Noob's DNP vs FP manifold

[my dreamt dsm]

Aight guys, I'm wondering will a DNP manifold be better for me or a FP manifold? I did a search and came up that if i was doing track regularly, dnp would be for me. But if it's mainly on the streets as in daily driven and some track. The FP manifold would be for me!
What are the pro's and cons for the manifolds... mods are in my profile... hks carbon exhaust on the way!
Is there a reason one manifold is chosen over the other for example... one's more effective at higher rpm then the other or one spools faster then the other, etc!

Stupid reason but I need one so I could keep up with the rest of my buddies dsm's.
OR IS THIS MOD EVEN NEEDED YET!

 

[imagine3163]

OR IS THIS MOD EVEN NEEDED YET!

You are no where near needing this mod. The stock 2g manifold is more than you need right now.

 

[my dreamt dsm]

You are no where near needing this mod. The stock 2g manifold is more than you need right now.

yeah, i was thinking of something like that!

but what will be the better one though, just for 1/4 mile

 

[imagine3163]

DNP vs. FP

 

[rush2252]

tubular manifolds run higher engine temps than cast. And from what ive read the 2g manis are good to 400hp Most people rock the tubulars for eye candy but they can also melt fans and cause underhood temps to increase. Carbon fiber hoods to turn yellow etc


Kolby

 

[my dreamt dsm]

DNP vs. FP

Yeah bro, that was the one I was reading. But this is just gonna be on a stock t small till i plan to run t28 or killer still deciding. The reason I asked was because he has an upgraded turbo and I thought it might effect it different on a stock turbo.

Yeah the other 50 percent is EYE CANDY... that's a good way to put it Kolby!

 

[rush2252]

if you wanna hang why not put on a 14b or small 16g up the boost to 14-15psi depending on fuel cut and if you have a data logger. You can find one cheaper than an aftermarket mani and it will help more in the long run

 

[my dreamt dsm]

if you wanna hang why not put on a 14b or small 16g up the boost to 14-15psi depending on fuel cut and if you have a data logger. You can find one cheaper than an aftermarket mani and it will help more in the long run

the man with the plan... sounds good.

But i just want to extract as much hp out of the t small before tossing it...

Back to OP, is there any real difference on a t small with either mani???

Now i know the stock will hold hp, will buying the mani GAIN me hp?

 

[rush2252]

No.. you will not feel noticable gains from a mani on a t25. Toss it if your wanting a economical upgrade path. Upping the boost usually shortens their life span drastically.

Buy a 14b and mbc for what youll spend on the mani and youll still have enough cash to take your girl to mcds and a movie

Kolby

 

[kawboy]

The collector design on a DNP (if you want to call it that) is TRASH

I actually upgraded from a ported DNP to a FP race, and wouldn't look back

 

[PIMking]

I've had both and use the FP manifold now...

 

[my dreamt dsm]

thanks for the relpys ya'll. made me feel better and make me think my buddies are screwed. so i guess i be getting the fp big 28 wid the mani later down the road. any objections.
i've been reading on the big 28 and i think it's for me...
just looking for low 13's and 1/4 tracks once a month!

 

[whiteflash]

I've got a DNP mani for sale, pm me...

 

[kawboy]

Skip the t28, go with a 16g

 

[My1GLaser]

Skip the t28, go with a 16g

And make sure its an MHI Evo III 16g and you won't be disappointed for a small street turbo.

 

[booostedGSX]

+1 on the MHI Evo III.

As far as eye candy goes, I think the FP manifolds are sexy.

 

[My1GLaser]

+1 on the MHI Evo III.

As far as eye candy goes, I think the FP manifolds are sexy.

They definitely are. I'm seriously considering getting one since they are only $199. Some VHT paint and it will stay good looking, since FP no longer coats them. I'm gonna see how my recently coated O2 housing holds up with the VHT before I do it.

 

[fergulus]

If you want it coated, spend $80 of the $100 you saved by not having FP coat the manifold and have it ceramic coated! Or if you are feeling even more adventurous, go and get it Swain Coated. I had my new FP mani black ceramic coated and damn if it doesnt look sexy.

 

[Calan]

You're a LONNNNGGGGG way from needing to worry about an exhaust manifold. Your car came from the factory with an exhaust manifold that is a well known upgrade for us 1G'ers.

After you've got all your maintenance done...

Trade the Autometer Cobalt Air/ fuel narrowband, Black Greddy turbo timer, and Apexi Rev Meter for a good used Chilton or Haynes manual, invest in some logging/tuning software, and then start working on a MHI E316g setup with supporting mods. That will keep you busy for at least a year, and can push you into the 300-350 awhp range quite easily with some experience and a good tune.

Spend your time and money on knowledge...not unecessary parts

 

[Hcaruso4]

ive heard and personally experienced only great things with the fp manifold

 

[pboglio]

For the money, I see no risk in getting the FP exhaust manifold whenever you feel like it, its only $200.

 

[Calan]

For the money, I see no risk in getting the FP exhaust manifold whenever you feel like it, its only $200.

I agree there's no risk, but bolting a race manifold onto his otherwise stock car at this point is just silly IMO, (unless he's got money and is doing a lot of other stuff also). It looks like he doesn't even have a logger yet.

I can think of several things that his $200 could be put towards before he needs to worry about his manifold...fuel, cams, turbo, etc etc.

 

[my dreamt dsm]

I agree there's no risk, but bolting a race manifold onto his otherwise stock car at this point is just silly IMO, (unless he's got money and is doing a lot of other stuff also). It looks like he doesn't even have a logger yet.

I can think of several things that his $200 could be put towards before he needs to worry about his manifold...fuel, cams, turbo, etc etc.

good point, all of you!
one thing that confuse me is that the fpbig 28 is more expensive then the mhi big 16g... but doesn't the saying go... more expensive is better! the reason why i was looking at the 28 was that it was a direct bolt on aight. but also peeps saying that wid the money spent on the 28 could have the 16g bolt up with the kit... so im debating big/ headache.
also, when does the logger comes into play, im more of the do and learn myself guy because im one of the few that likes and is learning to do a dsm where im from.

I don't want to work around the t small and then later buy another turbo and find that i have to redo my mods cause it wasn't suit for the 16g or big28.
shouldn't i work around my turbo instead?
thnks for all the replys so far... every noob needs some schooling. im sure u guys were here once!
IM STARTING TO FEEL THE DSM LOVE!!! yessss!

 

[pboglio]

If I where to do it again, I would have bypassed the T28 and bought the EVOIII 16g instead. Since I've run both, EVOIII 16g hands down. There is an upgrade path somewhere around here, I do things a little different then most myself. There is no wrong or right way if the parts are proven, the FP manifold is proven, add it when you like.

 

[dylnwit]

The point of the logger is to see how much you're pushing your injectors, if the IDC is under 80% at wot in 3rd gear (full pull), then you can add a few more psi. With a 2g, generally a good path is exhaust, logger, 1g bov, mbc w/gauge, turbo (ex. 14g or 16g), wideband 02, safc and injectors. At that point, you'll know enough to go from there on your own.

That's my $.02 so take it for what it's worth to you.