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The meth made so much power the tranny let loose:(

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turboglenn

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Nov 5, 2007
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Well, tonight i was going for thai food and on the way there and back i was running the wide band and hahd a fuel trim knob setup to play with the fuel curve. I was at 20psi on pump gas + meth (80% to 20% water) with an M10 nozzle. I started off in third after baselining my AFR's and dialing 6% out in the entire map via the trim knob. I was at 20psi, 16* timing and 12.2:! AFR and pulling harder than ever in third with NO KNOCK and then boom! The tranny let loose, third and fourth are gone. I still have the remaining gears, but now i need a trans and FAST!!

But the point being, i'm not knocking on 12.2:1 AFR with a meth nozzle at 80/20 and only 16* timing (timing pulled to 16 on purpose I could have ran more easily)

In a way this is good, but overall it sucks, i'm starting to extract the tune to make big power now that i'm learning i just hapen to need a transmission ...it seems like nothing is going to let me finish this tune :LOL:(
 
Nahk, the diff is good, tested it last night,plus i have 1st, 2nd 5th and reverse that i can use. I wish to hell Jack from jacks transmissions took calls on monday. I'm ready to drive there, buy a tranny, come home nad put it in. Everything is lined up, i got the cash, i need a tranny!

I sure as hell don't want to get a bone yard unit, even with a warranty
 
womp womp, all that nawz lucky you didnt blow the welds on the intake.:rocks:
and my floorboards would have flown out LOL

hahah fast and furry baby fast and furry!

And yea i should correct myself, the meth didn't make the power, the meth LET me make the power with out knocking
 
Yea, but no one has one, at least not Jack' and that's the only erson close enough to get me one in time. I emailed team rip as well, hopefully some one comes through. Shep trannies are a bit too high but i even emailed them, i just need a tranny period, i gues i'll be babying a junkyard unit if no one has one in stock. But at least that way i can afford to save and have my ultimate tranny build from my spare core!
 
Surprised that it let go at that power level...Ohh well theres no better excuse for an upgrade :)

EXACTLY!!!!!!!! Now i've got a TRE stage 2 with quaiffe LSD on it's way. I should have it by the end of the week (i hoppe) , just in time to install and get to work on tuesday morning on the 19th for my first day at the postal traiing center.

I didn't want to have to spend that kinda cash, but it was either a new OEM or a TRE modified rebuild, and i drove a TRE in my friends car about an hour ago, 9k RPM shifts all day long like i was just cruising in town..no effort at all . I can't wait to get mine. I might drive there and get it instead of waiting on the delivery truck to bring it.
 
Fwd trannys seem to not hold up well during pulls. I have seen alot fail on the highway at 80+ mph. I always have problems braking shit forks myself.
 
I've seen them go a lot from wheel hop, but never just pulling in the higher gears. But i haven't broken that many to begin with so my control group is rather small. The Team RIP trans is supposed to hold good and i drove an AWD with teh sae tranny i'm getting tonight and the shifting was so beautifull it was insane. I launched at 6500, went through 1st,2nd and hit 3rd only partially lifting in each gear and not the slightest hint of a grind or notchyness with a stock shifter cut in half with all stock bushings. He has good bushings, he's just never put them in.

The car on a 100shot put down 585hp and does right around 470 without it. ( i can get the dyno sheets to prove if needed) but that's not teh topic. The topic is that the tranny i got coming should net me 11's this year with close ratios and a quaiffe LSD! This thing should be well worth every penny i'm spending on it though.

BUT MOST OF ALL, it should let me finish myt tune in search of 400 hp on pump gas + meth
 
uhm a lot LOL No seriously though, just a tad under 3k for a built trans with quaiffe diff. I got some extras for free for helping him a LONG time ago get motorcycle parts for his dad, so he kinda re-payed a favor i did for him years ago (but i never asked him too, just told him who i was)

I drove one of his trans last night and WOW, if my car shifts like that I'm in the 11's all day long this season!!!!!!!! One wheel wonders all through 2nd on slicks should dissapear with the quaiffe, and not missing shifts or having to granny shift will surely net me the E.T.'s i'm after, i shouldn't even ahve to change boost settings, i ran 12.08x @ 117 mph on 19psi last time i was out at the track. (on race gas with high timing though)
 
Glenn, you were supposed to pm me and keep me updated!!? :)

I see you went from an m7 to m10 nozzle. See more flow is all you needed. :p

Good work. When I blow apart my tranny, I know my tune is about right, too ;) .
 
Nahk, the diff is good, tested it last night,plus i have 1st, 2nd 5th and reverse that i can use. I wish to hell Jack from jacks transmissions took calls on monday. I'm ready to drive there, buy a tranny, come home nad put it in. Everything is lined up, i got the cash, i need a tranny!

I sure as hell don't want to get a bone yard unit, even with a warranty

HAHA good luck getting a hold of Jack over the phone. Even with a cell number you can never get a hold of him LOL. Best bet is to email. Then you MIGHT get a reply within 3 days. Man needs a secretary or something.
 
HAHA good luck getting a hold of Jack over the phone. Even with a cell number you can never get a hold of him LOL. Best bet is to email. Then you MIGHT get a reply within 3 days. Man needs a secretary or something.

LOL, he does. Only way I get ahold of him is drive to his shop. They are so overwhelmed with work its amazing. I guess when you do good work and start making a good product you have to expect it.
 
Glenn, you were supposed to pm me and keep me updated!!? :)

I see you went from an m7 to m10 nozzle. See more flow is all you needed. :p

Good work. When I blow apart my tranny, I know my tune is about right, too ;) .

Sorry it all happened on a run for thai food a few hours after upgrading nozzles, i was just leaning it out and watching for knock and there was none. You were totally dead on with the bigger nozzle. She was pulling so hard i was about to take another lap around the block and then the trans let loose when i tried a low rpm third gear roll on..as soon as the wastegate started to open and the power came on i got to feel about 5-700RPM's worth of pure joy and BOOM, no more tranny.

Jay, i got the tranny taken care of!

I have a Team RIP stage 2 with a Quaiffe LSD coming 2nd day air (since i couldn't drive to pick it up after paying with paypal..just a policy of his and i understand why) But anyway, he says it should be here thursday if he gets it shipped today. The tranny is done, he's just waiting on the LSD diff so he can slap it together and ship it!

I know i mentioned all this in some other posts, so i hope it isn't getting annoying, just trying to update where everyone is asking. Also, yesterday i got to do multiple launches through 4th gear pulls on a 450+ AWD that has teh same tranny im getting in it and MY GOD was that thing the smoothest shifting tranny i've ever seen. I've driven jacks and sheps basic rebuilds and they were nice, but this thing is like a buttered honda shifter, Smoooooth! And that was with a stock shifter cut in half and re-welded to be 4 inches tall, no bushiings in any of it and it would click into every gear with no efffort at all at 9k RPM. On my past drag strip data logs my best shifts are 3/10ths of a second and when i miss a gear it's over 1 second to get back in gear (which is killing my 1/4 mile times). We were pulling logs last night while i was launching and the shift times are down to 2/10ths and less to complete a shift and i didn't even have to concentrate on it, just click, next gear, wide open and hang on. And man is spinning all 4 tires through 2 gears fun as hell on a 3400 lb 99 GSX :D <---that was the look on my face LOL
 
Yep, that's what Jon at TRE said, run real fluid no synchroshift or anythign, just plain ld mitsu tranny fluid. I upgraded to 2 day air. Lets just pray it gets here before the weekend
 
Ah! it is such a sweet thing to see a very good tuner with a "trick"! Get to the track. Give us an official weight.

BTW, you still suck at shifting! Our awd is much better. . . It's an automatic;)
 
Ah! it is such a sweet thing to see a very good tuner with a "trick"! Get to the track. Give us an official weight.

BTW, you still suck at shifting! Our awd is much better. . . It's an automatic;)

For drag i would prefer a built auto, but when i first got into DSM's the autos were only able to take 300-350horses and that was it, I wanted auto so the boost never gets let off and the shifts would be instant.

What "trick" are you talkin about? I'm confsed on that one, i even read back through the thread LOL

I've never had my car weighed at the track either and teh 3400lb car i talked about is my friends and i was just guessing weights, but launching it and driving it hard on that trans was great!

I"ll be at the track to get kicked off for running 11's with no cage, that's been my goal from the start 10 years ago. I just took a vacation from it for a while(~4 years). Now i'm taking it seriously again. but still want to keep the car DD.

My Quaife came in late today so my trans ships in the morning (i just got an email on it) Coming 2nd day Via Fed-Ex (hopefully they ship fast) I'll have 2 days to get it tunesand fully test how far i can push teh alcohol on pump gas before i start working LONG hours.

The test with no FMIC will have to be off a few more weeks now, I've got the ipes for it designed, but won't have the time to get them finished till the weekend after next.
 
sounds awesome!

I will have to upgrade to one of these units in the spring or summer.. depends when i break my stock one, i should be good for around 450-500awhp this spring in my 1g awd, and i dont think my stock transmission is going to hold out! But first time it breaks i will upgrade the entire drive line.

I bet its WELL worth the cash! I too will be running an water/meth kit, tuning with AEM. I would like high 300's on pump (94) and close to 500 with a drip of C16 and water/meth injection, my tuner specializes in AEM and water/meth injection, so i doubt there will be any issues, i cant wait. So far im liking the DSM, never working on them before, theres alot of different things about them to what im used to with my honda!

Im just hoping for a 11.49 or faster, and 125-130mph. We will see.

As far as your spinning 1st and 2nd on slicks without the LSD, i bet you will have the same problem LSD helps more with axle life then traction, you would be amazed.

You probably need bigger slicks and/or a lower tire pressure, i cut 1.6 60ft's all day long on a open diff with my honda, although i know its a completely different animal.

Have fun!
 
I actually went to too big of a slick, 26x9.5x15 and it started bogging third gear. I smoke the left front or right front depending on teh lane all the way through 2nd, i actually see smoke coming off it. I think once they are both hookinjg evenly i'll be seeing a lot better 1/4 mile times. Plus just shifting alone is a vast improvemen in times when you can be faster at it as well

This year i'm going back to 24x9x15 slicks so teh gap between third and 2nd isn't so boggy. But my new trans has new ratios so they are closer now anyway. We will have to wait on warm weather and find out first hand. Bench racing really proves nothing :LOL
 
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