Suspension set up

[j30-tsi-awd]

Hey
I am looking into getting a new suspension set up for my 95 talon awd
I let a friend "lower" my car for me.
but all he did was torch the springs. It lowerd the ride a good 2 inches but its like riding a horse. its rediclously bumpy. It also messed up my camber really bad. dumb idea.
So im lookin to get a new set up.
I want keep a low profile but i must have a smoother ride. It dos'nt have to ride like a Cadillac but i gotta get somthing better than what i have.
Also, How hard is it to install>? is it something i could tackle myself or should i just take it in and have it done? what price rage should i aim for?
I herd something about a tekico kit (struts and springs).
any thoughts or help or anything would be awesome!
thanks so much!

-Scott

 

[JayRolla]

How much do you want to spend. Do you want a slammed look or just a little lower.

 

[snowborder714]

How much do you want to spend?
What do you use the car for (daily driver, weekend driver, drag, autocross)?
Do you want it to be height adjustable?
How much of a drop do you want to have?

Let us know about those so everyone can help you better. As for your questions, if you want a smoother ride, when you buy your suspension, get a softer spring rate. If you get a stiffer one (like in the 400's or 500's), it'll be a rougher ride. And as for the installation, I didn't think it was hard at all (other than needing to break a few bolts loose). If you get a Chilton's manual, you should have no problem replacing the suspension. If you need specific help, feel free to ask.

 

[j30-tsi-awd]

hey
the car is used for a daily driver. Height adjustable would be preferred. I was thinking maybe 1 1/2? inches I like how it looks right now but i hate the ride.
as for price i guess its negotiable but lets say under 600$
thanks
-Scott

 

[RS-RGS-T]

If you are gonna spend 600$ might as well save i lil more and get some megan coilovers. They are awsome for price and the unspoken word is that t3|n makes them. If your wanna go a lil easier on your wallet just use stock shocks, if still good, on eibach they are nice and stiff on good shocks pro kit is a less of a drop while sportline is more. Id go prokit. dont pay more than 275 for them though.

 

[EL13EVIL]

For A Little More You Can Get Some Tein Basic's

 

[snowborder714]

If you're looking at prices up to $600, I'd recommend saving up a bit more and getting a set of coilovers. They'll give you great adjustability and will ride very nice. As said before, if you do want to spend the least amount, just get a good set of springs. Some adjustability but not as much as coilovers. I personally have coilovers so can't really help you out in the shock/spring department, but I'll tell you that they are awesome! Not too stiff of a ride, increases handling, and can be adjusted really easily.

 

[j30-tsi-awd]

Say i go with just ebiach springs
the sportline is more of agressive drop with a harsher ride and the prokit is less drop and a smoother ride? correct?
Basicly the way i see it. anything is better than what i have now. its like i need to wear a neck brace just to ride in the car.
Will my camber still be way off if i just go with the springs?
How hard is the install for the springs? time? tools?

thanks

-Scott

 

[romeen]

Say i go with just ebiach springs
the sportline is more of agressive drop with a harsher ride and the prokit is less drop and a smoother ride? correct?
Basicly the way i see it. anything is better than what i have now. its like i need to wear a neck brace just to ride in the car.
Will my camber still be way off if i just go with the springs?
How hard is the install for the springs? time? tools?

thanks

-Scott

1) You're correct about the Prokit vs. Sportlines.
2) Yes, your camber will be affected (negative camber) anytime you lower a car. The toe will also be off. The more you lower it, the more the alignment changes.
3) Springs are not hard to install. But you will need a spring compressor tool to do it.

Also keep in mind that you will need new shocks as well (if you don't already have them). I have the Tokico Illuminas and am very pleased with them.

 

[j30-tsi-awd]

so will i need a camber kit or anything? i dont want to kill my tiers
i cant reuse my shocks?

 

[romeen]

so will i need a camber kit or anything? i dont want to kill my tiers
i cant reuse my shocks?

The stock shocks will not last long once the car has been lowered, so yes you need new ones. Some guys have been able to get away without a camber correction kit if the springs they get don't drop the car too much. They do get some negative camber but they live with it. To be able to properly correct the alignment a camber correction kit is recommended, especially for a more aggressive drop. Here is some info copied from RRE's website which may be helpful.

"Most tire wear problems are caused by not having an alignment performed after changing the height of the car. As the tie rods travel through an arc with any height change, the toe in of the tires change. This must always be re-adjusted with any height change. Most guys see the camber being negative and think that is the major cause of the excess wear on the inside tires. It is actually caused by the tires toeing out when the car is lowered. This will clean the tread off the inside of the tire faster than anything."

 

[thegchild04]

Your shocks are basically shot; my best advice to you is to save your money until you have enough to buy a spring/shock combo or coilovers. You don't want to change springs and still have a shitty ride quality do you?

 

[j30-tsi-awd]

ahhh it makes sence.
I have been looking at the tokico kits.
there is a hp kit for around 390$ and the illumina kit for 550$.
anyone used either of these kits? im guessing the more expensive one is better?
so if i pick one of these kits up. then ill need to order a camber kit as well then i should be all set? and good to go?
How much am i lookin at to get these installed? i mean i think i MIGHT be able to do it but id rather make sure it gets done right ya know?
thanks again!
-Scott

 

[j30-tsi-awd]

anyone?

 

[Cs4g63]

The price for install depends on what the shop you take it to has for its hourly rate, and sometimes they will give you an outrageous price if they dont feel like doing the work.

 

[thegchild04]

think you should do it yourself, pick up a shop manual

 

[j30-tsi-awd]

alright ill look into the install some more. does anyone have any recomendations on a shock/spring kit? what are most people running on there cars?

 

[romeen]

alright ill look into the install some more. does anyone have any recomendations on a shock/spring kit? what are most people running on there cars?

Eibach Prokit and Tokico Illuminas is a popular combination for the 2G's. But it depends how much of a drop you want and how stiff you want the ride to be.

 

[magnet8289]

I'm happy with my current set up... I have the KYB GR-2 shocks with the Eibach Pro-Kit lowering springs. It's lowers the car 1.3" front and rear. I also have the Eibach front and rear camber kits which you will need in order to save your tires from frequent replacement. As far as ride quality, I love this set up because it's stiff and can handle turns and cornering very well without feeling like your're on a roller coaster. As far as installation, as long as you have patience, a shop manual, some simple tools and a spring compressor which you can rent for cheap, it's probably easier and more cost effective to install it yourself.

 

[FenixTX717]

I have a question.....

has anyone changed the springs/shocks on a spyder? Also are all FWD springs the same....i've heard a yes and no answer and I'm about to buy some springs but they don't list the spyder.....I wouldn't see why a regular FWD vs. a Spyder FWD the same.....a little help???

also i know nothing about camber kits....which is a good one for the price and are they hard to install??? I'm a picture person myself so without any pictures i'm useless with installing things........i can do it but just need some help....

 

[j30-tsi-awd]

alright thanks so much for the help. i will continue to research ill keep you posted on the outcome!
thanks again!
-Scott