My job and the company's scam

[ramsack]

No, I'll just kick someone's ass over this. Way more painful than death.

 

[dalesmitsu]

You should sit your car outside if you show up earley, wait till 5mins befroe your shift starts. Walk in clock in on time, people wont tell you can't sit your car if you show 30 mins earley. Only thing would say is sit your break until your shift starts.

Is you company based in ohio also, like around my area. I'm looking for better employment.

 

[ramsack]

It's near Philadelphia.

 

[VETTE_50_TH]

Kop, Plymouth meeting?

 

[ramsack]

Pretty much KOP.

 

[Travis96GS-T]

They only really need a signature if the change is something that would break the employment contract (assuming you even have one). This is to protect them from a wrongful termination suit in the event you are fired because of it. A change like this does not really warrant it.

This is because you were probably hired under the same policy. That is, you are to work 8 hrs a day 5 days a week for x amount of $. They have just changed the system that they use to track this policy. This system does exactly what they want it to. It forces employees to be there on time and only work the number of hours allotted to them.

They are not forcing you to work over 8 hours a day while only paying you for 8. They have simply given you a 10 min window prior to your start time to clock in. From there you are to work only 8 hours and gtfo. If you sit around after that, when you have explicitly been told you are to work an 8 hour day, then that is your own prerogative. Consider it volunteer work. If they are the ones that asked you to stay past your 8 hours, then you should be compensated for it in accordance with your agreed upon contract.

 

[GsXdSmKingGsX]

Go be a manwhore and get paid straight well earned ca$h!

 

[GSXSixteenG]

Because a company cannot just change its policies without the employees either signing to agree with it or not signing it and walking. That was supposed to be all caps. Before I leave someone WILL die over this.

You need help, you have a few screws loose I think.

 

[TSimage]

Let me help your remedial ass out...

If you work over 8hrs in a day it is OVER TIME (time and a half) over 10hrs it is DOUBLE OVER TIME (X2)..

Period.

So working 7hrs and 50 minutes on Monday and then working 8hrs and 10 minutes on Thursday is NOT the same.

That 10 minutes is time and a half so in reality you would be cheating the company out of money by being paid 150% of what you normally would have.

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For example I am a union employee and I make roughly $35-55 an hr bring home and about 55-75 before dues, medical, yadda yadda yadda. Now to make this easy, lets say I'm at $50/hr so I work 7.5hrs on Monday, that totals $50X7.5hrs= $375 on Monday. Now I'm an idiot like ramsack and want to "make-up" the time I missed because I am an irresponsible prick and clocked out before time thus breaking company rules/policy because I am 'special' (special as in retarded) I decide to work 8.5hrs @ $50... Problem is is that after 8hrs, its over time meaning my pay will be as follows: $50X8hrs= $400 + $50X1.5 (OT)=$75hr OT pay for .5hrs so: $75X.5=$37.50 but wait... I was only short $25 from the day before yet I got paid an ADDITIONAL $37.5-25= $12.5 all because I am a dunce who can't get my head out of my ass long enough to let oxygen circulate back to my brain.

Please fire me...
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Bottom line is is your dumbass clocked out early. I'd fire you for being a whiny bi*** AND clocking out before time.

You'd deserve it.

Systems like this are SPECIFICALLY for employees like YOU. Ironically you are your own undoing. Aint that a b*tch?

You don't get paid just for showing up, you get paid to WORK. You can be there for 20hrs but if you only WORK 8 and you are just hangin' out otherwise, what makes you feel like you should be paid just to be a warm body in the office? You talk about being unorganized yet you don't see the point of such a system...

I never wish ill will on other but at this point I venture to say someone else is better suited for your job and undoubtedly will be more appreciative of it and most likely perform on a a higher level than you are most likely capable of. Your argument about not taking a lunch is pointless... IT guys spend a majority of their time doing nothing meaning a lunch break to you is pointless because you are already getting paid for doing nothing and being a lazy waste of space but systems like this keep rejects such as yourself from fking the company even worse out of time owed.

Cry all you want but you'll never do anything about it. You're a spineless kid that is crying on a forum to a bunch of people who probably have more unpaid time from showing up early or even starting work early on our own than you have of probably actually doing any real work period. no one is going to side with you.

Let me make it clear for you.

Those are the rules in almost ALL work environments. I tell you when to show up, when to take your breaks and when to leave. That is set in stone. I expect 8hrs of work from you and will in turn pay you for those 8hrs. That is our agreement of employment. If you don't like it, leave. Especially for someone as expendable and useless to the company as you.

 

[Gs Dewd]

I don't get a paid lunch. So you get it better than I.

x2 I am at my work place over 9 hrs a day and get paid for 8. I get paid good so you won't here me complain. There are times I don't even take a lunch break. I work through. I guess I fell extremely lucky to have a job right now considering the way the economy is.

 

[nuclearr]

I would love to have a cushy job like that. You probably make more than I do to do nothing.

I work in construction I work my a$$ off every day on most days I have a 45 min ride home and can hardly keep from falling asleep at the wheels. To come home and do the same thing for my construction company or work on other peoples cars. And take care of my daughter. So I typically work 60-80 hrs a week and get no over time. Tell me about how you have no life b/c you get home at 7:30pm I start at 7am and do not stop until 8 or 9pm.

 

[joescool2008]

What over 8hours is overtime? It's over 40 in a week for me, and doubletime is working 7 days straight in a payperiod. Yeah you shouldnt be paid for showing up early, they didnt ask you to. Thats not their fault. If you are asked to stay over then yeah obviously you should be paid. But not when you do it and didnt say anything. You sir are an idiot and remind of a guy i work with. When he talks to me all I hear is, I'm an Idiot, I'm an Idiot. Find another job or tell your boss fvck off break your desk in half and get disability for anger issues so you can be worthless day after day.

 

[ramsack]

$27.5K a year, which is decent, but not anywhere near to support my wanting to drink every day. Some day I will have my own office to run and it will be run exactly like the Office (US) TV show.

 

[viprez586]

You wanna complain about sh_tty hours become a flat rate technician.
There are days I arrive at 5:45AM and stay till 6:30-7pm at night.
Do I get paid hourly? No. Research flat-rate pay.

My schedule entails 7:30-5pm Monday - Friday, Three 12 hour days required per month(Next day you get to leave early), and One Saturday a month is required.
Do I put in a helluva lot more time then that? Hell YES! I'm probably there at LEAST 48hours physically to anywhere of 60 hours physically. My paycheck will range anywhere from 45-80+hours however, depending on workload.

Be happy your hourly and can "slack" unless you have a deadline to meet.

My "deadline" is my paycheck.

Oh - my commute is about 15-20 minutes. 15 or so miles.
Rush hour takes 30 minutes to get home though.

 

[Iowa99GST]

I see a new thread from OP in the near future... "Omg I got fired and arrested for a joke about someone getting hurt because of a stupid time clock policy". Seriously? Why would you even think about saying threatening stuff like that? I wouldn't be surprised at all if a moderator pulled up your info you gave when setting up your account here and called your local police department. I would actually laugh, quite hard.

Quit whining about your job, because there is nothing wrong with this. I'm sure that you were told that you could come in whenever you wanted on Mondays. I'm sure they also told you that you still had to work a full 8 hours from that point and couldn't make it up on a different day, and you just decided to see if they were telling the truth or not.

If a company schedules you to work an 8 hour day, between specific hours, it is probably because those are the hours that they need you. Showing up early is not their problem. I show up early at my job every day because it is better to be early than late, and I'd rather not risk termination or not getting a bonus/raise/promotion because I didn't think it was fair that I should have to be here early and therefore ended up being late.

You sir, fail.

 

[ramsack]

If they wanted to schedule me for the hours the forums get posted on most then I would be 3rd shift and loving that.

 

[knochgoon24]

I can't believe the you're serious about all this. Wow.

They want you there 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. What's so hard to understand about that?

Just because YOU want to leave 15 min early one day and make it up the next day doesn't mean you're allowed.

The existence of this thread is ridiculous. I read all 4 pages just hoping you'd come to terms with the real world. I hate being grouped into this "entitlement" generation with you. They aren't paying you for your commute to work. If you show up early, good. If you're late, then that's you fault. What's so hard to understand? I've never had a job where I could make my schedule up on the fly, like you seem to think you should be able to.

Another American unhappy to live in America. So sad....

 

[BoostedinSoFla]

You need help, you have a few screws loose I think.

A few? seems like all his screws are loose and he's just an immature little brat that doesn't appreciate having a job in tough times like this.

 

[ramsack]

Yeah, you think these are tough times, just wait. No one's wages will mean shit pretty soon.

 

[knochgoon24]

Yeah, you think these are tough times, just wait. No one's wages will mean shit pretty soon.

I'll start asking for my pay in Klondike bars then.

 

[wishin4nX]

I'll give them my wish list from MAPerformance and STM, an have them pay me in parts

 

[LandoAWD]

<snip>Your argument about not taking a lunch is pointless... IT guys spend a majority of their time doing nothing meaning a lunch break to you is pointless because you are already getting paid for doing nothing and being a lazy waste of space but systems like this keep rejects such as yourself from fking the company even worse out of time owed.

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I agree with all but the bolded text. Some of us bust ass at work, even if we have a second window open with a forum in it. (or third, or fifth)

Of course they don't need permission, but they need to prove that employees were notified of changed policies, and that is a signature. Ever have a company change its employee handbook on ya? Every time that happened at a job they had people sign something saying you are aware of the changes and you agree with them.

Stop assuming you can do HR's job; you're barely doing your own at this point.

Yeah, you think these are tough times, just wait. No one's wages will mean shit pretty soon.

This again? You keep planning for your crystal-ball future, I'll live in reality.

FWIW, you could make 27k slinging pizzas from the DSM. I know I did when I was 19.

 

[ramsack]

How am I barely doing my own job at this point? Get a damn life and if you don't like it, stay out of this thread. I am supposed to moderate a forum. The forum gets less than 10 posts a day. I read these posts and report anything to customer care if necessary, or delete spam threads. That's all my job requires, that's all I do. I'm not an IT person. An HR job is no real work either, quit acting like they are the holy grail of jobs. They literally sit at a desk, they don't do any physical work either. This being a computer-oriented place, they do little to no paper work. I'm not going to deliver pizzas in a DSM. Pointless. Maybe if I had a Prius it would be worth it. If there were actual physical jobs that paid what they are worth, yeah, I would go back to that line of work, but forget it. Busting one's ass gets you nowhere in terms of pay. How is it after 4 years busting my ass in a warehouse I don't even make what I do now to do my supposed nothing? Most of you look like asses because you are simply assuming I'm not doing my job and that I'm doing less than required. Oh well, assume all day. I know what is required of me and what isn't.

 

[LandoAWD]

Actually YOU told us you weren't doing your job, YOU brought up the completely asinine hypothesis that this is anyone's fault but yours...please attempt to stay with the class.

 

[ramsack]

Where along the line did I come on here and say that I don't do my job? Anything is open to interpretation, and if I said that my job consists of basically nothing or that my job consists of less work that anyone else here, then someone getting me not doing my job out of that is assumption. I make probably 2/3 of what everyone else here does anyway. It's not like $27.5 K is much in the area where I work. Single bedroom apartments down this way are minimum $1,500 a month, so my pay is down near the poverty line. You act like I'm the only one pissed off at my job about this shit. Come here and try to tell people they are acting like a bunch of crybabies and you will most likely get thrown out of a window. I get everyone here are all entitled little babies.