Suspension setup

[MrPikolo]

Suspension is my weak point at the moment, I really don't have to much experience in it. I'm interested in upgrading the suspension in my 95 tsi awd. It sees a good amount of drag racing, but I evently want to try my luck in auto-x.

Anyway, I was looking a couple different setup. One that has caught my attention more than others is the tien coil over/shock setup. Instead of having to buy Koni's and then ground control coil overs, it comes all as one setup. I'm just not sure which one I should go with. Tien has one set for around $700 and then another for $1,200(The flex kit). Of course, the $1,200 set will be the better one, but I'm intersted in how the cheaper one compairs to say a koni/ground control setup. Anyone run both before and have any opinions? I'd like to hear them.

 

[ldstang50]

If you want to run your car in auto-x and drag racing, the Tein flex will give you the ability to set your car up perfectly for each condition. If I'm correct you can adjust your dampening and height with the flex suspension. This suspension will give you the edge in launching your car and then tightening down to hug the cones.
The shock/spring set up is a one set up only suspension. You can't adjust the height or dampening. You'll be sacrificing a slightly better launch and slightly better handling by going down the middle of the road and getting the 'cheaper' suspension. Also you won't have the ability to adjust your car for a softer set up for the street. Not sure how tough your bossom is, but some suspensions out there can be pretty harsh.

 

[Jehu]

Not sure how tough your bossom is, but some suspensions out there can be pretty harsh.

His bossom? Sounds like you're suggesting he has man boobs, and he'd need pretty big ones to have the suspension affect it.

Please, don't talk about something you obviously don't know much about. The typical GC setup IS a coilover sleeve setup, which gives you height adjustability. I am not going to talk about either setup because this has been discussed so many times already it's not even funny. It's almost like the BOV vent topic...

 

[MrPikolo]

His bossom? Sounds like you're suggesting he has man boobs, and he'd need pretty big ones to have the suspension affect it.

Please, don't talk about something you obviously don't know much about. The typical GC setup IS a coilover sleeve setup, which gives you height adjustability. I am not going to talk about either setup because this has been discussed so many times already it's not even funny. It's almost like the BOV vent topic...

I'm not really that interested in hearing about the GC sleeve type coil over, I'm more interested in the cheaper tein setup.

My real question was what is the different between the three setups offered by Tein, but I may just end up calling them.

 

[ldstang50]

His bossom? Sounds like you're suggesting he has man boobs, and he'd need pretty big ones to have the suspension affect it.

Please, don't talk about something you obviously don't know much about.

I was talking about the Tein set up. The flex gives you height adjsutability, the cheaper Tein setups usually don't. I dont' know much about the groud control set up thats why i didnt' talk about it. If I did I either miss typed or you misunderstood.
And yes I have plenty of suspension knowledge, instead of being rude about you can ask a question about what I meant. I'm not like some of the morons on here that THINK they know something

 

[jim97gst]

Tein basic - height adjustability
Tein SS - height adjustability + adjustable damping
Tein Flex - above + spherical bearing upper mounts

This plus a wealth of detailed information on everything Tein carries is available quite readily on the Tein website.

http://www.tein.com/mitsubishi.html

 

[MrPikolo]

Tein basic - height adjustability
Tein SS - height adjustability + adjustable damping
Tein Flex - above + spherical bearing upper mounts

This plus a wealth of detailed information on everything Tein carries is available quite readily on the Tein website.

http://www.tein.com/mitsubishi.html

Thanks, that is exactly what I wanted. Now are the SS and Flex kits worth the extra money over the basic?

 

[jim97gst]

I think that all 3 use the same damper, but there's probably no way to tell that for sure unless Tein would tell you. I think for drag racing, the basic would be fine. Especially since you have AWD, it wouldn't benefit you as much as a FWD guy who would want to stiffen up the rear. The only benefit would be you could put it on the softer setting for the street. I would try out autocrossing a few times on your stock suspension to see how much you like it before you decide to go for the Flex.

Another option if you decide you really like autocross is a setup that Dennis Grant is putting together.

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/dsm-autox/message/13502

It will have matched Koni yellows that have been tested on a shock dyno, Hypercoil springs, and coax mount upper hats. If this was available (actually it's not quite yet available) when I was buying, it's probably what I would go for. I was scared to mix and match parts myself, but to have Dennis Grant, the king of DSM autocross do it for you, would make the process a lot more painless.