RnR Racing T3/T4 KIt pic "Finally"

[L2RTSiAWD]

Originally posted by FastRthenU
thanks for removing that pic. Well lets talk about the manifold pic. Whats your take on it. Quailty wise, design, overall impressions. Anything you can add on it, would help. thanks

I'll reserve my judgement after Ryan shows the final product.

 

[Z1500]

I'd like to see a pic of it more from the top. The #3 runner looks shorter than stock. Are the runners really that short or is it the pic? If you're going to use that, why not just go with a log style, they're super cheap.

Kevin

 

[FastRthenU]

what are the effects of having that short of runners??

 

[CBgst]

Well it sure is nice to see this now after I already ordered my kit. If had known they were still doing r&d on the mani I might not have ordered from them. Oh well I hope it turns out alright. I'll post some pics after I get my kit so everyone can see the complete set up. I hope it's as good as he made it out to be when I talked to him

 

[RnR Racing]

We are pretty busy and haven't had much time as of recently. We will be getting back to all calls tommorrow. I am sorry if we haven't been able to get back to our customers today or answer the phone. We are just working a lot of hours to get orders out asap. Our priority is to get all orders out fast so customers don't have to wait a long time for the parts they have already paid for.

The manifold is well built and all the R&D is completed. We will be making no more changes and if you want a pic of the entire set up installed on a engine just email us tommorrow and we will send one to you.

The welds are actually pretty nice and much better than any mig weld job used by other manifold builders. The bends are also a lot thicker than competitors material. I don't see how you could go wrong.

Email with any questions or price quotes. [email protected]

 

[FastRthenU]

you did not answer z1500, about the lenght of the runners, and expecial number 3 runner being shorter then stock?? Just wondering about the effects of this??

 

[ItsStockOfficer]

Originally posted by FastRthenU
you did not answer z1500, about the lenght of the runners, and expecial number 3 runner being shorter then stock?? Just wondering about the effects of this??

Absolutlley nothing. Tuned runners ONLY work if you have runners at least 30 inches long. Otherwise the harmonics are are such a tiny affect they will never be noticeable. Even on a dyno you wouldn't be able to see the difference because its so small it would hide in run to run variation.

There might be a spool difference of about 100 rpm? Maybe not that much. Its really pointless to worry about. Id much rather worry about strong and high flowing over equal lengths, which is pretty much a magazine sales pitch unless you have a REAL race header. IE the turbo will end up far away =)

 

[FastRthenU]

Ok I probley have a few misconceptions about what a SS manifold should look like. I always thought that a stainless steel manifold looked like this one from magnus. Why is this one shinny, and the RnR one looks really dull. Like just regular exhaust pipe? Can someone answer me this. I dont think the mangus one is poilished either.

 

[larryd]

If someone gets this picture from Ryan today be sure to post it up. Im sure ALOT of people here are waiting to see what it looks like.

 

[FastRthenU]

ill post it the minute I get it. But why does the tubeing look so different. I thought ss is suposed to be shinny??

 

[Z1500]

Originally posted by ItsStockOfficer

Absolutlley nothing. Tuned runners ONLY work if you have runners at least 30 inches long. Otherwise the harmonics are are such a tiny affect they will never be noticeable.

Tuned runners are only one aspect of manifold design. Size, volume, length, shape, angles, and how one aspect of the manifold effects the rest....... Like I said, a log style manifold would work too and is super cheap. I guess you should just ask yourself why you are ditching the stock manifold. If you are ditching it because you want the cheapest way to bolt a T3/T4 onto your car then a log style would be the cheapest. If you want to upgraded to something that performs better then do that. Cylinders running inconsistently from one to the next is usually manifold related.

Kevin

 

[jdmawd]

if you are looking for a bad ass manifold i can hook you up with who made this one

 

[jdmawd]

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[Gtalon]

Originally posted by jdmawd
if you are looking for a bad ass manifold i can hook you up with who made this one

Who makes that manifold?

 

[FastRthenU]

To be honest. That is what I expected when I was told it was a SS manifold. No one told me why these other exhausts are so shinny, and the RnR one is dull?? is it because they are polished or different metel??

 

[Z1500]

JDM-
Now THAT is a sexy manifold. Sign me up.

Kevin

 

[Ben K]

Originally posted by Z1500
JDM-
Now THAT is a sexy manifold. Sign me up.

Kevin

Yummy.

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

Originally posted by Z1500
JDM-
Now THAT is a sexy manifold. Sign me up.

Kevin

He put some bling bling on that one.

But how does it perform?

 

[RnR Racing]

The manifold was built so that people could bolt a T3/T4 onto their car and not cost them a ton of money. The manifold was built very well, so that it could last and be reliable. We didnt want to build a log style manifold that won't flow near as much. The log style manifolds look bad and don't perform as well either.

The number 3 runner is longer than the stock manifold runner. The manifold flows really well and the merge collector is built so that all the runners go smoothly into one. The manifold is placed away from the block so that you won't have any fitment problems and you won't have to pound the water pipe.

Building an equal length header wouldn't be the best for most DMSers out there so that is why we didn't do it that way. The material used on those headers isn't near as thick and that increases the chance of cracking. Also the cost involved with it wouldn't be something liked by most people. We use thick SS low carbon 8 gauge tubing for the manifold. Everything is tig welded so that insures penetration of the metal.

A header or manifold on turbo car doesn't matter near as much as a NA car. The turbo cars make power pretty easily. That is why you see a lot of people going really fast on the stock exhaust manifolds. We built our manifold so that people could bolt on their turbo without any problems and still make a lot of power.

SS piping doesn't come polished, but we can polish the headers. Once you heat it up it's going to change all cool colors anyway.

I will be emailing the pics later so that he can post them.

 

[FastRthenU]

Thanks ryan.

 

[Ben K]

Originally posted by RnR Racing
The manifold is placed away from the block so that you won't have any fitment problems and you won't have to pound the water pipe.

With what turbine housings?

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by Z1500
JDM-
Now THAT is a sexy manifold. Sign me up.

Kevin

if you guys are serious drop me an e-mail [email protected] i will give you contact info for the shop

 

[jdmawd]

last one

 

[FastRthenU]

Those are some clean ass welds.

Got a question for ryan. How come all the manifolds that I have seen that are tig welded. The welds are a bronze colour. But yours look dark gray, or black. Just wondering why this is??

 

[RnR Racing]

Here are some pics