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Notchy Clutch Pedal

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'93Talon

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Sep 22, 2009
Boiling Springs, North Carolina
Car is a 93 Talon DL

This is a very weird problem to me. I have replaced the master, slave and even had shephard trans rebuild my pedal assembly, but the problem still exists. Any time you press the clutch pedal it feels ok until you get close to the bottom when the pedal gets a notchy feeling and becomes noticibly more stiff. It could also be described as a popping feeling. You have to go past this point to be able to shift into any gear.

Also, when you are cruising around the tranny shifts smooth (minus the notchy pedal). If you are accelerating or braking hard, the pedal becomes soft and when you press it to the floor it feels like the clutch doesn't disengage and therefore it will grind going into gear.

When the car is sitting and you put it in first with the pedal down, you can rev all day long and the clutch does not pull the car forward or backwards, so that is good news. Also, when you are bleeding the clutch, the pedal is perfectly smooth, so that could be good?

What would cause this problem? Bad clutch? TOB? Fork? Linkage?
 
The housing around your input shaft might have grooves where the release bearing slides in and out, and that wil cause the poping feeling. The softness may be the transmission falling off the engine, or wicked crankwalk, but it's probably falling off.
 
The housing around your input shaft might have grooves where the release bearing slides in and out, and that wil cause the poping feeling. The softness may be the transmission falling off the engine, or wicked crankwalk, but it's probably falling off.

falling off? please explain. I am pretty sure the tranny is bolted up to the motor. LOL
 
The master rod is all the way out. Does it need any other adjusting from there?

The throwout bearing collar on most transmissions rides on the input shaft tube, which houses the input shaft.

the throwout bearing collar has a grooved inner section where you're supposed to put grease before reassembly, but often people dont. This isn't a huge issue.

The issue is probably the rod being adjusted all the way out on your clutch pedal causing the throwout bearing collar to go all the way to the end of the tube, and one of the grooves catches the end of the tube and creates a notchy feel, quite like having a gouged input shaft tube. Same feeling.

The reason why it does not get stuck at the end of the tube is due to the fact that the diaphragm on the pressure plate has a lot more pressure than what's needed to push the throwout bearing collar back over the edge of the input shaft tube.

I know this happens on some cars, so try backing out your clutch pedal rod a bit and see if it goes away. you may be used to going to the floor with the pedal when shifting, but you could be maxing out the slave cylinder travel way before you get your foot to the floor anyway.

back it up a bit and see if it goes away.
 
The throwout bearing collar on most transmissions rides on the input shaft tube, which houses the input shaft.

the throwout bearing collar has a grooved inner section where you're supposed to put grease before reassembly, but often people dont. This isn't a huge issue.

The issue is probably the rod being adjusted all the way out on your clutch pedal causing the throwout bearing collar to go all the way to the end of the tube, and one of the grooves catches the end of the tube and creates a notchy feel, quite like having a gouged input shaft tube. Same feeling.

The reason why it does not get stuck at the end of the tube is due to the fact that the diaphragm on the pressure plate has a lot more pressure than what's needed to push the throwout bearing collar back over the edge of the input shaft tube.

I know this happens on some cars, so try backing out your clutch pedal rod a bit and see if it goes away. you may be used to going to the floor with the pedal when shifting, but you could be maxing out the slave cylinder travel way before you get your foot to the floor anyway.

back it up a bit and see if it goes away.

what I am saying is the master cylinder rod is backed all the way out to get the most travel. maybe I will try to put it in some and see if the problem gets worse.
 
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