t04b(v-trim) Bolt on Discussion

[1029TSG]

That was fast. Cory from Chesterfield, VA just bought one. Anyone other than Matt interested in the last one?

 

[ryu]

will this turbo bolt on to a 91 auto? thanks.

 

[1029TSG]

Although I've never owned a 1st Gen Automatic, it should bolt right up. However, I would suggest porting the manifold opening since it is much smaller than our inlet.

 

[ryu]

Although I've never owned a 1st Gen Automatic, it should bolt right up. However, I would suggest porting the manifold opening since it is much smaller than our inlet.

oops. for got to tell ya. ill probebly be going w/sbr cast. sweet. screw the 16g. cant wait till january.thanks

 

[1993eclipseGS]

If you want after you install it and "test" it, write a little review for the turbo on there website, that would be so

I will definatly give alot of feedback on everything I ordered. This way customers that were undecided like I was, Will maybe be able to make their decision alittle bit easier.

 

[1029TSG]

They are both spoken for, thanks for your support. We are offering $50 off on either of our T04E complete turbos for DSM Tuner members. Please call me directly for this special pricing.

 

[dragrush]

How long is your H3 on sale for? I plan on getting one real soon

 

[clipise]

what housing would be the best to get, the Mitsubishi, T3, or T4?

 

[1029TSG]

I just took the H-3 off sale yesterday. We still have a few more in stock and I can still honor the $50 off for Tuner members.

You'll have to order the Mitsubishi inlet unless you want to change your manifold.

 

[ETK-kAos]

I just ordered all of my stuff today, Cant wait until it comes

I thought you were selling everything off your car to build up a different car?

 

[madaba]

i just got mine last friday, but waiting on some other parts to arrive before i start installing her. bullseye has excellent customer service and david is very friendly and easy to talk to

 

[nazthug]

everybody that gets one of these, please keep us updated on how things go and how it turns out and how u like it


Im leaning toward the slightly more efficient t3/04b with the H3 wheel

Hey bullseye, is the h3 wheel really worth the $130 over the v trim? for a good powerful street turbo

 

[1029TSG]

DSM tuner members receive $50 off the regular price, so it works out to be about $100 difference. Either way its really a decision you have to make. The H-3 compressor wheel will support around 50 HP more than the V-Trim. If your other modifications stop at a FMIC, 3" turbo back, 550's and an AFC then I would recommend the V-trim. If upgraded cams are in your future, then you would likely benefit more from the H-3.

 

[1029TSG]

Is there anyone in the Jacksonville, FL area that is planning to purchase or already has one of our T04B V-Trims? If so, please contact me directly.

 

[boost05]

this turbo is sick none the less, im getting my compressor polished!! its an awsome turbo I plan on making 350-400whp at around 25psi on this thing(to4b V-trim) if anyone else wants more hardcore info on it e-mail me at [email protected] look at my gallery for close up pics

 

[1029TSG]

Check out this deal www.thespeedfactor.com/turbo_t3t4_dsm.html

External V-Trim = $580 shipped with both gaskets
Internal V-Trim = $700 shipped with both gaskets

 

[memory-x]

hows it going , im getting all my stuff ready for my winter build , im thinking im wanting the T04B or T04B-H3 , im trying to come up with my list of mods to get, as i want to make for sure everything will work with each other, i think i have most of it covered

T04B or T04B-H3

what do i do for the manifold and 02 housing?

Apexi N1 cat back with rre downpipe

all blow thru piping from dejon

1gM gm mas intake pipe from dejon

gmaf30

gm maf translator

greddy type s bov

ofcourse the boost and egt gauges

NGK BPR7ES

msd 8.5 wires

greddy profec b spec 2

dsmlink v2

plx m-500 02 wideband controller

walbro 255 with rewire

aeromotive fpr with gauge

dont know on injectors...

b&m short throw shifter

centerforce dual-friction, h-d ball bearing pivot clutch

hks cams

dejon tool big smic

i want to make sure that will support the turbo, but i hear the smic from dejon wont keep up, i really dont like fmic's, but i will downgrade the mods if needed to keep it to a smic, as fmic's look sexy and mean looking, i kinda want the total stock look, my goal is 350-400 reliable
any input would be greatly apperciated

 

[sweet97]

I have experience in some of what you want to accomplish. One thing was misleading in your projected mod list and that is the manner in which you will run the MAF. You refer to it clearly as being in the draw through position and then again somewhat less when you have Dejon BLOW THRU piping listed. BLOW THRU would be used to describe tha MAF's position as being in the upper IC piping. I use the MAF in the blow thru position in the Dejon upper IC pipe. I don't know of any negatives for this choice but it's pros are a more accurate reading of air closer to the intake and a clearer path for the intake to the turbo with quicker spool.
I use the Dejon street FMIC and (although I have the larger To4e compressor housing) it doesn't really cut it, at least not yet but may with tuning corrected.
I see many guys with 16G's that use big FMIC's. I chose not to because of cutting the bumper. I may have to reconsider. You may want to look into this further. Even though Dejon has the large smic listed as supporting 400HP that is probably under perfect circumstances and possibly with race gas. He (Dave) does believe I will be able to tune for 18 PSI on the street FMIC. Downgrading the mods to keep the smic could mean no cams and a smaller turbo from my experience---which is limited. The IC decision is one you should really look into as it could be the difference in make or break your investment.
For exhaust manifold and 02 housing I went with EVO components from buschur, both ported. Slowboyracing has an exhaust manifod casting that looks promising but I have no experience with it or have I heard anthing about it. Fit would be my #1 concern wih the SBR Good Luck, Mark

 

[alex027]

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dejon tool big smic

i want to make sure that will support the turbo, but i hear the smic from dejon wont keep up, i really dont like fmic's, but i will downgrade the mods if needed to keep it to a smic, as fmic's look sexy and mean looking, i kinda want the total stock look, my goal is 350-400 reliable
any input would be greatly apperciated

I am in the exact same situation as you are. I want to keep the car looking as stock as possible. I also have the dejon tool sidemount. I have the super big sidemount, but im not sure if they are the same thing or not. To help the intercooler it might be worth your wihile to look into water injection. I just recently installed a kit and it works awesome. I am still only running a b16g , but am looking into getting something bigger and hoped that the sidemount would be sufficient. The sidemount that i have is 5" thick, and rated at 450 horsepower so I have my fingers crossed that it will work with the proper water injection setup.

 

[sweet97]

I have also and am stil considering water/alky injection. Then again how stock looking is that when you pop the hood or is the stock look only from a surface view? The injection system's I have looked at are expensive, what one do you use? please don't think I am knocking or argueing any options, either to enhance a smaller IC or needing a large FMIC. I just want to get itright. I got a deal on an AGP 50 trim, TO4e and then could not boost over 13 PSI without knock. Then I went with the street FMIC. My 550cc injectors were then too small to go much over 15 psi so I bought 720cc's. Way too big so I need 660's. I am the one who did not do enough research so I am paying for it.
I can say now that usually I had the belief that I needed to build my motor as strong as I could afford and then buy the turbo that would match the motor. that was with a different car. With the DSM I now believe the IC is the most important choice if any turbo over a 16G is going to be used. The engines are surprisingly strong.
I had an EVO III big16G and it worked well with the stock SMIC. It would have been great with the street FMIC. Now I am looking for a solution to my current situation:
1.50 trim
2. "street" FMIC
3. ???---I can't see putting a band aid on the FMIC. Mark

 

[nazthug]

get a front mount kit from JR on ebay(there is a discussion about his kit now on the forums)

I have it, the 25x7x3 core, its great, awesome quality, great performance, awesome price

I think a 25x7x3 is great for most 50trims

It flows like 700cfm and it has an interesting design, both inside and out, which makes it work great

I am getting my H3 turbo very soon, to replace my 16g which is running on JR's IC right now

I am going to upgrade to 660(i have 550 now) and shoot for 300whp on pump, 350whp on race gas

 

[alex027]

The water injection kit that i got was from www.aquastealth.com. Great kit. The only thing that you can see from the kit that would be any give away is the one line going to the throttle body. If it is done right it is not just a band aid for too small of an intercooler. It does so much for cooling the air and lowering the chances of knocking. Check this out.
http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41303&highlight=mod+years
Theres actually even better stories than that about w/i. A guy with a 20g running 20 psi on a stock sidemount with 0 knock. Thats more than just a band aid. As for power goals nazthug you will see much more than 300 horsepower on the to4b. I got 276 to the wheels on my b16g. Plus i'm awd so you will see much more out of that turbo.

 

[sweet97]

Thanks for an additional look at alky/injection. For ME it would be a bandaid simply because I did not take longer in my IC decision but I wanted the stock bumper intact. However the IC does not match the turbo. Not up to now however I hope furthur tuning will help.
I respect wanting to keep a car stock looking. Mark

 

[-red97rum-]

DSM tuner members receive $50 off the regular price, so it works out to be about $100 difference. Either way its really a decision you have to make. The H-3 compressor wheel will support around 50 HP more than the V-Trim. If your other modifications stop at a FMIC, 3" turbo back, 550's and an AFC then I would recommend the V-trim. If upgraded cams are in your future, then you would likely benefit more from the H-3.

What, if any, are the difference in spool times? How would the top end flow on an H-3 compare to a TO4E 50 trim.

Thanks,
Dustin

 

[1029TSG]

I'm not sure if you would even see much of a difference in spool up between a V-Trim, 50 Trim or H-3. The H-3 is rated at 50 lbs/min vs the 50 trim at 49 lbs/min. All of these compressor wheels are very similar in size and flow rates.