shift cable bushings upgrade help....

[boosted 96 eclipse]

So the bushings in my shift cable under the hood are bad like really bad bad enough to where if it want for the c-clip half of the rubber would stay on the shaft and the cable would come off. Now that you guys know how bad they are haha... I need some help. I was looking at the stiff under hood shift kit from dsmparts.com but than i read on one of these dsm forums that you can use roller blade bearings or skateboard bearings. I have no idea which would be better and if it's bearings than i have no idea what size i would need. I don't have a skateboard/roller blade shop here in Cheyenne Wyoming that i know about anyways. All help would be great.

 

[LiquidX]

Jacks Transmissions recommended to use the stock bushings last time I spoke with them a while back.

 

[bradselph]

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I got mine from ebay they work fine.

 

[boosted 96 eclipse]

Yeah the stock bushing is about that bad haha it has cracks back to the cable also... Ebay has the stiff shift kit too? I did not know that. So the bearings are a no go? Why stock bushings? They obviously don't have endurance.

 

[Purple_Demon]

I just use the Brass bushing kit from ebay along with the aluminum shifter base bushing kit. Best two upgrades you can do. I suggest doing both at once.

Shifter Cable Bushings:

DSM BRASS SHIFTER CABLE BUSHING KIT Eclipse Talon Short | eBay


Shifter Base Bushings:

2G 1995-1999 DSM SHIFTER BASE BUSHING KIT Eclipse Talon | eBay

 

[Silver99OZ]

I just use the Brass bushing kit from ebay along with the aluminum shifter base bushing kit. Best two upgrades you can do. I suggest doing both at once.

Shifter Cable Bushings:

DSM BRASS SHIFTER CABLE BUSHING KIT Eclipse Talon Short | eBay


Shifter Base Bushings:

2G 1995-1999 DSM SHIFTER BASE BUSHING KIT Eclipse Talon | eBay

I also have the brass bushings and they make an unbelievable difference in the feel of the shifter. They help get rid of the mushy feeling. In addition I have Energy Suspension shifter base bushings and they are great too, but I would go with the metal ones over those. You will not be disapointed if you purchase the parts linked above, they are well worth it.

 

[LiquidX]

Finally dug up the old email. This is what I was informed with after saying I had solid bushings.

"
Solid bushings are horrible for not only the trans but cables. Usually what will happen is one of the crimped areas of the cables will come loose and the cable will no longer be able to give the full throw needed to engage reverse. There are tubes inside of the cable to prevent it from kinking when the cable tries to push the lever. A cable naturally can't push, it can only pull, so the tubes allow it to push. If one of those tubes loses its crimp, it will no longer work correctly."
- Jacks Transmissions


Some of that may have been some diagnosis for a trans problem I had during that time.

 

[boosted 96 eclipse]

Alrighty well i will go with the metal bushings. I'm stoked to get them and take the car for a spin!

Should i go with cnc aluminum shifter cable bushings or brass ones?

 

[bryanwheat]

Finally dug up the old email. This is what I was informed with after saying I had solid bushings.

"
Solid bushings are horrible for not only the trans but cables. Usually what will happen is one of the crimped areas of the cables will come loose and the cable will no longer be able to give the full throw needed to engage reverse. There are tubes inside of the cable to prevent it from kinking when the cable tries to push the lever. A cable naturally can’t push, it can only pull, so the tubes allow it to push. If one of those tubes loses its crimp, it will no longer work correctly."
- Jacks Transmissions


Some of that may have been some diagnosis for a trans problem I had during that time.

That's cool and i respect jacks opinion, but i have been using the skate board bearings for 15 years and put many thousands of miles on them in many different cars and have had no such problems with them.

 

[92AWDHX40]

Mach v has some nice ones, skateboard works too ive used both i like the brass ones easier to work with when i dont want to bang on my cables to get the skateboard bearings in.

 

[bryanwheat]

Mach v has some nice ones, skateboard works too ive used both i like the brass ones easier to work with when i dont want to bang on my cables to get the skateboard bearings in.

No banging or hammering required. A c clamp is all that is needed.

 

[92AWDHX40]

I used the skateboards one but the brass ones for me is easier, we all have our ways of doing things.

 

[LiquidX]

My shifter cables with new oem bushings felt just as good if not the same than when I had solid bushings.

Just stating my opinion, I haven't had issues with either.

 

[gusu]

Skateboard bearings only come in one size.

So you will be able to use any skateboard bearing you want.

But, brass bushings on Ebay are cheaper.

 

[boosted 96 eclipse]

Ok gusu should i use aluminum ones or the brass ones?

 

[2slow4now]

Hey liquidx I have skateboard bearings as well but haven't put a bunch of miles on them. Do you think something like the torque solutions ones would be a compromise between solid metal and roller bearing. Mitsubishi Eclipse 2G Talon Laser Shifter Bushings

 

[this_tsi_8urV8]

I used Tq solution bushings and they were the easiest set to install. I also upgraded the side bushing of the levers with Sheps bushings, and pretty good upgrade, specially since the other were hella old.

 

[LiquidX]

Hey liquidx I have skateboard bearings as well but haven't put a bunch of miles on them. Do you think something like the torque solutions ones would be a compromise between solid metal and roller bearing. Mitsubishi Eclipse 2G Talon Laser Shifter Bushings

They all do the same thing, oem are softer with some give while solid are hard without give. Just pick one Imo.

 

[estoyaqui30]

Don't use skateboard bushings, they will cause a lot of headaches later...I had the ones from machv.com and they rusted and seized so bad after 2 or 3 years that I had a really hard time getting them off when I was replacing the transmission. I cleaned and oiled them and put them back. Now a year later I had the cat at JNZtuning to have some work done and they said that they were completely seized. It took them a lot of effort to get them off without breaking the pin that slide onto. I had them replace them with a set of Delrin ones and are really nice. Cost $18.00 for the new one and they feel really solid.

 

[DSMnOOb00]

Go with the metal bushings! The skate bearings are a pain in the butt hole to install if you don't have right tools.

 

[boosted 96 eclipse]

I just ordered the brass bushings!

 

[2slow4now]

They all do the same thing, oem are softer with some give while solid are hard without give. Just pick one Imo.

It's too bad a vendor doesn't come up with a urethane one that is slightly harder than the OEM one's. Urethane survives so much better than rubber. Maybe a hint to someone out there that makes subframe urethane bushings.

 

[boosted 96 eclipse]

I am stoked and can't wait to get them put in and take my baby out got a cruise! Haha

 

[LOLZFWD]

if u do trans bushings rip apart ## console and take a look at your base bushings also the side to side are always loose...shit my whole shifter was loose and i replaced the whole thing with billet rollerbearing block...custom

 

[boosted 96 eclipse]

if u do trans bushings rip apart ## console and take a look at your base bushings also the side to side are always loose...shit my whole shifter was loose and i replaced the whole thing with billet rollerbearing block...custom

Do you have a picture of what your talking about??