o2 housing help ( which unit to pick)

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Yet another o2 housing question I know but I've searched and not quite found the perfect answer.

So I'm looking to buy an o2 housing in the black Friday sales so I've not got much time left but I've got stuck on my choices! I'm looking at punishment racing ss and maperformance ss housing all recirc but both have the bung way up on top and I've read about the sensor hitting the water pipe! And I'm not willing to dent it to make it fit. I don't want to spend 300 on the jmfab unit as i had a budget and 200 ish is more then enough! The original choice was PR due to the lifetime warranty but since reading the sensor problems, I'm now stuck and don't know what to do.

the last thing I want to do is buy a unit get it shipped to the UK and for it to cause me hassle!!!

So anyone if you can help that would be great! If anyone has pics with either units installed would help aswell so i can see how close it is to the water pipe and where its likely to sit once installed

Thanks for the help.

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

A lot of times there is no perfect answer. Check out these two threads:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/400945-punishment-racing-vs-map-o2-housing.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/368506-best-recirculating-o2-housing.html

The MAP unit seems to give more clearance over the PR one. The PR one uses larger flanges which some prefer. You would have more room with a MVS gate then the standard Tial on either piece. I don't think you would have fitment problems with the o2 sensor on either one because the factory 1g o2 housings place the o2 sensor in the same location. At the end of the day they are both great pieces and the choice is up to you.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

I've read them both and many others like it but thanks for them. I'm not going MVS just normal recirc!!! Also what's this about the 1g housing? That lost me a little bit . Do you think I could get the bung welded lower like the jmfab if i asked them before they built it? Would they do this or is it risky as they might not put it in the best place.


Just realised about why your quoting the 1g housing!!! Thanks for that hidden answer haha

I don't think i care about the flanges but the warranty on the PR helps a lot I think.

Thanks for your help Nathan

 

[Bud92gsx]

Actually guys I thought the 1g sensor was at the top .. And the 2g sensor is at the bottom..Stock housing..

But the supporting vendors probably put the sensor bung wherever they want on the aftemerket ones..

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Actually guys I thought the 1g sensor was at the top .. And the 2g sensor is at the bottom..Stock housing..

But the supporting vendors probably put the sensor bung wherever they want on the aftemerket ones..

I'm not sure on the 1g housings but yeah the 2g there at the bottom! Does the location do anything to the fueling system? I mean if mitsubishi moved it lower maybe it was for a good reason! Just not wanting it to run any different if its too close to the turbo outlet.

 

[Bud92gsx]

I actually have a 1g housing sitting a couple feet in front of me right now..In my living room..And yeah its at the top..

So if your going with an aftermarket I would check to see where the bung is located..If you want it at the bottom, find one where they put it at the bottom..So you will just have to check with the vendors and see where the bung is located..

EDIT: I just took a look at PR 02 housings..It looks like depending on the one you want, they have the bung either on top or at the bottom..The mild steel one was at the top, and the stianless one was at the bottom..

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

I actually have a 1g housing sitting a couple feet in front of me right now..In my living room..And yeah its at the top..

So if your going with an aftermarket I would check to see where the bung is located..If you want it at the bottom, find one where they put it at the bottom..So you will just have to check with the vendors and see where the bung is located..

EDIT: I just took a look at PR 02 housings..It looks like depending on the one you want, they have the bung either on top or at the bottom..The mild steel one was at the top, and the stianless one was at the bottom..

Hmm that's weird as all the pics I've seen of the ss housing the bung is on top! And that's what worrys me. I might just ask to have it welded in or as close to stock location but want them to check it before they ship it out for fitment etc. I'm sure they would be ok with that

 

[gofer]

I've heard of the front o2 sensor clearance issues as well but never had one myself, I installed the sensor BEFORE installing the o2 housing though. I recommend the PR o2 and install the sensor prior to installing the housing, don't forget to smear gray anti-seize on the threads!

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

I've heard of the front o2 sensor clearance issues as well but never had one myself, I installed the sensor BEFORE installing the o2 housing though. I recommend the PR o2 and install the sensor prior to installing the housing, don't forget to smear gray anti-seize on the threads!

So what happens when i have to change it I'm multi taking it off to change the sensor! I'm just going to get it welded near to the stock location. Seems a better idea to me. I'm also wondering if mitsubishi changed the location of it for a reason?? Maybe for better readings or to make the sensor last longer? Not found any thing on that yet though. And why grey seize??? Won't copper slip be ok for this??

But i think its going to be punishments housing plus I get the warranty for life. And that's always a good thing to have!

Thanks for the help.

 

[LiquidX]

I have the PR MVS housing and changing the sensor isn't hard as long as you have an o2 socket.

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

Actually guys I thought the 1g sensor was at the top .. And the 2g sensor is at the bottom..Stock housing.

That is what I was saying. The OP had concerns about it hitting the water pipe, which would only be an issue at the top, which is how it comes from the factory on the 1g o2 housing. The 2g housing has it at the bottom which is what he is used to seeing (since he has a 2g).

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And why grey seize??? Won't copper slip be ok for this??

Copper anti-seize will work just fine, that is what I use on all my turbo/02 sensor bolts.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

That is what I was saying. The OP had concerns about it hitting the water pipe, which would only be an issue at the top, which is how it comes from the factory on the 1g o2 housing. The 2g housing has it at the bottom which is what he is used to seeing (since he has a 2g).

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Copper anti-seize will work just fine, that is what I use on all my turbo/02 sensor bolts.

Yes the main concern was is if I'm going to hit it and if i should get it welded lower when i order! And I thought copper slip was ok as i use that on my turbo section also.

So what should I do? Do i take a risk or just get it welded lower to be safe! People have said its fine but there not all made that same. Why is it so difficult just to buy 1 item . I just want it to be perfect that's all! I blame my self.

 

[gofer]

So what happens when i have to change it I'm multi taking it off to change the sensor! I'm just going to get it welded near to the stock location. Seems a better idea to me. I'm also wondering if mitsubishi changed the location of it for a reason?? Maybe for better readings or to make the sensor last longer? Not found any thing on that yet though. And why grey seize??? Won't copper slip be ok for this??

But i think its going to be punishments housing plus I get the warranty for life. And that's always a good thing to have!

Thanks for the help.

I haven't had to cross that bridge yet, if worst comes to worst though, pulling the o2 housing every 5 years when I need to replace the o2 sensor isn't that bad. Better then denting the waterpipe, at least I think so.

Copper is great, if you've got it. I use Permatex Grey Anti Seize because its readily available at AutoZone, they never seem to have copper, and its still good to 1600*.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

There all at the top where as jmfab is at the bottom out in front!

Well i thank you all for your help guys I was really at a lost end as I've read everything I could find on this. I think the best bet is to do what i said and get it welded in the stock 2g location. That way I know its safe and won't hit anything!

I did read the review on the product that a member wrote on his bep m-trim turbo and it looked close on the installed pics but still had enough room to move around.

 

[gofer]

There all at the top where as jmfab is at the bottom out in front!

Well i thank you all for your help guys I was really at a lost end as I've read everything I could find on this. I think the best bet is to do what i said and get it welded in the stock 2g location. That way I know its safe and won't hit anything!

I did read the review on the product that a member wrote on his bep m-trim turbo and it looked close on the installed pics but still had enough room to move around.

Before you drop your money on the o2 housing I can walk out to my car right now and take a picture of the o2 housing/sensor clearance on the waterpipe.

I've got a PR o2 housing...

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

I haven't had to cross that bridge yet, if worst comes to worst though, pulling the o2 housing every 5 years when I need to replace the o2 sensor isn't that bad. Better then denting the waterpipe, at least I think so.

Copper is great, if you've got it. I use Permatex Grey Anti Seize because its readily available at AutoZone, they never seem to have copper, and its still good to 1600*.

I see your point us not like its gong to come off that much and once installed should be a while! Could you take a pic for me so i can see what I'm looking at on how close it is please gofer thanks

Before you drop your money on the o2 housing I can walk out to my car right now and take a picture of the o2 housing/sensor clearance on the waterpipe.

I've got a PR o2 housing...

Haha you wrote that as i was just about to ask. That would be great if you could. Thanks

 

[gofer]

I took a few pictures, good news is that I won't have to deal with clearance issues when it comes time to remove the o2 sensor. I've got a good 1/2" from the sensor to the waterpipe...

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From the side.

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[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Thanks for the pics Corey much appreciated seems ok to me.

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

so after some more research i found out i cannot locate it in the stock 2g location!!! as the recirc pipe comes in pretty much right where i need the bung. so when i order im going to get it moved over a little bit more towards the recirc tube, this way it will move it more straight up and give me a bit more room to move only if its an extra few mm its better then hitting the pipe.

 

[gofer]

Why do you still think its going to hit the pipe? I took those pictures for you so you could see that my oxygen sensor clears just fine threaded into the PR o2 housing.

 

[punishment]

I've never heard of anyone having clearance issues with the o2 sensor on our hand built o2 housings. If anyone ever did have that problem we would have taken care of it immediately if notified about it.

We used to sell a cheap imported recirculated o2 housing on Ebay, and I know a few of those had that very issue which is why we discontinued it.

If you have any questions or concerns shoot us an email to [email protected] and I will make sure you get the exact o2 sensor placement that you prefer.

Tim
Punishment Racing

 

[FIBA M - EC17PSE]

Why do you still think its going to hit the pipe? I took those pictures for you so you could see that my oxygen sensor clears just fine threaded into the PR o2 housing.

It's possibly not that its going to hit it now! It's that its very close, closer then I really want. As I said I'm just fussy , I guess if you and punishment are happy it fits then i shall let down my concern and just keep the bung in the location it comes in.

I just want it to be perfect that's all nothing wrong with that hehe.

I've never heard of anyone having clearance issues with the o2 sensor on our hand built o2 housings. If anyone ever did have that problem we would have taken care of it immediately if notified about it.

We used to sell a cheap imported recirculated o2 housing on Ebay, and I know a few of those had that very issue which is why we discontinued it.

If you have any questions or concerns shoot us an email to [email protected] and I will make sure you get the exact o2 sensor placement that you prefer.

Tim
Punishment Racing

I understand TIM and thanks for chimeing in on this. The concern came after I read about it and there comment was I didn't bother asking them to fix it so I bent my pipe! But if you say its good then i trust you. I was possibly only going to get it moved over a few more mm away from the water pipe anyway but I think I will just leave it where you normally locate it.

Thanks for the help and you can be sure to have my order when the black Friday sales start.