Ok so i did this, whats next??

[EOMoreno]

Today i did a little tune up on my non turbo 1995 eclipse, i changed both its engine oil and filter, changed its pcv value, its spark plugs and wires and cleaned some hoses here and there. I did all this because i recently bought the car and went and did a smog and it failed . And they recommended to do its tune up to lower the numbers, but i still dont feel like it would pass... what else should i do?? Should i change both its oxygen sensors? Change its EGR valve?? Check for any kind of air leaks?? but i have no clue how to do that. Should i run some seafoam?? Get 91 octane?
Well if anyone has any suggestions that would be great This is my first car ever and im only 17 so im still learning soo sorry if i seem like a big noob.
Ohhhh and today when i changed the fourth spark plug, i noticed that engine oil was on it... is that bad??? Ohh after the tune up, the speedometer doesnt work anymore, is it the VSS?? haha sorry for all the questions, im just trying to learn my way through this car.

Here are the readings to the smog check, sorry for the crappy pics.

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[dsmtun3r98gst]

Did you change your air filter as well?? what brand of sprak plugs did you put??? yeah you could actually just clean your EGR valve with brake parts cleaner. Changing your oxingen sensor might give you better numbers as well but to be honest if there is no check engine for it it shouldn't be a mayor concern even for the egr.

Was the engine oil in the ceramic part of the plug or in the electrode part?? if its on the ceramic part it should be your spark plug grommet that is worn out. If it on the elctrode part then you either have a blown piston ring or it could be that your valve stem seals that are lettion oil into the piston cylinder.

Another thing that you have to check for is that you don't have an exhaust leak before your O2s cus that could cause you too read really high in your numbers.

If nothing else works you could try one of those guaranteed to pass that they sell at the auto parts stores. I've actually heard of a few people using it and that it really works great as long as you use it according to the instructions.

 

[EOMoreno]

Ohh thats right, ill change the air filter tomorrow and i used NGK plugs with a .028 gap and the problem is i do have a check engine light on but the old owner cut tow wires to that plug thing that goes to the scanner soo i cant read the codes

ohh ok ill try those guaranteed to pass things but yeah it was on the top part of the spark plug. And how exactly do u check for exhaust leaks??? and by the way thanks for the help

 

[dsmtun3r98gst]

Wait the old owner cut some wires off from the OBD port?? why the heck would someone do that??? how where they able to smog your car?? cus if had some cut wires I don't see how the guy at the smog shop was able to get a response from your vehicle. By the way if you do have a check engine light on don't even bother going back to the smog shop before getting that thing fixed otherwise you are still not going to pass smog.

One other thing that I forgot to mention was that you can also clean your MAF(mass aiflow sensor) with either brake cleaner, or the recomended MAF cleaner that you can also get at any auto parts store. That will help you get lower numbers as well since the MAF will be able to read incoming air better.

You definetly need to get that fixed and find out what the code that you have. are you OBD 1 or OBD2?? not sure if 95's had OBD 2 already. If you were any closer I would have helped with reading the codes since I have a scanner just in case you didn't, or help you pass your smog.

 

[EOMoreno]

Yeah man i live by stockton and modesto and i see you stay down south But yeah, two wires are cut and its a OBD 1. Could i just re-soder the two wires together again??? And ok ill clean the MAF too, thanks for the help bro, i really appreciate it.

ohhhhh but the old owner did mention he did a 99 motor swap!! so does that change things?? and it seems the original motor was turboed because the guages has the turbo guage, and for some reason, i think im not sure, when i tried replacing the fuel filter, it was the turbo kind filter from what i seen in the haynes manual.

 

[dsmtun3r98gst]

Yeah resoldering the two wires should be fine. Just put some wire heat wrap on each as well to keep them from making contact. No worries man. Hopefully you can get thru your smog.

Yeah that would be like a 6 hrs drive to get here. But im sure there is more than one person aroud your area that are able to help. And from what I've heard pre-OBD 2 vehicles are easier to "pass smog". I beleive that there is a member here that owns a smog shop that might be able to help out and he might be somewhat closer to you. the only problem is that I forgot his DSMtuners name

Well you do have a 420 engine right?? I highly doubt that the previous owner went thru the trouble of swapping out the 420 for a 4G63T. It is not a direct swap, extensive custom work needs to be done as the 2 engines are totally different not to mention that they are also position opposite from one another.

 

[EOMoreno]

Ok ill try and resolder the two wires tomorrow and put some shrink tube on it. But how would i read the codes if i dont have a scanner?? and yeah if you could remember his name that would be great haha thanks tho for all the good info

ummm heres a picture of the engine bay.

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[dsmtun3r98gst]

Well there is one way to find out on how to have the car actually tell you what CEL codes are pending. Im unsure of the process but a quick search either on google, or in the search section of the site you might be able to find instructions on how to do it.

I know I've seen it somewhere around this site. And the only tool required is a simple paper clip.

This link right here shows you how to do it with an analog voltmeter:

http://www.extreme-check-engine-light-codes.com/Mitsubishi%20OBD1%20Decoder.htm

The title says 90-95 but the codes are for 90-94 so im unsure whether you can still make good use for it or if there is any difference.

 

[EOMoreno]

Ok ill try looking it up, hopefully it works and is simple but how would that tell me whats wrong or what codes im reading with a paperclip?? hmm well i guess ill have to find out a little

ohhh thanks! this going to help out alot! Anything else you recommend i do before smogging it again??

And well i have the haynes manual that tells me the codes soo i could try and compare some codes and see if they match right?

 

[dsmtun3r98gst]

Well the way it works is that you need to make 2 contacts points with the paper clip and your CEL light will flash. You need to count how many times it flashes and the you have to read what specific code those flasher are.

BTW yeah thats a 420 engine you got there, SO if you have a turbo gauge cluster that could explains as to why your speedometer might not work. But then again you said it was working before you did the tuneup correct?

I to ask this question but are you sure your eclipse is a 95?? cus from looking at the pics you have a 97-99 from bumper/headlights; unless the previous owner did the 97-99 swap then that would answer my question.

 

[EOMoreno]

well i just tried the link but it wouldnt open im guessing its not available anymore

 

[dsmtun3r98gst]

Hmm well thats weird. Just google "how to check obd1 codes for a mitsubishi" you should get a few links to some websites. It should be the first of the links.

 

[EOMoreno]

Yeah it was working before the tune up. But all the other guages do work still, the RPMS, the engine temp and gas but not the VSS. Maybe i loosened up the connection??
And ok will do, thanks
And well here are some more pics, i have no idea if this determines its a 95 or not but thats what the old owner said haha im not really sure

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[snowborder714]

well i just tried the link but it wouldnt open im guessing its not available anymore

Try the link from post #8 again. The URL was wrong in the post, so I just fixed it.

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

But yeah, two wires are cut and its a OBD 1. Could i just re-soder the two wires together again???

I thought ALL 2gs were OBD2. Am I missing something?

I did some searching into the issue as well and all I can find confirms that. Since you are posing pictures of stuff, post a picture of your OBD port.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/267582-obd1.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tuning-engine-management/188645-95-obd1-obd2.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/279665-resolved-yet-again-how-tell-build-date-95-gsx-obd1-obd2.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/420a-bolt-tech/207102-1995-ecus.html

 

[snowborder714]

I have never seen or heard of an OBDI 2g either.

If wires were cut to your OBDII port, you need to get them fixed.

 

[EOMoreno]

Ok i fixed the connections to OBD port and yeah i guess it is an OBD2, just the smog person said it was an OBDI. Thanks guys for the clearing up and interest. Now i just need to find a way to read the codes because today i did some more sensor cleaning but the check engine is still on
But yeah ill try the link, thanks.
And here is a picture of the OBD port

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[snowborder714]

Drive to nearest auto parts store that should have an OBDII scan tool you can borrow. Some places let you use the tool in the parking lot on your own and others are protective about it and will do everything for you.

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

Ok i fixed the connections to OBD port and yeah i guess it is an OBD2, just the smog person said it was an OBDI. Thanks guys for the clearing up and interest. Now i just need to find a way to read the codes because today i did some more sensor cleaning but the check engine is still on
But yeah ill try the link, thanks.

Well since you have a 420a you can count the flashes. Check out this thread for more info: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/290324-how-do-you-read-codes-2g-without-scan-tool.html

 

[EOMoreno]

Yeah ill try going these to auto shops close by and see if theyll be cool enough and let me see the codes. But if not ill try and count the blinks. But ok, i get how it works LONG blinks are the first number, SHORT blinks are the second number, but where do i see these blinks?? and how do i make it blink out the codes?? What if i have lots of bad codes??

 

[snowborder714]

From my knowledge, the "counting the blinks" only works for 1g's. 2g's have it easy as we can just go borrow the scan tool, where auto shops have nothing to read OBDI error codes.

 

[EOMoreno]

Ohhh ok then, ill just try to plug a scanner into it and read the codes, thanks. But ive also heard of the turn the ignition key and count the check engine blinks, im trying to look it up but i cant find how to do it, maybe it is only for an OBDI

 

[snowborder714]

According to VFAQ, what you're questioning about is for 1g vehicles only.
ECU Code Checking

 

[EOMoreno]

OHHH ok thanks for clearing that up for me, really appreciate it
Soo when checking the codes, it tells me what sensors and this and that is malfunctioning right?? so should i just replace whats wrong and will that make the codes and check engine go away??

 

[snowborder714]

Here's a list of codes, or you can plug the code into the search feature here and figure out what needs fixed.
Visual Frequently Answered Questions - Home Page

Yes, just place what is causing the issues and the code will go away.