New filter on the market (AEM DRYFLOW)

[definitiveno]

http://trucks.aempower.com/dryflow/SWRIresults_9inchdryflow_newandcleaned.pdf

http://trucks.aempower.com/press_events_detail.asp?aid=54


What do the wisemen think?

 

[Jason84]

looks pretty good to me...

only thing i dont like is it uses 2 WHOLE bottles of "AEM air filter cleaner"
and whats the price for that stuff ?? versus a K&N cleaning kit which lasts pretty long.

turbo filters suck up ALOT more then na cars air filters so our filters need to be cleaned alot more then normal.

depending on the price of the filter and cleaning solution... all depends on that.



other thing is there is a plastic little filter reinforement in there... if something was to crack that.. turbo would suck it right in and there goes the turbo...

 

[definitiveno]

I found the filter I wanted (4 inch opening, 9 inches in leangth) at summit for 44 bucks


I'll look into the cleaning solution though....

 

[Jason84]

what kind of WG are you running ? gotta be carefull with the big filters... they let alot of air in.. friend had a big filter like that with the PTE internally gated scm61 and the boost always jumped up to like 35... had to throw on his stock mas to restrict the flow till he got a bigger external gate

that was with atmosphere dumped 02 housing also..

so hope you got the right gate for that big filter

ive got an fp3065 and i just ordered a K&N 4x9" should be ok with the 44vband though.

 

[definitiveno]

what kind of WG are you running ? gotta be carefull with the big filters... they let alot of air in.. friend had a big filter like that with the PTE internally gated scm61 and the boost always jumped up to like 35... had to throw on his stock mas to restrict the flow till he got a bigger external gate

that was with atmosphere dumped 02 housing also..

so hope you got the right gate for that big filter

ive got an fp3065 and i just ordered a K&N 4x9" should be ok with the 44vband though.

38mm internal gate, external dump. We'll see what happens!

Heres like thge only place on the entire net that has the cleaning kit

http://www.jazzproparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=21-110

Looks like 8 bucks every 20k, thats not horrible

 

[Jason84]

i dunno about you but i clean my filters alot more often then 20k heh.

i clean mine atleast 2 times a summer depending how dirty it is
or how bored i am


i bet that turbo is gonna boost creep internally gated with that big filter what filter do you have on there now?

 

[definitiveno]

i dunno about you but i clean my filters alot more often then 20k heh.

i clean mine atleast 2 times a summer depending how dirty it is
or how bored i am


i bet that turbo is gonna boost creep internally gated with that big filter what filter do you have on there now?

No it wont! damn it...

I gotta think positive The car has been broken for months.... every thing you see in my mod list has been put on over the last few months, new motor gets installed in 2 weeks, knock on wood. to answer your question though, it has no filter

 

[Defiant]

http://trucks.aempower.com/dryflow/SWRIresults_9inchdryflow_newandcleaned.pdf

http://trucks.aempower.com/press_events_detail.asp?aid=54


What do the wisemen think?

Ooh, just lookit those impressive data sheets from a real Testing Lab! Oooh, lookit the numbers! 10" of water is how hard you have to suck to get a large Coke up a straw into your gullet. It's NOTHING to an engine.
Under the varying circumstances of automotive air filtering, a cheeseball ripoff Chinese K&N forgery will work as well as a K&N, or any other fabric-element filter. And they don't filter as well as a stock pleated paper element, which is where their improved airflow comes from.

 

[Defiant]

versus a K&N cleaning kit which lasts pretty long.

According to an unnamed K&N salesperson in an undisclosed area, K&N cleaner is Formula 409.

 

[Defiant]

turbo filters suck up ALOT more then na cars air filters so our filters need to be cleaned alot more then normal.

Hogwash. X horsepower will require X amount of air. A turbocharged 4-cylinder will breathe more air than an N/T engine, but a 200 horsepower motor will need 200 hp of air, regardless the engine displacement or layout. At 70mph steady-state, you might be making 20 horsepower to maintain that speed. The differences in air consumption between an N/A 1600cc, turbo 2-liter or 5-liter V-8 under that condition will be negligible.

 

[Defiant]

i dunno about you but i clean my filters alot more often then 20k heh.

i clean mine atleast 2 times a summer depending how dirty it is
or how bored i am

If you let it get "dirty" for at least a year, its filtering efficiency will triple. More trapped debris=more labyrinth effect=more debris entrapment. The "filter oil" is virtually all dried out after a week of running.

 

[funniegus]

I thought that the apexi filter was adry filter also?

 

[92GSXBaltimore]

there is talk in the auto industry about cotton/oil filters(K&N style) damaging air flow sensors from their oil contaminating the electronics. Makes alot of sense if you think about it.

 

[Talesin]

Odd. I'd figured that a 5 liter V-8 would suck more gas at idle (given the same rpm level) as compared to a DSM due to that more air is being pushed through (with twice the cylinders, not even counting the litrage disparity) per turn of the crank. True, the V8 would still be putting out more horsepower and torque at idle, but that seems like it could also scale to higher RPM points, allowing a turbocharged four-banger to run in 'economy' mode with a driver that knew what they were doing, as opposed to a V8 that has a higher base flow.

Then again, that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. The Dryflows look nifty.. I misrecalled them as just needing to be back-flushed with water (no cleaning agent needed) and then shaken dry, which would be much more useful. Needing to buy their cleaning agent... I think I'll just stick with my K&Ns until they wear out, or something markedly better hits the market. After all, I can pick up a new aerosol kit at Pep Boys for about eight bucks.

 

[definitiveno]

Odd. I'd figured that a 5 liter V-8 would suck more gas at idle

More yes but marginally. The flow is regulated by the throttle body plate, and at 60mph, flat ground, both engines are only making 20hp to maintain speeds.


I don't know about other filters but this is the first one ive seen rated to trap particles as small as 1 micron. Typically weve always seen paper filters shine in the "cleaning" department and synthetic filters do good with flow, seems like there is finally some comprimise.