Who is using a scm-6152e

[92awddsm]

Just as the title says. I am looking for feedback on this particular turbo, no need to say why not use "x" turbo. What is spool time on 2.0, 8:1 and comp 200's or hks 272's. What are your 1/4 mile time and mph. Im considering it but would like to hear actual experience. Thanks

 

[gasguzzler]

My friend's 1G 2.0L with stock cams and supporting hardware spools the SCM6152 to 20 psi at around 4,500 in 3rd.

 

[insanewayne]

Anyone else got some feedback on this Turbo? I have one on the way.

Thanks,

Wayne

 

[Dark_Horse]

Where were you actually able to find a 6152? Everywhere I tried said the T350 turbine was extremely backordered and they didn't know when/if they'd get another one.

 

[insanewayne]

Mine was a used package, got a real good deal.

SCM--6152E, Rebuilt 4000K ago
SBR 7cm2 Manifold, ported and drilled for 10mm studs.
Tial 46mm wastegate
2.5" Mild steel O2 flanged for Tial.

All for a good price to my door.

With the Oil lines etc. Good deal in my Opinion.

 

[JiggahMan]

Where were you actually able to find a 6152? Everywhere I tried said the T350 turbine was extremely backordered and they didn't know when/if they'd get another one.

What I heard is it's only 5 days backed up. I just ordered one from a local shop.

 

[insanewayne]

Please don't make this goto shit guys, I ressurected it because it's been awhile now and I figured more guys might be running them,

I also bought the setup I mentioned above, just wanted to hear what I should expect, so I have something to compare it to, and then I will also write a review.

 

[v2ner]

2.0L w/ 272s 27psi @ ~4500 RPMs 10.8
2.3L w/ 272s 27psi @ ~4300 RPMs 10.8

 

[v2ner]

Be careful w/ this turbo. It's unpredictable when it's gonna go. Just my experience. Good luck.

 

[insanewayne]

v2ner, could you please elaborate more on that?

Do you run an inline restrictor in yours?

Any other info and feedback is GREATLY appreciated.

How many Km's did you get out of it?

Thanks,

Wayne

 

[v2ner]

When we ran these turbos, I did not run one but the 2.3L did. Excellent turbo and very streetable in my opinion. Any more questions? ...Kms...never bothered to look.

 

[insanewayne]

By "unpredictable when it's going to go", do you mean like you won't really getting any warning signs when it's going to be garbage...or what.

So the "2.0L w/ 272s 27psi @ ~4500 RPMs 10.8
2.3L w/ 272s 27psi @ ~4300 RPMs 10.8"
are both with the 6152E, or just the stroker.

Was that on C-16?

And you never bothered to look....well how long did you use the turbo for, was it streeet use of track, a hole season?

Sorry, your the first person to actually reply with one, so it's nice to get some feedback.

Thanks for you time.

 

[v2ner]

Honestly, through my experiences, this turbo does not last very long. I used it for track and street because it was a DD for about a year. Both was with the SC-61 (T3 turbine style). This was why I chose the 35R. Basically the same turbo except one lasts longer. No problem, I'm here to help.

 

[nanokpsi]

I ran one for a while. 22psi by 4500 on a stock motor 2g with 264/272s. That is the generally accepted reponse of this turbo.

I'll say it again, the hotside is small. On my cammed 2g it took 27-28 psi to make 400whp on c16. I picked up about 4lb/min personally from ditching the hotside, but I switched to a .68 t4 with a p trim.

 

[insanewayne]

Uhhg, not what I'm wanting to hear....

Where you guys using a inline oil pressure restrictor?

It has 4000 km's on it, since the rebuild (seal, intake wheel, balancing) 10-15 runs at 30psi, and 15psi the rest of the time.... Either way I'm still feeling like it was a good deal.

I just rememeber reading that the PTE center sections coulnd't handle the oil pressure directly from the housing....like it's suppost to be....

Nanokpsi, what were your other mods at the time, and how long did you run the turbo for?

 

[nanokpsi]

Uhhg, not what I'm wanting to hear....

Where you guys using a inline oil pressure restrictor?

It has 4000 km's on it, since the rebuild (seal, intake wheel, balancing) 10-15 runs at 30psi, and 15psi the rest of the time.... Either way I'm still feeling like it was a good deal.

I just rememeber reading that the PTE center sections coulnd't handle the oil pressure directly from the housing....like it's suppost to be....

Nanokpsi, what were your other mods at the time, and how long did you run the turbo for?

I ran the turbo for 8 months or so. I then sold it to a buddy when I found my t67 for sale. The turbo is over a year old and runs just fine on his car. I always ran if from the housing with no restrictors or filters.

If you still have balance shafts I wouldn't worry about excessive oil pressure. Once they are removed and you start revving the motor harder you may look into porting the relief hole to lower pressure a bit. Just be sure you get the oil from the correct port on the filter housing. The wrong port will feed dirty oil and kill turbos fast. It sshould be easy to find with a quick search of the web, or road race's web site (probably on tuners as well).

Set up at the time was 3" exhaust, dejon fmic, dsmlink, hks 264/272s, stock 2g block and head, plenty of fuel.

 

[92awddsm]

I just rememeber reading that the PTE center sections coulnd't handle the oil pressure directly from the housing....like it's suppost to be....

I am still running my pte after a year and have had no problems what so ever. PTE told me to run the oil feed straight from the housing with no restriction but that was a nightmare. Spool time was slowed and it would blow smoke while boosting. I installed a .082" restictor on the oil inlet and then my problem was cured. Spool time was reduced by 4-500 rpm and no more smoking issues.

I originally ordered the 6152 but for some reason was shipped the 5252(60-1) instead. Unfortunately, it took 5 weeks for me to recieve the wrong turbo. I immediately called the vendor after it was delivered and was basically called a liar because they were sure it was a 6152, not a 5252 even though that was what was engraved in the compressor housing. I had to remove the compressor housing and take a pic of the compressor wheel while measuring it with calipers before the vendor would believe me. I was then told to send it back and wait another 5 weeks for the 6152. Well, I didnt have time for that so I just kept it. I know this part was a little off topic but it was just an explanation why I dont have the 6152.

 

[insanewayne]

hmm, I think I'l run the restrictor then....where can I find something like that, is it a standard part and a hardware or auto store? Thead specs?

 

[1SloColt]

I run a custom version of the scm61 on my colt. I run a bullseye housing machined for a p-trim turbine wheel. This setup is for bolt-on capability but with higher flow capacity on high boost. I initially ran the scm61 with PTE housing, which is a little bi*** housing BTW, and it received its oil feed from the filter housing. I don't run balance shafts which equals 100psi oil pressures under full load. This quickly toasted the centersection of the scm61 so I got bullseye to rebuild it. I now run an .080" restrictor inline with the oil feed and the turbo has been flawless since. The standard bearing cartridges do not like oil pressure over 60psi or they start pushing oil past the seals. I see 27psi of boost at 4500rpm as well on a completely stock 1990 longblock. All this in a car that weighs 2450lbs on mostly stock suspension = uncontrollable/unsafe. I truely can't make 3rd gear pulls on a 2 lane highway unless I take up both lanes, this is on a large BFG drag radial. Note to self: spend $$$ on suspension. The turbo loved 27psi BTW. It really came to life past 25psi so I can't wait for 30-32psi.

 

[Vanish70]

I run this turbo on my car. It's a built 2.0 8.5:1 compression w/ 272's and I see 22psi by 4,500rpm easy. The turbo has been on my car for probably around 12,000 miles and when bought it it had been freshly re-built. For 12,000 miles it has taken the abuse of high oil pressure from lack of balance shafts without any problems. It's not un-common for this thing to see 120psi of oil pressure, and it doesn't burn or blow a drop of oil, has zero shaft play, and spins perfectly free. It may help that I change my oil every 2,000 miles, but who knows.

I don't really like this turbo for street driving. It's not exactly a fun stoplight-to-stoplight turbo because it's fairly laggy. I've felt this turbo on a couple of 2.4 liter DSM's and it's QUITE fun on that motor, but I've never felt one on a 2.3 setup. This is the perfect budget turbo if you're after 500-600whp, but be prepared to run serious boost with it, because at lower boost levels (15-20psi) it's not nearly as efficient. So that means a serious fuel system and a sheet-metal intake manifold would really help things along as well.

 

[gSx_r1der]

I run this turbo on my car. It's a built 2.0 8.5:1 compression w/ 272's and I see 22psi by 4,500rpm easy. The turbo has been on my car for probably around 12,000 miles and when bought it it had been freshly re-built. For 12,000 miles it has taken the abuse of high oil pressure from lack of balance shafts without any problems. It's not un-common for this thing to see 120psi of oil pressure, and it doesn't burn or blow a drop of oil, has zero shaft play, and spins perfectly free. It may help that I change my oil every 2,000 miles, but who knows.

I don't really like this turbo for street driving. It's not exactly a fun stoplight-to-stoplight turbo because it's fairly laggy. I've felt this turbo on a couple of 2.4 liter DSM's and it's QUITE fun on that motor, but I've never felt one on a 2.3 setup. This is the perfect budget turbo if you're after 500-600whp, but be prepared to run serious boost with it, because at lower boost levels (15-20psi) it's not nearly as efficient. So that means a serious fuel system and a sheet-metal intake manifold would really help things along as well.

Well if your only daily driving and not boosting the hell out of this turbo from stoplight to stoplight how do you like it?? Right now I'm unhappy about my turbo being set a 19lbs and when I just want to cruise around the street I have to shift fast as hell cause the 16g is spooling up hella fast. My setup is very similar to yours minus my injectors and a built motor(although are compression ratio is the same). Let me know what you think. I ask only because I dont participate in the road racing community or the stoplight to stoplight racing, so I would only be getting on it for the track with race fuel and more boost.

 

[92awddsm]

Well if your only daily driving and not boosting the hell out of this turbo from stoplight to stoplight how do you like it?? Right now I'm unhappy about my turbo being set a 19lbs and when I just want to cruise around the street I have to shift fast as hell cause the 16g is spooling up hella fast. My setup is very similar to yours minus my injectors and a built motor(although are compression ratio is the same). Let me know what you think. I ask only because I dont participate in the road racing community or the stoplight to stoplight racing, so I would only be getting on it for the track with race fuel and more boost.

I think you over did your setup just to run the 16g. My setup might see 5-7 psi in normal dd situations but when the throttle is applied, the difference is amazing. If I could do it again, I wouldnt have ever wasted the $ on a 16g.

 

[gSx_r1der]

I think you over did your setup just to run the 16g. My setup might see 5-7 psi in normal dd situations but when the throttle is applied, the difference is amazing. If I could do it again, I wouldnt have ever wasted the $ on a 16g.

Understandably so, but I bought the car with a 16g on it. So I'm sure I wont be dissapointed when I purchase a turbo upgrade for my car. But untill I go to the track and see what I'm running I will stay with the 16g. I def plan on going with the scm61 soon, cause with my upgrades I'm not really impressed with my performance.

 

[Vanish70]

Well if your only daily driving and not boosting the hell out of this turbo from stoplight to stoplight how do you like it?? Right now I'm unhappy about my turbo being set a 19lbs and when I just want to cruise around the street I have to shift fast as hell cause the 16g is spooling up hella fast. My setup is very similar to yours minus my injectors and a built motor(although are compression ratio is the same). Let me know what you think. I ask only because I dont participate in the road racing community or the stoplight to stoplight racing, so I would only be getting on it for the track with race fuel and more boost.

It's nice for cruising I suppose. I've had 16g's in the past and it behaves nothing like that. You have to put serious effort into it if you want to boost, and it totally changes the powerband. I find myself driving around shifting at 4,000rpm everywhere instead of 3,000rpm like when I had smaller turbos. The car really doesn't start to get moving until you get it over 4,000rpm, and it sort of sucks when you're going up hills or trying to shoot the curves on a windy road, but for drag racing it works well as long as you have the ability to rev a LOT higher than stock. If you can only rev to 7,000 or 7,500rpm I wouldn't recommend this turbo at all. I rev to 8,200rpm and it still tends to lag in-between shifts. I'd say 8,500rpm is the bare minimum on a turbo like this unless you're running a stroker.

 

[insanewayne]

Can one of you guys who have owned the SCM-6152E help me out here PLEASE.

Thanks,

Wayne