RnR Racing T3/T4 KIt pic "Finally"

[FastRthenU]

is it possible to see a pic of the inside of the collector?? thanks

 

[larryd]

Originally posted by Unreal


AGP setup fits fine with stock fans.

It does?? Hmm I have my stock fan out, maybe I should put it back in now

 

[Unreal]

Thats the whole reason GSX switched to it. He was always overheating with aftermarket fans. He wanted a nice turbo that he could keep his A/C and all that with. So he went with an AGP t3/t4 kit. Now he can keep his A/C and still drive in 110 degree Phoenix heat without over heating. What a great design for anyone who wants to keep A/C or have a nice car. Never seen a DSM with aftermarket fans that can keep cool on a 100+ day. Stock fans simply rule for cooling.

Plus, slim fans are expensive. Good spals are $100+ a pop. Add that to the RnR kit price.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by Unreal
Never seen a DSM with aftermarket fans that can keep cool on a 100+ day.

I have a spal 13" and 11," wile it does not get nearly as hot in Maryland as it does in Arizona. We had some 101-102* days last summer, and I never had an over heating problem wit the ac on.

 

[Got Grip]

Originally posted by jdmawd


I have a spal 13" and 11," wile it does not get nearly as hot in Maryland as it does in Arizona. We had some 101-102* days last summer, and I never had an over heating problem wit the ac on.

Do you think your aluminum radiator helped with that?

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by Got Grip


Do you think your aluminum radiator helped with that?

:laugh:

forgot about that sorry i guess it would.

 

[Unreal]

But you could easily see stuck in rush hour traffic, with it being 120 out, and the car not having a good time.

So lets say a 11" and 13" spal fan are enough, thats still $200+ in fans.

 

[DCJ98GST]

Originally posted by FastRthenU
is it possible to see a pic of the inside of the collector?? thanks

I second that.

Also what is the size of the AGP manifold runners inner diameter?

 

[sleeper142]

In my opinion it wouldnt be too much of a better manifold than the stocker, unless you need the extra room for a fan. The stock 2g exhaust manifold is a great unit that flows well. The only reason I would switch to a different manifoldl would be to go to an equal length setup, for faster spool up time. People have run 10's and 9 second passes on 2g manifolds, with no problems. It it isnt a restriction and not breaking, why fix it? Check out www.full-race.com they make some cool manifolds
Albert

 

[GSX4LIFE]

Originally posted by sleeper142
In my opinion it wouldnt be too much of a better manifold than the stocker, unless you need the extra room for a fan. The stock 2g exhaust manifold is a great unit that flows well. The only reason I would switch to a different manifoldl would be to go to an equal length setup, for faster spool up time. People have run 10's and 9 second passes on 2g manifolds, with no problems. It it isnt a restriction and not breaking, why fix it? Check out www.full-race.com they make some cool manifolds
Albert

Yeah.... $975 for a SS manni.HAHAHAHAHA!!:laugh: That is just sad. That thing better clean my house and wipe my Azz, after I take a duece for almost a grand!:laugh:

 

[gritsak]

Originally posted by GSX4LIFE



Yeah.... $975 for a SS manni.HAHAHAHAHA!!:laugh: That is just sad. That thing better clean my house and wipe my Azz, after I take a duece for almost a grand!:laugh:

i think they are actually over 1g....but its not that bad of a price considering how well its made...a top notch equal length manifold that is made from THICK 8g 304 SS...and look at the collector, its a work of art...it may be outta price range for alot of people but if you have the money it would be tough to beat IMO...

on that note i personally ordered the agp kit after a guarrenty by the owner about the manifold, i ordered a day or two later. when someone that doesnt even make the manifold is willing to warrenty it 100% thats enough proof to me that they believe in the product. anyways, just thought ide throw my personal 2 cents in

 

[sleeper142]

South Flordia Performance warantees their work for a year, yes a warantee on an aftermarket product. Also check out www.dnperformance.com they have nice SS headers for like 500 dollars or something like that. I think vicious gsx runs that header, and he has had no problem. Typical rule of thumb for tubular exhaust manifolds is to use 16 gauge 321 stainless, and support tabs or bracing to prevent cracking. The one picture i saw in this thread, the thing looked like it was made of weld els. Which are basically just pipe fittings more or less... i still say stick to the 2g manifold baby, worked for pruven performance, and many others who have 500+ hp and are in the 9's

Oh yeah for over a grand that thing had better give some damn good head, before I buy it.

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

The choice is not to stick between a stock 2g manifold and a tubular manifold...its to choose between a cast garret manifold for 450-475 and a tubular manifold.

If you pay over 500 for a manifold with runners shorter then 30 inches, your a ###, a eqaul length manifold with runner a foot long with only help you in the fast and the furious.

 

[FastRthenU]

In all honesty. The manifold looks basically like the turbonetics cast mani. But its stainless, and has the wategate off the collector. WHich is better IMO.

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

It probably flows better, has a better merge collectore, and weighs 7 lb's less. I still don't think any small manifold is going to cause a tremendous performance increase, but given the option, all I tak lite and tubular over heavy and cast any day.

 

[KenTSIII]

Yep.. I agree.. the manifold definately looks like it was made from Weld Els... that would also be the reason why the manifold is not as shiny as the tubular ones. Weld Els are actually cast & about 1/8" thick so a weld el manifold is pretty heavy.. if not heavier than a stocker. Now I'm not saying that there is anything wrong w/ this. Stainless weld els are somewhat cheap & would be very strong if correctly welded. We looked into doing some of these.. but it's just not worth the time/$$$ & DSMers normally aren't willing to pay the price for a really "nice" manifold. I've also heard that there's vendor(s) out there that is in the process of casting their own manifolds... so I guess we'll have to wait & see how that turns out.

 

[FastRthenU]

Well someone asked before if the flanges were also stainless. I would also like to know the anwser to this. Ryan. Also if you could post the better quailty pics that would be great. If you could post a pick of it the car, and one of the inside of the collector. I also asked if you could polish one of the manifolds to show. Because as I said I might want this option. thanks

 

[Unreal]

I would bet the flanges are not stainless. Stainless expands too much to use for the flanges. If they were stainless, they would break the nuts right off the studs. You can have shiney runners with rusty flanges.

 

[Z1500]

Originally posted by RnR Racing
Now that we have everything completed, it will be a 1 week wait on turbo kits ordered from here on out.

It's been a week. Did they ship out?
I thought you said you would post more pictures so we could see the clearance to the radiator. What about fitment with the Garrett 4-bolt turbine housings?


Kevin

 

[Heat]

Originally posted by RnR Racing
it will be a 1 week wait on turbo kits ordered from here on out.

So, any update on kits that were ordered in february -_-?
whoops didn't see post above mine, but yeah -_-"

 

[FastRthenU]

Havent gotton mine yet.

I would also like the pics that were promised

 

[GSX]

Originally posted by GSX


Hmmm ... thought you were going for the AGPTurbo kit. Oh well, let us know how the RnR one turns out.

Anyhow, carry on. Thanks.

FastRthenU, *** in this case it doesn't appear so - just joking ***

My comments were on page 1, here we are on page 4 ... betcha woulda had your AGP kit by now. Sometimes the bleeding edge cuts deep :: doh ::

Serioulsy, Good Luck

 

[FastRthenU]

GSX. that isnt very nice now is it. Yah I might have been able to have the AGP kit by now. But what do you do.

 

[RnR Racing]

We use the same material as full-race. Their 8 gauge SS low carbon weldable elbows. You guys aren't getting the point of the manifold. We built it so that you can bolt a Garrett turbo onto your DSM. A 2g manifold is good for performance and price, but it doesn't do any good if you can't use it with the Garrett turbo.

You won't see a huge difference in performance with our manifold over a ported 2g manifold. That is why we aren't building them for mitsubishi turbos. We build them so that you don't have to use the Turbonetics manifold for $500. The ported 2g manifold does fine and is cheap.

The wastegate clears everything just fine. You can use your stock radiator fan. If you want to keep your AC then you will need a $80 slim fan like most other ext. set ups. Also the 4 bolt housing clears everything as well.

I will try and get more pics up soon. We are just trying to get all your orders out. That is our number one priority right now. We won't have any polished pics for a while.

 

[Unreal]

Pete and I will be working on besting out new times, getting deeper in the 11s, as you still wait for pictures of your kit.