how hard, and how much of a waste a single turboed v style engine would be? think of all the piping.. for exaust AND intake, it would just be a waste...name a sucessful v6 that wasnt tt'ed... (and by sucessful i mean a car that more than 10 people knew about...like everyone wants a vr4, but the cost is just too high...)

as for rwd, last time mitsu made something rwd that had performance was the starion, back in 89.... im sure the design of a completely new drivetrain from the ground up wouldnt be very cost effective... although i would like to see a rwd eclipse over a fwd...in my opinion the only thing we can complain about that would/could realistically change is this huge engine they slapped mivec on and got 263 hp out of.... but as others stated