Official Bench Racing Thread (how fast is my car/how much HP can I expect)

[831gst831]

ohhh and one more question do i need to re wire my fuel pump??

 

[Dyesuperman]

ohhh and one more question do i need to re wire my fuel pump??

I wouldn't hurt to do so. Its pretty cheap and easy

 

[My2gGSX]

Yea can probly BLOW YOURSELF UP

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

Don't forget stickers. 10 HP per sticker.

 

[my dreamt dsm]

To everyone else, please don't heckle people who post in this thread. Maybe if it stays silent enough they'll realize it's not worth asking vague questions.

Waiting for my hks hi power. Hoping to net mid 14's. I don't want to get embarrassed by my buddies type r swaps, and single cam vtec turbo's.

edit:
Just realize. From now on I am asserting the word HOPE with BENCH RACING!

 

[tEi Vp DsM]

thank god for a thread like this!!! its like saying hey,i have 50 stickers on my car of things i dont have and i get 5hp per sticker!!! gotta love it....if the car is not put together properly and has no good tune or tune at all, dont expect much... and if you cant drive,well then your just in trouble!!!!

 

[Billiam]

With that much hp you will have to multiply your speed on the speedometer by 10!!

 

[rashan]

This thread could have been useful if people weren't being immature.. it wasn't made so everyone and their grandma could come on and pretend to be on the set of jackass..


Some ppl say that the dyno thread was meant for this, but the only thing I can do on there is see that 3 other gs-t's and a galant made low to mid 300's with td05-18g. I have a td06-18g so already that doesn't tell me much.

I'll try to make a go at it and see if I can get some serious responses..


I'm hoping for 400 hp (or close to it) eventually. Is this possible with my setup? Or am I missing a few things?

Running a '97 GS-T w/ a TD06-18G, Greddy S bov, safc, evo8 560cc injectors. Also hard lower/upper IC and pre-turbo piping w/ cone filter and no air can (typical setup).

The fuel pump SOUNDS like an aftermarket, but I haven't had a chance to check it so I'm not really sure (the previous owner did some things to the car. I plan on doing a rewire and will check the pump when I do so). If it's not I'm thinking about a 255 with an afpr. Going for an FMIC in near future as well as an evo8 ecu (and removing the safc), evo8 maf, 3" dp/high flow cat/exhaust and ported 02 housing.

Considering lightened flywheel, and def. need advice on clutch/pressure plate (7 bolt) I can't afford crank walk (The neutral safety switch is disabled).

Also thinking if the car gods allow, mild porting (tb,intake,head,exaust,turbo,02 housing), 1G throttle body, forged pistons, rings, rods, valves, springs, retainers, and cams.

I don't know if I've missed anything, but as I said, I'm shooting for the 400 hp mark (or as close to it as I can get).


I've tuned as much as I can w/ my laptop and the safc.. the evo8 ecu will hopefully be on the way for xmas Then just need a copy of evoscan...

Thanks to anybody who gives me a serious answer.
-Jeremy

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

With that much hp you will have to multiply your speed on the speedometer by 10!!

This is true becasue the speedometer needle will go all the way around 10 times so you have to multiply it by 10.

 

[HaveBlue83]

This thread could have been useful if people weren't being immature.. it wasn't made so everyone and their grandma could come on and pretend to be on the set of jackass..


Some ppl say that the dyno thread was meant for this, but the only thing I can do on there is see that 3 other gs-t's and a galant made low to mid 300's with td05-18g. I have a td06-18g so already that doesn't tell me much.

I'll try to make a go at it and see if I can get some serious responses..

I'm hoping for 400 hp (or close to it) eventually. Is this possible with my setup? Or am I missing a few things?

Running a '97 GS-T w/ a TD06-18G, Greddy S bov, safc, evo8 560cc injectors. Also hard lower/upper IC and pre-turbo piping w/ cone filter and no air can (typical setup).

The fuel pump SOUNDS like an aftermarket, but I haven't had a chance to check it so I'm not really sure (the previous owner did some things to the car. I plan on doing a rewire and will check the pump when I do so). If it's not I'm thinking about a 255 with an afpr. Going for an FMIC in near future as well as an evo8 ecu (and removing the safc), evo8 maf, 3" dp/high flow cat/exhaust and ported 02 housing.

Considering lightened flywheel, and def. need advice on clutch/pressure plate (7 bolt) I can't afford crank walk (The neutral safety switch is disabled).

Also thinking if the car gods allow, mild porting (tb,intake,head,exaust,turbo,02 housing), 1G throttle body, forged pistons, rings, rods, valves, springs, retainers, and cams.

I don't know if I've missed anything, but as I said, I'm shooting for the 400 hp mark (or as close to it as I can get).


I've tuned as much as I can w/ my laptop and the safc.. the evo8 ecu will hopefully be on the way for xmas Then just need a copy of evoscan...

Thanks to anybody who gives me a serious answer.
-Jeremy

lightweight Flywheel is FUN. revs insanely quick. and revs drops instantly. its crazy. get rid of the weight when u do a clutch. i am running an 8lb fidenza 2.1 street clutch. its fine for me. you may need more if you are launching it. i'd go stronger. but pucks are touchy. stay with carbon/kevlar mix (street disc).

u need DSMlink. the SAFC will be OK, but it cant control the knock and everything like DSMlink can. link makes the CEL the knock light and it flashes and you will KNOW when its knocking. then if it is you can go in and adjust your timing and advance it back a few till it doesnt knock. the SAFC is just that a SUPER Air/fuel Controller. not timing and knock. and that's what kills rods on a stock 7bolt easily.

for FMIC i would go VRSF. large core and SHORTEST route. also they have good clamps (I hear). you NEED a FMIC for even a 16g or you will heat soak that shit quick.

I like the HKS BOV. i hear others leak. mine doesn't leak i have an old one and it seems to do ANYTHING but leak.

AFPR....eh...i keep hearing yes and no. last thing i heard is with Link you should be fine as it's controlling all that with injector size and what its flowing. maybe if you have a BIG setup you may need one. i am gonna try mine without it first and see how link does with it.

that's what i know.

i'm a newb, but i try. (my E316g is on a shelf, but i am learning everything i can NOW)

P.S., don't shoot for a power number, shoot for a good tune and a well trimmed out car. don't kill yourself trying to get 10hp.

 

[rashan]

lightweight Flywheel is FUN. revs insanely quick. and revs drops instantly. its crazy. get rid of the weight when u do a clutch. i am running an 8lb fidenza 2.1 street clutch. its fine for me. you may need more if you are launching it. i'd go stronger. but pucks are touchy. stay with carbon/kevlar mix (street disc).

u need DSMlink. the SAFC will be OK, but it cant control the knock and everything like DSMlink can. link makes the CEL the knock light and it flashes and you will KNOW when its knocking. then if it is you can go in and adjust your timing and advance it back a few till it doesnt knock. the SAFC is just that a SUPER Air/fuel Controller. not timing and knock. and that's what kills rods on a stock 7bolt easily.

for FMIC i would go VRSF. large core and SHORTEST route. also they have good clamps (I hear). you NEED a FMIC for even a 16g or you will heat soak that shit quick.

I like the HKS BOV. i hear others leak. mine doesn't leak i have an old one and it seems to do ANYTHING but leak.

AFPR....eh...i keep hearing yes and no. last thing i heard is with Link you should be fine as it's controlling all that with injector size and what its flowing. maybe if you have a BIG setup you may need one. i am gonna try mine without it first and see how link does with it.

that's what i know.

i'm a newb, but i try. (my E316g is on a shelf, but i am learning everything i can NOW)

P.S., don't shoot for a power number, shoot for a good tune and a well trimmed out car. don't kill yourself trying to get 10hp.

HAHA yeah I just want to be able to make the most use out of the 18g (no real numerical goal). As for the safc as I said, it's leaving in favor of an evo8 ecu and evoscan (and the ecu flashing cable), shouldn't need dsmlink then should I?

I'm still running the postage-stamp size smic, I don't often heatsoak it as I don't really push the car right now (scared to without an fmic) but I know if I pass a car on the highway it doesn't take much at all to go 40 to 90 mph and leave the other car in the rear view.. I have more of an issue with traction than heatsoak Thx for the reply, will write down what you've said

 

[HaveBlue83]

cool. and yeah, with evoscan if it all works that should set you up just fine.

i have been researching for awhile. im actually trying to do my install with EVERYTHING i need so i read a lot on do's and dont's. check and see if those 560's are enough if you really push up the boost. i just got 750's. i dont wanna change them once they are in.

hope it works for ya!

 

[rashan]

cool. and yeah, with evoscan if it all works that should set you up just fine.

i have been researching for awhile. im actually trying to do my install with EVERYTHING i need so i read a lot on do's and dont's. check and see if those 560's are enough if you really push up the boost. i just got 750's. i dont wanna change them once they are in.

hope it works for ya!

heh thanks!
Yeah I'm not 100% the 560's will be enough once I turn the boost up all the way, but for what I'm doing with it for now it seems to work out alright, that and I got the set from a buddy for $20 so not gonna complain

 

[FROMxAxDIG]

"P.S., don't shoot for a power number, shoot for a good tune and a well trimmed out car. don't kill yourself trying to get 10hp.

"

I gotta tell you this is the best advise ive seen in a while. I sometimes think people believe that a 500 HP car is faster than a better tuned 350 HP car. Tune is Everything, when it comes to really bringing out the best of the car (or yourself). I think people should learn to drive their car fast, before they actually make it fast.

 

[dsmtwins2g]

This thread would be nice if every jack-off on the site didn't post bullshit. It would be nice if experinced guys could give some noobs a ballpark of what they are gonna run/put down. But no, every tom dick and harry that thinks they know somthing has gotta say some dumb shit.

Anyway.

2.0 Eagle Wiseco, Hks 272 with Evo 8 beehives, 1g Intake, twin scroll t3 8 blade HX35 in a 20cm housing, E85, front mount with 2.5" piping , 3" turbo back , speed density, 25 psi 12.5:1 afr's 19* timing

What should it make/run. I think 450ish whp, and mid 11's.

The chassis has a built trans, AGX with prokit, and weighs 3350

i agree 100%.i was hoping this thread would be serious guess not.

 

[2GbTalonGuy]

How could this thread possibly be serious? It is NOT POSSIBLE for anyone to guess what kind of power you will be making by posting what mods you have or plan to get. The sooner you n00bs realize that, the better.

 

[kidtsi]

2ga to 2gb conversion? any hp gain? jk. Seriously i'm with the guy above^

 

[TaylorGang]

My current mods are.. Injen intake with Greddy Type rs BOV, Full magna flow exhaust, manual boost controller, Dnp manifold, previous owner said he had 1000 dollars into sloyboys racing redoing the heads?? Nevermind ignore that part im going to email him and get more info. Im currently running 17 PSI perfect.. I run 93 Octane all the time and drive once every three days Spring, summer, and fall not in winter. I have an automatic transmission. This coming april i will have enough money for 16G evo turbo setup with DSMlink or ceddy mod with injectors and 255 walbro fuel pump.. How much HP gains are possible with this. Last but not least theres 100,XXX miles on engine but in very very good condition. Thanks

 

[LiquidX]

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/new...how-fast-my-car-how-much-hp-can-i-expect.html


Please search and read over the rules you agreed to.

 

[96awd]

Depends on tuning. Many people on 16g's have gotten quite a bit of power out of them 400+whp.

Oh, Taylor Gang or die! hah

 

[morelock]

do you have the stock turbo on it?

 

[TaylorGang]

Yeah, right now I have the 14b in it.

Taylor gang over everything

 

[morelock]

hey just do what all the honda guys do take the hood off i heard it takes like 3 sec off 1/4 mile times

 

[jcactus101]

So I'm not expecting to know how much horsepower I'll get after such and such mods...

I haven't picked up my DSM yet (bought it long distance from a family member), and I'm curious as to what kind of whp they put out in stock form... I've read 210 at the crank, but does anyone know what I can expect to get to the wheels?

 

[SpawnedX]

178.5 if everything is in perfect working order. Based on the commonly accepted 15% drivetrain loss on an AWD.