No Difference Between Ethanol and Methanol?

[JaxTalonTSi]

Is this true? David Buschur claims there is no difference. Thoughts?

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[delta448]

Can't read that small... what's the address?
Or is it something from NABR that not everyone is allowed to see / you shouldn't be linking here anyway?

edit: I don't use facebook, or have full access to NABR. Maybe OP could host on a photo site and link it?

 

[AndrewD5418]

Can't read that small... what's the address?

Looks like his facebook.

 

[JaxTalonTSi]

Can't read that small... what's the address?
Or is it something from NABR that not everyone is allowed to see / you shouldn't be linking here anyway?

Sorry for the image quality guys. It seems that Tuner's won't let me enlarge the picture anymore. This is somthing I have permission to post, idk what you mean.

It is from David Buschur's Facebook. His text reads:

What do you need to know about Methanol? I've done quite a bit of Ethanol, same thing

So tuning for Ethanol is the same as tuning for Methanol? I'm confused

 

[Rob10_99]

Article:Methanol -- Ethanol's Sister Product - PESWiki

 

[delta448]

It is from David Buschur's Facebook.

See edit.

His text reads:
So tuning for Ethanol is the same as tuning for Methanol? I'm confused

I highly doubt it.
Different stoich AFR, different octane equivalent, etc.

 

[DougR]

Lets say this. I generaly run upwards of 2 gallons of E-85 in my S-10, Its a NA Carb'd 4.3 built to the max, pushing upwards of 15* base timing with a total advance of 36* (mechanical, vacume advance distributor), with 10.8 compression. This is my DD atm. Talons getting more mods.

With the ehtanol based Fuel I have No problems with my carb. Then one day I decided against the 20 minute drive to the gas station with the E-85 and decided to run 4 bottles of pure methanol. the standard yellow bottle of HEET De-icer that you get at any auto store. Yes its 100% meth.
Not the red bottle mix of 50% meth and 50% glycol.
Anyways, after about 2 days of driving this stuff. My idle mixture circut in my carb clogged.. upon inspection. It had eaten away at the bare aluminum carb body.
Understand I have been running e-85 in this same setup for over a year now with absolutly NO problems at all (Being the tinkerer that I am, I'm in my carb ALOT! so i know the symptoms when I see it). Along with being 2 gallons of E-85 vs not even one gallon of pure meth..
The stuff is HIGHLY corrosive.
I knew it was corrosive just didnt think it was as bad as it actually is.

With a system built for pure alcohol. You wont have any problems. But for a DD. Donot try and run large amounts of pure meth.
You will have problems. The performance gains are just not worth it.

My 2cents.

 

[turboglenn]

The last thing i'd say is "there's no difference" while they may be similar there's a good amoutn of difference, especially in raw form, ethanol (when pure) can be consume...methanol cannot )unless you want to die that is)

but other than methanol disspating more heat i believe and needing more to make the same amount of evenrgy they are very similar in their traits as a fuel

 

[Defiant]

It's not on this site, so we really don't much care. If you do, join the relevant site and post there.