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Wheel lock key broke, broken, lost, etc. [Merged 8-6] stud nut lug key

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Interesting lugs, those are a good design. The head kind of looks like a McGuard keyway, but I've not seen one of theirs with only three petals.

From what I see, you might try something like the Sears bolt-outs on the inner edges of the keyway. Next, an air chisel and a punch-tip. After that, a nut welded on the lug (plug-welded on the inside of the nut).

And try another tire shop. For someone, it won't be any challenge at all.
 
I have worked at a few different tire shops and have taken off a bunch of locking lugs but none that are as close to the wheel as yours. I think that I would try to have someone weld a nut onto the top of that one as mentioned above, I think that would be your best bet of not ruining the rim. Just to let you know eveytime I removed locking lugs we would warn the people that we might ruin their rims but 99% of the time they would be just fine. If you can't find anyone to weld a lugnut on top of yours I wold try the air chizle on those one's off. Good Luck!
 
DevilSperm said:
yes i know...those things fit tight on the lug and make a little groove into to pull it off....i lost my key once and thats how i got mine off


It's not only that the lug is round on the outside, it's that it fits VERY tightly in the lug hole. There is like *paper* thin space around the outside of the lug. I dont think I could get any kind of socket on the lock without damaging the wheel.

I could easily get the locks off, there are many methods, but my concern here is that I have to sell these wheels. There seem to be not so many options remaining for me that won't damage the wheel.

-Adam
 
As a side note, I was doing some thinking while at work and was wondering if this might work -

Either taking the idea of trying a bolt-out on the inside of the lock, or maybe for better grip, finding a socket that fits in the lock-holes and spins freely. Then I heat the hex end of the socket with my torch and give it a few whacks to make it out of round. Maybe with the right touch I can even shape it triangularly. Then I could put it in the lock hole and try and turn it out.

The only problem with that idea as I see it is that the socket that will fit in that lock pattern will be like a 8mm or maybe less.. probably going to end up as a 1/4 drive, and that thing will just strip when I try to put 80ft/lbs of pressure or more to turn the lug. :(

We'll see, I shall try it when I get up.

If that doesn't work, I'll do the welded nut idea. The only problem is that the car DOESN'T run, and I don't have a welder. I'm going to have to beg and plead all my local car lists till I find someone willing to come out to me. I'd even pay like $50 for this kind of job.. it's worth it to save the $700 worth of rims/tires.
 
Yea I think the best idea would be to weld the nut on top, it seems like that would be the only way without ruining the wheels. Good luck, and im sure if you pay enough somebody will come out!
 
Just get a rubber mallet, and a socket that almost fits on the lock nut but not quite, and hammer that socket onto the bolt all the way in and crank on that socket with a torge wrench.

Thats how they got mine off anyway, and it was round too!
 
drill out the center and jam a huge star bit into it. or goto advance auto/autozone, any other retail auto store and look for similar lugs and buy the pack with the key. they look like they locking lugs we sell at advance.
 
i had almost the exact same locks on my old wheels. i used allenwrenches and a an adjustable locking wrench...
 
You could always do what I did in a similar situation;


Take a 1 size too small socket (one you dont' care about) and Hammer the CRAP outta it on the lugnut. Then take a breaker bar and pop it off..

It SHOULD come off. though both socket and lugnut are junk after this..
 
Just for everyone coming up with the usual methods, without having looked at the picture (and they're inevitably hardened, or that pattern wouldn't take a key. So drilling's out.):
 

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this is alotta work but its how i got mine off, if you have a welder, just tack a socket onto the locked lug nut and take it out w/ a impact wrench works like a charm
 
I dont really know how you would get them out. I picked up my car yesterday so after reading this i went to check... Well.. I have stripping screw heads/ rusted scre heads on my wheels.... great. I guess thats nothing compared to your problem though, good luck.
 
Hopefully one of the above suggestions worked. If not, try taking a grinder to the rear of the stud and grind the head off. You will then need to drill out part of the stud 1/2 inch or so to give the stud room to collapes. Then just use a punch to drive the stud out. Of course, that means you'll have to buy 4 new studs.
 
I used to work in a machine shop, I could make a key like that in a half hour, = 45$. Find a local machine shop to cut one out for ya! :thumb:
 
This has probably been mentioned before, but a friend of mine needed to do something similar. Took his car to a muffler shop and the guy welded a bolt to the lug and twisted it right out. No damage to the rims what-so-ever.
 
Go buy some Cobalt drill bits and drill thatt middle section out and then jam like a rectangular piece of metal in there like the end of a crowbar, stick some vice grips on it and twist it off.
 
I just went to a tire place to get off my wheel lock off but when I go there to get it off they tell me that the wheel lock is cross threaded and that they have to break the stud to get it off and while doing that they may crack the rim is there anyway I can brake the stud myself without having to go to that tire place and cracking the rim.
 
Why couldn't they just break the lock....(drill it out) they may brake the stud in the process but if they arent retards they shouldnt crack the rim...Previous owner did not have the lug nut lock and i had to have a shop brake off the locks and replace them with regular lugs i got from the dealer..no damage at all was done to the weak stock gsx rims (97-99)
 
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