New English Racing 2.2L 1G auto DSE car - 10.19@134 - NO NITROUS!

[SonySlave]

They're only a few cars that have been mid 9's or faster with a single power adder in a automatic DSM. John Wood is more of the exception, then what is called normal. I've read about his setup on Nabr, and it sounds great. He put in alot of time, money, and effort to make that work. I'm can't wait to see how the compound turbo will do, but i'm also wondering how much more RPM that car has left with his motor? I know "why" you built your car, and yes it is and has been very consitant and relieable. For reference big turbo cars, are 67mm turbo's or bigger. I'm not going to turn this into another 5spd vs. auto debate. Only time will tell, how it will work itself out. Let the best man win. Someimes, 3 out of 100 is all you need.

You're right. Only time will tell. I actually enjoy being the underdog and look forward to the challenge of the DSE class. I love racing and I'm ridiculously competitive. Maybe too much so. Some will take my comments here personally and think I'm just an arrogant jerk. That is not my intention nor is that true. I'm actually incredibly friendly. I haven't said anything I didn't have proof to back up with. You're also right. Very few "no nitrous" automatics have used a 67mm+ turbo. My point has been that even though they haven't been using 67mm+ turbos, they haven't needed to to win events.

Johnny's MIVEC setup, I personally feel, is the future of big turbo automatics in the DSM world. And, hopefully the converter companies will continue innovation and design to continue bringing the stall times down while keeping good top end lock up. The domestic automatic world has had 50 years of design and engineering. DSMs are some of the only import vehicles that are going fast with factory automatic transmissions. For example, very few Supra drivers with automatics use the factory trans. Most move to a TH400 or Glide, which have ridiculous amounts of R&D in them from years in the domestic world. That includes converters and internals transmission parts like clutch packs, valve bodies, and gears. So that means we're 45 years behind the power curve as far as automatic R&D goes. Companies like Kiggly, Metro, Sinister, Precision Industries, and Bradco, among others, are doing what they can for us.

Of course they're faster. M/T's always trap higher. Or did you also mean quicker? Lots of quick autos out there these days. Even the 16G record is held by an auto. And if I remember correctly, the autos were taking home the trophys at last year's SO.

True statement.

Oh yeah, Paul, if you didn't see post #4, you should go take a look.

 

[rhamlinii]

Of course they're faster. M/T's always trap higher. Or did you also mean quicker? Lots of quick autos out there these days. Even the 16G record is held by an auto. And if I remember correctly, the autos were taking home the trophys at last year's SO.

Last, I heard Joe still did 9.90's on a 16G.

Alot of fast automatic's that run the same number pass after pass. The current 16g car you speak of, is a badass purpose built car. Auto's have been kicking ass for what feels like 5 years, if you're including Quick 16

I was refering to Shep's 7.70-to- Bush's 8.20, but with Bush changing some things around............. I'm expecting more but he with almost 11k on that 8.20. I'm thinking how much more does his car have to give. Turbo for Turbo

 

[SonySlave]

To be fair, and I've already said it before. Even the autos can have problems. Look at Quick 16 the last few years. It's been back a forth with a manual car and an automatic winning the class overall. Devin Schultz 5-speed in 2012, the Abele brothers automatics in 2011, Brad Gary 5-speed in 2010. Brad beat Jesse Abele in the finals. A mid-9 second 5-speed beat a mid-8 second automatic. Why? Jesse burned his trans up on the start line. Things happen. And, it doesn't matter what class it is. That's why it's fun.

 

[99gst_racer]

Last, I heard Joe still did 9.90's on a 16G.

On the bottle, he did. Off the bottle, he went 10.51 @ 133.

Oh yeah, Paul, if you didn't see post #4, you should go take a look.

I did and I will be building a 1G rear sometime in the near future.

 

[eclipsed4seed99]

I want a burn out contest at the Shoot Out, Just saying

 

[rhamlinii]

On the bottle, he did. Off the bottle, he went 10.51 @ 133.


I did and I will be building a 1G rear sometime in the near future.

I'd be interested in that aswell.

 

[SonySlave]

I want a burn out contest at the Shoot Out, Just saying

You crack me up Jeff. You'd win. But knowing DSMers you'd have to have a "street car" burnout class and a "purpose-built" burnout class.

I did and I will be building a 1G rear sometime in the near future.

Well keep me toward the top of your interested list. I'd be the first in line.

 

[ErikTande]

Awesome man, congrats!

 

[robevo]

Congrats on the time mate, very impressive.Im considering going the smaller turbo route aswel.

 

[SonySlave]

Finally got the car scheduled for pick up by the moving company next week. Routes don't get much further than Washington to Maryland and these shipping companies are all so shady. Hard to weed through all of the BS and hundreds of companies that contact you afterward. I'm ridiculously nervous about the whole thing but I did some research and talked to some of my other military and government co-workers and got some company recommendations. Still unsettling giving my car to a complete stranger to haul 3400 miles across the country...

 

[94awdcoupe]

are you using uship? works really well if you are not. good bit cheaper than regular ship companies

 

[SonySlave]

No I'm not, though I did get a couple quotes from some of the carriers in their network. Prices ranged from $875-$1350 and I probably got 60+ quotes from different companies. My military discount helped a little bit. Found a company that seems pretty good. Has good reviews online and at the BBB and only cost me $900. We'll see how it all goes.

 

[yellowrs]

To be fair, and I've already said it before. Even the autos can have problems. Look at Quick 16 the last few years. It's been back a forth with a manual car and an automatic winning the class overall. Devin Schultz 5-speed in 2012, the Abele brothers automatics in 2011, Brad Gary 5-speed in 2010. Brad beat Jesse Abele in the finals. A mid-9 second 5-speed beat a mid-8 second automatic. Why? Jesse burned his trans up on the start line. Things happen. And, it doesn't matter what class it is. That's why it's fun.

Actually the msd killed the car due the anti theft wire accidentally finding its way to ground. Trust me I learned to always tape up unused wires that day.

 

[11Banger]

I hope I can get my auto setup going by the shootout next year... It would be #### to run the colt in Q16

 

[SonySlave]

Actually the msd killed the car due the anti theft wire accidentally finding its way to ground. Trust me I learned to always tape up unused wires that day.

Good advice for sure!

Sorry for the misinformation. I remember there being a lot of nonsense with the lights that day and that was the rumor going around. Either way, regardless of how it happened, he beat you with a much slower car. It happens.

 

[SonySlave]

The English crew needs to keep the car for little while longer to make sure the setup is 100%. Looks like I'll have to wait for the Shootout to get the car. The car is in great hands but the anticipation is killing me!

 

[bastarddsm]

man, I'm gonna be bringing an atlatl to a bazooka fight. oh well.

 

[SonySlave]

man, I'm gonna be bringing an atlatl to a bazooka fight. oh well.

Well as I've eluded to in previous posts, if the big guys in this class like Tim Zimmer all run what they are capable of consistently, then I'm just as screwed as you! It'll be fun regardless!

 

[rhamlinii]

Well as I've eluded to in previous posts, if the big guys in this class like Tim Zimmer all run what they are capable of consistently, then I'm just as screwed as you! It'll be fun regardless!

Just give them hell. His car is fast, but we'll have to see what his car does.

 

[jeffrox]

Washington to Maryland

Just realized that you moved away from the NW. I was just at English over the weekend working on my mirage and I noticed your 1G is slightly different than the last time I saw it

Are you planning on taking your car to this years DSM shoot-out?

 

[SonySlave]

Just realized that you moved away from the NW. I was just at English over the weekend working on my mirage and I noticed your 1G is slightly different than the last time I saw it

Are you planning on taking your car to this years DSM shoot-out?

Yeah Jeff, I moved out here in December, just after Christmas. I actually haven't even seen the car yet since the rebuild. I know the exterior looks the same but I haven't seen the engine area with the new stuff in there. Lucas is hauling the car out to the Shootout for me. They still have a few things they want to do with the car before they give it back. Don't want a car that isn't 100%.

 

[1qkfwd]

Well at least you know its in good hands till the shootout. Good luck out there when the time comes and go bust some balls.

 

[JohnTSI]

Think all this talk about auto car reliability Jixed you all at the shootout this year.

Was nice seeing the whole crew, hope to have my unreliable broken 5 speed car there next year .

 

[SonySlave]

Think all this talk about auto car reliability Jixed you all at the shootout this year.

Was nice seeing the whole crew, hope to have my unreliable broken 5 speed car there next year .

I can sense the sarcasm in your post and maybe it's deserved but I still stick to my comments and opinions despite my bad luck at the Shootout this year. Just shows that the autos can be beaten and broken as well. A 5-speed won DSE this year. Adam had a lot of trouble his first event out with the dogbox at MIR a few months ago but really pulled it together and was very consistent at the Shootout. Good on him! I never said I didn't respect the 5-speed guys and the incredible power they make, but I still feel auto is the right path for reliability and consistency.

 

[JohnTSI]

I am just razing you, we played with autos before they where cool, hell we took the auto record from Cox back in the day. Still have several here we race and when grudge racing except going from a roll always the better choice. Much more consistent and generally easier on parts. Really a shame seeing all of them go down to breakage this year. Much rather see people win by racing then breakage.

You seemed pretty frustrated after yours went down. Hope to see you stick with it.