Where to get 180 thermostat?

[chicagoavenger]

I did some searching but didn't really find a answer, to those that are running a 180 degree thermostat where did you get yours at? Thanks

 

[SlowSpyder]

http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com/maintengine.shtml

 

[Attack Eagle]

autozone failsafe.

cause I can change it in 10 minutes if it takes a poop

 

[Defiant]

And why do you imagine it might be a good idea to wander from a factory spec thermostat?

 

[Project ES]

And why do you imagine it might be a good idea to wander from a factory spec thermostat?

Wasnt it posted somewhere on here that our engines run best around 190*? I have a 190* thermostat and it warms up to a constant 200*, so wouldnt a 180* stop around 190*?

 

[thegreatms]

so wouldnt a 180* stop around 190*?

Not necessarily. Sarcasm on why don't you take off your thermostat completely. Then your car will never heat up at all, engines love to be run cold! Sarcasm off

Seriously, the thermo is in there to help your engine get up to temp quickly. With one set too low your engine will just take a little longer to get to operating temp. A cold engine can hurt your performance as much as a hot one. If yours is getting too hot then look into radiator, fans, ducting, water wetter, the things that actually heat remove the heat. The thermo controls when you start removing heat, not how much you can remove.

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

Actually if you run no thermostat your car will overheat due to the fact that the coolant will be flowing so fast it wont be able to disappate heat...Anywho...I have a lot of friends who work at dealerships down south (Texas, Arizona) and they have had to change thermostat's to lower temp one's due to the high heat weather to keep cars from getting too hot. A 180 degree one shouldn't hurt. Now if you go for the 162 degree one then I would have to say that's to much but 10 degree's won't affect it that one.

 

[chicagoavenger]

And why do you imagine it might be a good idea to wander from a factory spec thermostat?

I would like some cooler temps and from what I have read our cars run great with the 180 and doesn't go into warm up mode. Its 100 degrees here in NM so the cars tends to run very hot...Then in the winter I can just go with the stock one if its to cold. She runs anywhere from the 208F-215F with the stock one. And yes I have done all regular maintenance on it. She doesn't boil over but just runs hot and that without the ac and both fans rewired. School me if this is a bad idea.


Attackeagle So I can get one at autozone? Do I ask for the 180? If not I will order one from where Slowspyder said. Thanks

 

[93ESTalon]

A cold engine can hurt your performance as much as a hot one.

Not true. You can get more power out of a cold engine, but a hot engine will be more efficient (you'll get better gas milage and a cleaner combustion). Though you don't need to worry about gaining a little more power unless your at the track. In which case you can simply turn the car off in the staging lanes.

Actually if you run no thermostat your car will overheat due to the fact that the coolant will be flowing so fast it wont be able to disappate heat

Well I was running with no thermostat (didn't know it at the time ) when I put my 6-bolt in and it never got above half on the stock gauge and the fan hardly ever came on. Although it was in October. I realized something was wrong though when I was cruising at 60mph or faster. I had no heat.

What you said is True though. Although this problem is more common among V8's and large motors in general not to say it couldn't cause our motors to over heat. I'm sure there's plenty of people on here that have had over-heating problems because they were running with no thermostat. Anyway. To answer the original question. You can get one at Napa, Autozone....just about anywhere. They probably don't carry them in stock but can order you one. I don't see a problem running the 190*. Mine works fine.

Tyler

 

[EclipseRacing99]

the stock thermostats from mitsubishi are 180*F. i just bought one the other day. it says on it 82* celcius which is right at 180*F

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

We carry them here at NAPA so most all the other one's should carry them too.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

the stock thermostats from mitsubishi are 180*F. i just bought one the other day. it says on it 82* celcius which is right at 180*F

They must've changed them because they are supposed to open at 195 per the factory manual, for a 2g that is.

 

[EclipseRacing99]

They must've changed them because they are supposed to open at 195 per the factory manual, for a 2g that is.

yea i remember the last one i bought from mitsu was a 195* thermostat. i dunno if they changed them or what. but the parts manager told me that was the only one they had listed for a 2g.

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

It's the same for the 1g. Our little computer thingy says 192-195 is stock.

 

[Strm Trpr]

Our T-Stats start to open at 180* and are fully open at 195*.

 

[chicagoavenger]

Well I went and got one at autozone I got the 180 and logs are showing temps between 195-201F now. Before they where 212-219F with the 190. Foe some reason I can see the coolant flowing really good with the 180 as with the 190 I had in there(was only a week old) the coolant didn't seem to flow as much. My car seems to run better and the inside of my cabin doesn't feel like I'm in a oven cooking anymore. Thanks all for the help and info.

 

[Defiant]

I would like some cooler temps and from what I have read our cars run great with the 180 and doesn't go into warm up mode. Its 100 degrees here in NM so the cars tends to run very hot...Then in the winter I can just go with the stock one if its to cold. She runs anywhere from the 208F-215F with the stock one. And yes I have done all regular maintenance on it. She doesn't boil over but just runs hot and that without the ac and both fans rewired. School me if this is a bad idea.

If your engine is running hot, a cooler thermostat shouldn't affect it. Once a thermostat opens, it's up to the radiator to reject heat. The 30°F temperature difference between human comfort at 70° and Life in Hell at 100° is immaterial to a functional radiator getting rid of engine heat. Provided the water pump, water passages and radiator are in good shape, the differential between engine and ambient should still be more than plenty even in the hottest of atmospheric temperatures.

 

[chicagoavenger]

So then why is mine running 10 degrees cooler with the 180 then the 190? Unless my brand new 190 was not functioning properly.

 

[dsm-onster]

... I know this involves perhaps "ghetto rigging", but I wired my fans so that they are always on when the ignition is on. I've noticed that when a 195* t-stat is installed, the engine operates at ~195*, and when 180* t-stat is installed it operates at ~180*, and when a 160* t-stat is installed (i have dsmlink to keep her in closed loop) it operates at ~160. When I had the fans operating normally, the coolant tem would be arou 10-15* higher that the t-stat rating. I was able to lean out my AFR from 10:7 to 11.6:1 (per my LM-1) by running a cold t-stat. or i'm SURE i could have raised my timing 1* across the board.

EDIT: i did get about 1-2 mpg worse with the cold t-stat even when leaning out to 11.6:1

 

[chicagoavenger]

When I had my 195 it operated at 210-220 with both fans on, with no fans on then 230+ and climbing. With the 180 I run around 195-199 with the fans on, I haven't tried without but I assume it would shoot up in the 230+ mark.

 

[danielbui]

1G thermostats are rated @ 195 deg F and the 2G thermostats are rated @ 180 deg F. so 2g guys when you see 195 T-stat ratings that is directed towards 1g cars and visa versa for 1g guys seeing 180 T-stat ratings.

my stock T-stat temp was 180. after putting on the FMIC my temps sky rocketed due to the 100 deg weather. did a flush, changed the fans, and put a 170 deg T-stat in and now i can drive for a few hours without worrying about blowing a head gasket due to the astronomical temps. no problems nor difficulties in the morning going to work.

 

[turbodsm18]

I have run a 170 and never had a problem with heat but thats also a 2g turbo.

 

[4G63 For Me]

Actually if you run no thermostat your car will overheat due to the fact that the coolant will be flowing so fast it wont be able to disappate heat...

I'm running without a thermostat and my car doesn't overheat. Not that I recommend it (it is there for a reason), but false information is just that.

 

[kazzam]

the ecu or someother mechanism controls when the radiotor fans comeon... so by removing the thermostat and running the car without it, it will get up to temp and stay there because the fans are still gonna turn on at the same time as they did before.
If, however, it is cold enough outside(lower then 70F) then yes, your car will not warm up if you are diving on the highway where there is some wind through the radiator. Here in fl, i dont' run with the thormostat because of the little margin of safety i'll get in case of failure. It takes a bit longer for the car to warm up, but after that it stays at it's set temp of whatever the stock is. Only when its cold in the winter that my car doesn't warm up. Thats when i put the sucker back in. If you car is overheatng and you have a spal fan or someother upgrade fan, then its the fan's fault. WHy? Because the stock fans are awesome. They have hi and low modes with diff repleys to switch between them. Ever wonder why there are 4 wires going to the stock fans and not just 2?
I hope this helps someone

 

[95blackGsTurbo]

I'm running without a thermostat and my car doesn't overheat. Not that I recommend it (it is there for a reason), but false information is just that.

I highly doubt the teacher's at school's like UTI and Wyotech aren't wrong when they say running no thermostat will overheat your car. It even says it word for word in my text book. It might not do it under all circumstances but when you get coolant flowing that fast without any restriction it's not going to be able to disapate heat as well therefore never cooling it down enough. It's not false information. You just aren't very smart for doing it and sooner or later it will bite you in the ass.