The $169 Kinetic 16G Turbo (yet another eBay Chinese turbo).

[kottyking]

Hey nicks why dont you buy one of these turbos, head on over to my house, and we can talk over a nice cup of coffee.

 

[Nicks2319]

Good for them. They're creating more business for themselves.

Well obviously. But the point of threads like these and this website is to point out misinformation and give people good info on these cars. If you think that tapping from the OFH is a bad idea then I would love to hear more info about it from you, because you seem to know what you're talking about.

Hey nicks why dont you buy one of these turbos, head on over to my house, and we can talk over a nice cup of coffee.

Ha, I personally wouldn't buy one of the ebay turbos. I, like you, don't really trust them. But I feel like I need to know more information about them before I go on bashing them. And I'm not really a coffee person, more of an energy drink dood

 

[kottyking]

fair enough.

 

[GsxEcutioner]

those gaskets in the kit look like j@ck.........

 

[JusMX141]

Well obviously. But the point of threads like these and this website is to point out misinformation and give people good info on these cars. If you think that tapping from the OFH is a bad idea then I would love to hear more info about it from you, because you seem to know what you're talking about.

Nothing I've said is misinformation. In fact, I'd like to know why you think supplying oil from the filter housing is a good idea.



Here are some interesting facts / points:

- TD05H Mitsu turbos on factory 1G's are proven more reliable than T25's on factory 2G's. Where do the TD05H's get their oil supply?

- The 1G TD05H turbos have a restrictor built into the oil supply hole in the CHRA AND the turbo end of the banjo fitting on the 1G hard metal oil supply line (from the head) also has a restrictor in it. Not only is a TD05H supplied from the head on these cars, but it's also restricted....so why is supplying one of these turbos with more pressure and no restrictor a good choice?

- Shops preach that you absolutely must supply Garrett T3 journal-bearing turbos from the filter housing, and as a result companies had to develop the stagger-gap turbine seals to combat the oil burning. All the while there are guys running T3 turbos from the head with no reliability problems at all.

- Call me crazy, but I swear the oil supply on Evo VIII and IX turbos comes from the head...meaning Mitsu abandoned the idea of supplying the oil from the filter housing for the newest generation of 4G63's.

Personally I don't see why anyone would want to use the oil filter housing as a oil source for their turbo when the head obviously does a fine job.

What you need to do is read and understand the oil pressure requirements for whatever turbo you're running, and base your oil supply source / restriction on what the manufacturer recommends. If the manufacturer states never to exceed 60psi of oil pressure, then don't bother running the oil supply to the filter housing or you will be putting alot of unwanted stress on the journal bearings and seals at the point in which the turbo is operating under the greatest load.

I personally wouldn't buy one of the ebay turbos. I, like you, don't really trust them. But I feel like I need to know more information about them before I go on bashing them.

Again, I urge you to read the entire first page of this thread. I explain, in detail what makes them tick and why they fail. I'm far from an expert, but I believe I have figured out what the big problems with these turbos may be.

This, of course, doesn't speak for the poor efficiency of the eBay turbos. In any ad for one of these junkers on eBay, the turbo is specifically labeled an "Evo III 16G" and is supposedly rated at 38 lb/min, yet the compressor wheel of the eBay turbo is not only heavier than the MHI Evo III, but it's heavier than the standard Big 16G compressor as well. This translates into more lag and less top RPM speed acheived. How is it possible that the eBay turbo can even bear the name Evo III? That's like someone building a Mustang GT clone and putting a Moped engine under the hood, then telling you it's just as fast as a real GT.

 

[Rob10_99]

Oh gawd my brain hurts after reading only the first page, stay away from those things.

 

[Afroclipse]

Why is there always a die hard ebay turbo hater everytime I read a thread like this, I have to say it again its almost like its their job. I'm King Kotty ebay turbo basher. "what? who goes there?ebay lover? here I come to smite thee" There is always one and no matter how much info you give they still won't stop and will follow thread till they are sure its dead.

 

[Defiant]

You kids all go play outside, now.