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precision sc61 tapped out at 497awhp whats next?

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I assure you it's not finished. This is 34-35psi with AEM on an internal wastegate. 590hp 556tq. Has since made 636whp. Same dyno for both cars.

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This is the same turbo on another car with a stroker motor and pump gas with dsmlink.

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you don't have it maxed. turn the boost up to 40, you should be maxing out around there.

and whoever owns the car in the upper dyno chart needs to find his glasses and take a look at his wideband. Also consider that's SAE in colorado which is gonna be way off from realistic for a turbo car.
 
That run the 5bar map sensor started to die. After that we couldn't get any consistent runs with the A/F. it has since been corrected an is as flat as a board. The pull was 475awhp at 5900. Uncorrected. Please don't neasay at our corrected values, as you have probably never ha experience with our altitude.

Lets put it this way again, Stephan Papadakis ran 6.9 seconds here the past two years in a row. At sea level he runs what a 6.4. Thats half a second for a real race car. Imagine how much a normal car is going to lose. I will argue with you guys about this until the end. Most of you don't have to deal with altitude. I you could come to bandimere and watch how it affects cars then you might understand. C5 corvettes run 14.7-14.9's here bone stock. 99+ mustangs run 15.8-16.2 bone stock up here.

Steven
 
dsm-onster said:
Any Bullseye distributor can provide you a turbine housing that will mate a Holset to your intake manifold and down pipe.

If you're looking for 700 whp, then you had better get the FP3Xs or even more cam. Don't putz around w/ 272s.

Ecoli made 690+whp on his 2.4 with hks 272s. This was on a 2.4 with mild head work. You act as if no one has made any power on the 272s. A SMIM would be a better upgrade for him at this point, but I too am a fan of bigger cams.

As for the relatively low power, What hotside and turbine wheel are you running? I would guess a .63 and t350 which should be plenty to make more power. You might have some blade damage which is hurting the airfow ceiling as that combo should make at least 550-600AWHP.

A t67/p trim in a .82 t3 sounds like it would fit your needs nicely. There may be some fitment issues with the turbonetics manifold though. STill, the.82 is a much better choice for your goals.
 
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I assure you it's not finished. This is 34-35psi with AEM on an internal wastegate. 590hp 556tq. Has since made 636whp. Same dyno for both cars.

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This is the same turbo on another car with a stroker motor and pump gas with dsmlink.

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MAC autosport.....renowned for having the most optimistc dyno readings in the nation thatnks to worthless altitude correction....
I assure you that car won't make anyting like that at sea level (ie no inflated correction). Normally I wouldn't care, but you always spout off the nhumbers to brag when you yourself know them to be worthless......
 

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OMG WIll people stop throwin out new turbos I think it has been established that he just needs to figure out why he's not flowing like he should be cause as it has been proven his turbo with boost alone can put him close to his goal and with the spray hell he will see 700whp easy.
 
2bar4g63t said:
whats up guys, well my precision sc61 has pretty much reached its limits at 497awhp on alamo autosports awd dyno. Im running a 2.3 with all the fuel/cooling i'll ever need. just wanted to get some recommendations on what turbo to get next, I'm running an extremely ported turbonetics cast manifold that I wanted to stick with so something compatable with that would be good. thanks.

This is my suggestion as to your next step turbo wise, however I agree with most everyone here you have not maxed out your own turbo.

http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id=4872&

The turbo in this link we have made 650 plus on just boost alone, and a hair over 700 WHP with a small shot of nitrous.

Mike Huml
 
biglady112 said:
I assure you it's not finished. This is 34-35psi with AEM on an internal wastegate. 590hp 556tq. Has since made 636whp. Same dyno for both cars.

dont forget there is a difference between frontwhp and awhp
 
ok guys I'll go ahead and just get the fpx3 cams and the magnus smim and retune with a small shot and see what happens. THANKS FOR ALL THE HELPFUL INFORMATION!!!! -albert
 
2bar4g63t said:
ok guys I'll go ahead and just get the fpx3 cams and the magnus smim and retune with a small shot and see what happens. THANKS FOR ALL THE HELPFUL INFORMATION!!!! -albert

HELLS YEAH :rocks: good choice man I was affraid you would fall to the dark side and jump shipp on your sc61 LOL.
 
Both cars are AWD. Chris made 338 uncorrected on pump gas on that dyno. Tara's car made 506awhp 483tq uncorrected.

nanokpsi- I guess we will se what kind of horsepower she is NOT making at the shootout this year than. I don't know why you continue to attack us about the dyno numbers. Yes MAC has big correction factors, plain and simple, the car puts the power down. The car has run 120mph+ full weight up here. I guess that means she is not putting out any power.

TO the original poster. There is more left in it. Yes this turbo is small, but if ou turn the boost up a good bit it can make power. On the above mentioned car, it hit 42psi on the dyno but at the time it was on a stock ignition and it couldn't keep up. Now she has a COP and full MSD setup and we will find out what it can do at the track on the 15th.

Steven
 
biglady112 said:
That run the 5bar map sensor started to die. After that we couldn't get any consistent runs with the A/F. it has since been corrected an is as flat as a board. The pull was 475awhp at 5900. Uncorrected. Please don't neasay at our corrected values, as you have probably never ha experience with our altitude.

Lets put it this way again, Stephan Papadakis ran 6.9 seconds here the past two years in a row. At sea level he runs what a 6.4. Thats half a second for a real race car. Imagine how much a normal car is going to lose. I will argue with you guys about this until the end. Most of you don't have to deal with altitude. I you could come to bandimere and watch how it affects cars then you might understand. C5 corvettes run 14.7-14.9's here bone stock. 99+ mustangs run 15.8-16.2 bone stock up here.

Steven

stock vettes and stangs run the same times here. depends on driver.

Fact is, where you all clame 70whp difference it's really only like 25. A local from here just moved out there and proved it.
 
nanokpsi said:
Ecoli made 690+whp on his 2.4 with hks 272s. This was on a 2.4 with mild head work. You act as if no one has made any power on the 272s. A SMIM would be a better upgrade for him at this point, but I too am a fan of bigger cams.
I was just trying to help this guy reach his goal easier. Like you've said recently, more flow lets one get away with more on lower octane.

But definately! He's ready for a SMIM now.
 
May also look into a gt 37R or a 40R. I will also agree with everyone here, I would spend my money else places before you ditch off the turbo. Best of luck.
 
Alright last post arguing with you. I have raced both here and where you live. I have raced two different cars, 2000 civic and my 90 talon. I race at both capitol raceway and budds creek.

The Civic ran a 17.2 with me driving here. It ran a 15.8 at capitol and 16.0 at budds creek. My talon ran a 12.2 here and a 11.4 a capitol without any changes and a 11.7 at budds creek without any changes. I know about the guy with the evo. But I have raced(not dynoed) in both places. I have also raced in Wall, Texas and Las Vegas. My talon ran a 11.6 in texas and a 11.5 in Las Vegas. Obviously the altitude makes a differece. There. True life numbers, not FLUFFED dyno numbers you can bi*** about.

Steven
 
He's saying the SAE corrections at those altitudes are worth dick, and he's 100% right. We've seen cars make 300whp near sealevel and when they get to Colorado they make 380whp corrected. That's a little strange if you ask me.
 
I don't know shit about sea level vs higher altitudes via first hand but a car that runs about a full second faster at diffrent altitude is makin in the ball park of a 80-100hp more..food for thought.:thumb:
 
Oh noes! Someone is posting something on teh intranet that not everyone believes! I'll notify the Feds ASAP!

I wouldn't give two shits if the guy said the car made 1,500 awhp corrected, because, *gasp*, it doesn't affect me. The original poster knows there's more in the turbo, so let the crap die already.

Christ.
 
476 awhp pump gas completly stock 6 blot, (stock cams,block,head,pistons,intake), 2g mani, dsmlink with a sc61. this is a very good friend of mines car, i watched it dnyo, wicked good numbers on it,
 
Mark90gst said:
476 awhp pump gas completly stock 6 blot, (stock cams,block,head,pistons,intake), 2g mani, dsmlink with a sc61. this is a very good friend of mines car, i watched it dnyo, wicked good numbers on it,
No offense but that seems a little high. I'm not saying he didn't do it or anything like that I'm just stating that those numbers don't follow a lot of the numbers I've seen/been around. Most of the gt40 compressor wheel turbos I've seen on 24-25psi on pump with mostly stock stuff make around 400whp or slightly more. I would say those numbers would be about on par for a 35r with cams and SMIM at around 28psi. How much boost was he running with the liquid detonation? Got a dyno graph?
 
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