My job and the company's scam

[ramsack]

That makes no sense whatsoever. Why would you need to punch in early to avoid punching in late? Because one would be irresponsible and not pay attention to their time. I was there 8 hours, if it lets me punch in and records my time as 9:50 then why should I have to stay there 8:10 to get paid for 8:00. It's a scam and someone is going to get their ass kicked if they don't fix this shit. I started work at ####ing 9:50, not 10:00. This company can go #### themselves if they won't pay me the hours I was there. How is it hard for other people to understand that one should get paid the hours they are punched? Oh, let's give people the opportunity to punch in 10 minutes early and just assume that they do no work for 10 minutes and make them stay 10 minutes past 8 hours. Yeah, that seems perfectly acceptable. A grace period is a time AFTER the deadline. It would make sense if the grace period was if I punched in at 10:10 and worked until 6:00 that I wuld get paid 8 hours. That's a grace period. Time clock rounding is ILLEGAL when it benfits the employer and not the employee. Obviously something is wrong with the system.

 

[mike_tsi]

How hard is it to show up at the time you are assigned? My mom still shows up early as well as other individuals on this board and througout the world to work!! Your employer will see what kind of person you are by showing up early by seeing that you are early and on time and have your shit straight. I showed up to work when I was suppose to and clocked in when I was suppose to. I clearly made up hours by asking the bosses for overtime to makeup hours. You sir are not asking the bosses Since you have not posted that.Your are assuming you can make it up by using this "grace period" as overtime/makeup time to me. Is it that hard to understand. But from reading all your posts, I have come to a conclusion that you have a demeanor of "I'm always right".

 

[TSimage]

The mods need to lock this thread. This numbskull makes us all look bad. Heaven forbid that anyone else sees this guys thread and thinks we are all mentally challenged.

Anyone so stupid that they don't understand what a "schedule" is should have never been hired anyways. On the other hand, his job is to monitor a dead forum so I am sure they'd feel that anyone else with more than a GED would be over qualified and unchallenged. Forget about his remedial job assignment that is so silly he is most certainly over paid but this moron can't even get past understanding the concept of clocking in and out. I don't see why anyone thinks he will get it now. This guy is mentally challenged and his company is probably getting a tax break for employing someone who lives 50 miles away and has an IQ even lower than that.


They said start work at 10 and go home at 6. PERIOD.

There is no room for interpretation. It is cut dry and clear.

We want you WORKING by 10AM and will pay you until 6PM. They don't give a fk what time you get there... EVERYONE deals with traffic, people figure it out. You are paid for the time you WORK not the time you arrive and if you aren't to work till 10AM then guess what Einstein.. It doesn't matter if you clock in at 4am. Work starts at 10AM and if you are suppose to be there until 6PM that does not mean 5:59 or 6:01...

But why argue with this sap, he's proven that even his simple task might be too complicated for someone of his intellectual abilities and regardless of how much he cries and bitches, nothing will happen. He'll just keep working and keep bitching like the other disposable hacks that are unfortunately employed currently.

 

[TRSblader]

I don't understand why the concept is so difficult (I'll be honest, I read the first post and then the last few of this thread and that's it). My old sales job was the same way, you could clock in up to 10 minutes early but weren't paid until your shift started. Also, if we clocked out late (or forgot) we weren't paid UNLESS approved by management. For instance, if I clocked out at 6:05 but was supposed to leave at 6, my manager would get a thing the next day that he had to approve for overtime, or tell it to ignore the late clock-out.

I used to show up 10 minutes early and clock in, because by the time I took my jackets, hat, gloves off, washed my hands or used the restroom if I needed, put my shoes on and made sure my shirt was tucked in and the rest of the dress code was being followed and walked back out, my 10 minutes was usually up. Had I still needed to clock in, that was another 2-3 minutes with our ancient P.O.S system that redirected you about 7 times. I would then be late and my boss unhappy, which would in turn make me get yelled at longer, meaning I had more work to do in less time. Not to mention, I just lost that precious 10 cents for the 2 minutes I missed (over a year, that 10 cents might buy me a small fry).

Honestly I saw it as a good thing. I made sure for a fact I was paid my full work shift (even if I didn't walk out of the back room a few minutes late for whatever reason), and my boss was happy that 97% of the time I was on the floor ready to help customers at my designated work shift.

 

[ramsack]

I really don't give a shit how stupid you all think I am. Pound sand. 10 minutes early is on time. I work my 8 hour shift and I expect to get paid the time I am there and not have to give an extra 10 minutes of my time. It's ILLEGAL to round down like that. FLSA... If you have to get dressed in a uniform for work then that should be done on company time. It's a German company so I can't expect too much. They're still Nazi at heart.

 

[TRSblader]

If you have to get dressed in a uniform for work then that should be done on company time.

Seriously? I really can't believe getting dressed in the morning for work is something the company should have to pay you to do.That's ridiculous. "Sorry boss, I won't put clothes on unless you pay me." If you had your own company, would you allow that? If you say yes, then you're straight up lying just to not be wrong now. You'd send him home/fire him, laugh, and think "what the blank is wrong with this guy."

I was not talking about carrying my work clothes to work and completely changing. I said take off my jacket, hat, gloves etc, changing shoes only, then looking in the mirror to make sure everything is good to go.

 

[Iowa99GST]

So I'm curious, he put up screen shots of his time punches before that showed when he clocked in and out and messed it up on his own, but now that he claims he did it properly and it still "cheated" him he doesn't? I say pics or it didn't happen, Mr. Troll.

I also vote that he deserves a ban for the Nazi comment. You have no idea how ashamed 99.99% of all Germans are of that time period. I've been to Germany, and can tell you for a fact, they are not proud of it.

 

[ramsack]

I'm 100% German-blooded, so I can make comments like that. If I had my own company i would be strict but fair. People's times would be paid by the second, too. People would get bonuses. I would tell people they did a good job if they did. People would laugh as I approached and applaud as I leave. When I worked at Redner's warehouse the CEO would stand outside to smoke a cigarette and open the door for people as they came to work and say hi and be nice.

 

[tazndrew04]

ive read the 1st and last page and from what your saying is that youve made the company policy and your the exception to the rule that you should be paid for when you clock in weither its 15 mins or on time when your shift starts? Every company is basically the same they pay you for the time that they say your supposed to be there not when you wanna get there and leave. Id like to see you go to a lawyer and tell them my company wont pay me for getting there 15 mins early and leaving 15 early thats just not how companys work. Agian you can argue with everyone of us that you think your some exception to every company. They pay you for 8 hours weither it be your supposed to start at 8 and leave at 5. Its your choice to get there early not theirs, and its not required for them to pay you for that time just the time theyve specified for you to be there. Get a different job until they pay you for going out of your way and than youll be set. Theres no point in continuing to try and prove your point because well all say the same thing that its not your way its the companies way and every job in america. Unless its approved by the supervisor or manager for overtime than you wont get paid how hard is it to understand?

 

[Thomas91169]

OP you should look for a salaried position then.

Well this morning I punched in at 9:50, which is within the rules of a 10-minute grace period. So I punched out at 5:50, and guess what? 7.83 hours!

No, you were there 7.88hrs.

The fact you clocked in 10min early does not mean you get to leave 10min. You simply clocked in to avoid remembering to clock in at 10.

Had you stayed to 6pm like your shift requires, you wouldve gotten 8hrs.

Its not that difficult. Seriously.

 

[dalesmitsu]

Well this morning I punched in at 9:50, which is within the rules of a 10-minute grace period. So I punched out at 5:50, and guess what? 7.83 hours!

You should've clocked out at 6:00 or 6:10, then it would say 8hrs. Either clock in 5mins till or on time, then you wouldnt have problems.

Just because you clock early doesnt mean you leave early, still have to work the full 8hr shift.

I can see if you worked 40 hrs and your employer paid you half what you normally make then thats a reason to raise hell.


A good example is what my step dad went through or heard about swift trucking in columbus. He was supposed to get 250hrs of driving time so he be on his own but instead his mentor wouldnt et him drive and he would pickup hookers in between runs. My stepfather was told he 4 more days left and he would be paid .25 cents a mile. So quit and complained what happend. On top of this he's been told swift scams drivers out of money. One guy bi*** about his check he did a 300 mile runs but was only paid 150 dollars.

 

[wishin4nX]

Where DO you work ramsack?

 

[TSimage]

I really don't give a shit how stupid you all think I am. Pound sand. 10 minutes early is on time. I work my 8 hour shift and I expect to get paid the time I am there and not have to give an extra 10 minutes of my time. It's ILLEGAL to round down like that. FLSA... If you have to get dressed in a uniform for work then that should be done on company time. It's a German company so I can't expect too much. They're still Nazi at heart.

Wrong.

Its not illegal because you are SCHEDULED for a SPECIFIC time frame and are notified of it prior to your clocking in thus it is all on you for being stupid.

BTW.. 95%+ of jobs/time management is this same way, you'd actually be fired already most likely so count your blessings.

 

[ramsack]

9:50 to 5:50 is 8 hours.

 

[wishin4nX]

But you're scheduled 10-6. Clock In at 10, out at 6 and stfu

 

[ramsack]

Nope. 9:50 to 5:50 is 8 hours.

 

[Iowa99GST]

Once again, pics or it didn't happen. Also, 2:12 AM until 10:12 AM is 8 hours as well, but I'm sure your company wouldn't pay you for being at work between those hours, as your scheduled shift is 10-6.

 

[GSXSixteenG]

Nope. 9:50 to 5:50 is 8 hours.

Your scheduled 10-6 though, not come in and work 8 hours whenever you want. TEN TO FVCKING SIX.

 

[m_0ney_pit]

If it was me I would contact the appropriate organization (probably the department of labor) and tell them your problem.

 

[wishin4nX]

And they would laugh and ask how old he is or if it's a prank call

 

[Red97Eclipseboy]

Damn I guess no one finds their own time precious anymore. 1/3 of ones life is spent working, for 1/5 to 1/3 of one's pay never to be seen again. Time on earth is precious and even though I'm getting paid for it I would like appreciation or a "get out, you suck". I will be quitting once we actually go into a real depression and the monetary system collapses, since my bank will lose all my money and close, and a pay check will mean nothing, and I won't be able to get paid in cash.

I can't read past this anymore. You're seriously beyond obnoxious. Everyone enjoys their time on earth. We all know you don't. You've made it terribly clear in other threads how you want to give up on life. Now you hate that you can't make your own rules at a place that is paying you? Pull your wang out of your butt, dumbass. You sound so ridiculous.

I love working, making my money and being able to have nice clothes, take vacations, take my family out to dinner anytime, etc. Call me materialistic becuase I enjoy "stuff". I love my job and what it pays me, and the life it allows me, my fiancee and our little girls to have. If you would grow up, you'd realize that you're clearly unhappy with life; not just your job. If you follow your heart with work, the money will come. Find what you enjoy doing, if there is anything. Be happy you have a job and stop being a b1tch. Figure your crap out, get off the internet and move forward with your life. Well, scratch that. The world will end in 2012 and the dollar will be as useful as used toilet paper soon, so crawl back in your hole, right? Our 5 year-old is more mature than you in ways. I mean that.

Put it this way; this is only to inspire you if possible. I went from a $9 an hour job until I was 27, to a kick-ass health-care job because I took the time to shadow people, break away from my normal and find my passion. I went on a waiting list for 1 year before I could start my program. I worked two jobs, went to school full-time and still had fun with my car and graduated with honors. Now I am engaged to a ICU nurse and between both of us, we pull in about $150,000 a year. Within 3 years, that's how much my life changed for the better.

Don't think for two seconds you can't do the same thing. But you need to re-write your attitude and outlook on life and reality. Some say our view of reality is subjective, but not in your case. Now that I scolded you like a child, followed by some hopefully inspirational words, are you going to respond like a kid, or an adult?

 

[E116]

Good post ^^

Ramsack if your so unhappy with it why dont you just sit in your car till 10 and swipe in at 10 and leave at 6 sharp. You seem like such a baby

 

[ramsack]

Heat = gas = money

 

[Benshooter]

Guys, I have an idea. Someone needs to contact this company, let them know that you're willing to moderate that forum for a 1/4 of what they're paying this dunce, from a remote site. Take his job so we can knock one thing off the list of this borderline troll to be miserable about. Or perhaps we could all just boycott his threads and posts? Could be fun yeah?

People like Tim Ramich (ramsack) here are the reason this country is in a recession and why "the dollar is about to collapse" (extra by the way. Glen Beck fan, much?) You angsty teens who think the govt is about to fold couldn't be more uneducated and have no idea how expansive and powerful our govt is. You're "half hearted" work attitude is what's wrong with this country and society. The sad thing is how prevalent this attitude of "I should be paid because Im HERE" attitude is. Unlike you, I've actually done a few things with my life and I've even been in charge of employees both in office and construction settings. Here's a basic management rundown that I think tsi image was trying to get across:

You're "time" doesn't mean SHIT to me. It's absolutely worthless. The only thing you're good to me for is when you're actually WORKING. Being productive. Producing. Showing a fruit for your labors.

Your Time =/= Pay
Productive Time = Pay

I love how you talk about "kicking ass". I can tell by the way you chat it up in here and whine you've never thrown a serious punch in your life. That's why you have a blog to do your bitching on (and not to mention talking about your hate for minorities and jews, since you're a pathetic closet racist) and why you come in here with this garbage. You're just another angry kid that mumbles shit because you're afraid. Keep talking it up though. It makes you look extra tuff.

Go ahead and reply now. I know you will. You're very predictable for a (incredibly lonely) non-conformist.

 

[Whiplash]

ramsack you're pretty stupid.