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I don't think traction is less at the track in general. Depending on which track you go to they may use a powder type of oil dry and sometimes you get sand or dust blown onto the track but for the most part there should be much more traction. Think about how many cars have put down large amounts of rubber in those lanes and the fact you can do a burnout. They also clean up anything that another car spills for safty reasons. You have none of that on the street unless in extreme cases. Also, most people launch their cars harder at the track.
 
I don't think traction is less at the track in general. Depending on which track you go to they may use a powder type of oil dry and sometimes you get sand or dust blown onto the track but for the most part there should be much more traction. Think about how many cars have put down large amounts of rubber in those lanes and the fact you can do a burnout. They also clean up anything that another car spills for safty reasons. You have none of that on the street unless in extreme cases. Also, most people launch their cars harder at the track.

Well go to the track in a fwd & you may change your mind ;) All that rubber on the track just gives us fwder's something else to burn off. I get massive wheel hop at the track in first & second & even when feathering it all the way though the first 2 gears I would always get massive hop around 5000-6000 rpms in 2nd & have to get right off it. I have never wheel hopped on the street, traction isn't hard to control in 1st & I'm on the edge of traction all the way though 2nd but never breaks completely lose on the street unlike the track. Unless their using alot of traction compound, traction is much much worse at a track compared to the street.

Just to compared when I went to the track, I had very unfavourable conditions but just wanted to get some runs in on my evoIII. Most I could run was 18 psi & like I said traction was horrible, unlike the street but I ran a 13.9, if it was under ideal conditions I don't see much trouble hitting a mid to low 13. I did trap over 106 mph & there was defently more in it on pump if I was running properly(more boost, had my dual stage EBC back, good tires, good tune, etc). Guys with this mph were hitting low 13's & high 12's in awd cars or rwd with slicks. This was also on 18" rims with 40 series tires, which defently doesn't help things.
 
It seems to me that i burn more tire on street. I've ran a 2.0 60ft on track with my street tires without much wheel hop. I don't think i can do that on street
 
wheel hop means your car is starting to get tracton then loosing it, starting to get traction then loosing it and so on. Your suspention is not set up correctly either. If you couldn't get traction at all you wouldn't wheel hop, just spin.
 
Ok my goal is to hit 13 flat with my car, but I really don't know which turbo to go with. I already hit a 14.2 with a fuel cut with my car so i know i can go 13's. At first I was thinking the 20g with TD06H, but I think its too much for me. However, I do want to have a little space to hit 12's if I ever would like bump up the boost. Please help me choose a turbo, and please not the evo 3. I need something bigger than that.
I'm not sure why you're ruling out the Evo3 but saying the 20g is too much? You can hit a 13 flat with a 16g if you have the right supporting mods and can drive the car. In a FWD it might be tough on street tires, but it's possible. If you're simply trying to over-compensate with a bigger turbo so that you won't need slicks, suspension upgrades, or race gas, then you're going about this the wrong way. You don't even know if you can drive the car good enough to achieve the times you want, even though the car might be capable.

Why not set a horsepower goal instead of a timeslip goal? That takes your driving skills out of the equation. This would allow you to choose the right turbo (which in my opinion would be a Evo3 16g) and will leave you some cash to upgrade the other pieces of the puzzle. If you can't hit a 13 flat on a an Evo3, you need to practice driving, tune the car better, or get the right supporting mods (for a FWD), not over-compensate with a bigger turbo than is necessary. Too many people are doing that these days.
 
I was thinking getting front struts because the driver side has oil around it. Remember guys im automatic so I really don't need much practice on an auto other than stalling it right. I only started to get a bit of wheel hop at the end of first gear.One of my main reasons are that i don't want to be doing this on race gas. Thanks everyone I am leaning closer to a 50trim.
 
I'm not sure why you're ruling out the Evo3 but saying the 20g is too much? You can hit a 13 flat with a 16g if you have the right supporting mods and can drive the car. In a FWD it might be tough on street tires, but it's possible. If you're simply trying to over-compensate with a bigger turbo so that you won't need slicks, suspension upgrades, or race gas, then you're going about this the wrong way. You don't even know if you can drive the car good enough to achieve the times you want, even though the car might be capable.

Why not set a horsepower goal instead of a timeslip goal? That takes your driving skills out of the equation. This would allow you to choose the right turbo (which in my opinion would be a Evo3 16g) and will leave you some cash to upgrade the other pieces of the puzzle. If you can't hit a 13 flat on a an Evo3, you need to practice driving, tune the car better, or get the right supporting mods (for a FWD), not over-compensate with a bigger turbo than is necessary. Too many people are doing that these days.

Almost 100% of people are doing that these days. I've seen it where I work, someone comes in and buys their first bike and its a 1000cc crotch rocket and they want headers, a power commander, different gear ratio sprockets (for more power) start asking about high compression pistons, and cams, etc before they even sit on it yet or get it out the door. Its just a sword fight/I have the biggest #&@* thing. Look at what buschur and some of the other guys did back in the day before the newest 50 trim or whatever. They used what was available and would have killed to have the convienent pre packaged power adders that we take for granted every day. They got more from a 16g than most guys here will ever get from a 35r etc. Its mostly the tune and the driving skills that will get you your 1/4 mile time.:dsm:
 
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