Making A Street 800hp DSM =-)

[hurricanecris24]

I'm Gonna Build A 2000 HP Street Dsm Can You Guys Help Me

 

[kidtsi]

Hate to break it to you but usually it does...
Do you use Sign groves?

I understand him because when i joined to this forum i had 5 years of experience working on dsms, but a blitz molded body kit?
aluminum wing??? changing springs on a fuel pump oil pump???

I say, run 12s before attemping to run a single digit.

 

[kidtsi]

I'm Gonna Build A 2000 HP Street Dsm Can You Guys Help Me

I can help, PM me.

 

[Anthony95TSiAWD]

1 word "GT42R"

Yeah man slap that monster on there and you wont even need to upgrade the fuel system , but seriously whats the point of 800do in a dd? Not to mention up keep.

 

[Calan]

...Do you want autox car....

@ 800hp DSM autox car.

 

[kmj 4g63t]

@ 800hp DSM autox car.

I wasn't telling him to make a 800hp autox car haha, it would run into wall with that power and the lag would SUCK!

 

[TSimage]

My DSM is a daily... . Its not like its an impossible task. Its just one that really hasn't been tried and there is a reason for it.

My motor is currently being upgraded to higher compression but when I had the Talon rollin around I cant say it was hard to drive. It was easier on gas tank because with a turbo that big its never in boost.

 

[standard235]

Why? That is an over complicated system that is more show than go in reality. Its the same basics seen in running a twin turbo supra compared to a single turbo.



I agree with a lot of this, but 400 to the wheels is dauntingly easy and can be done for pretty cheap if the proper path is followed the first time around.


The main issue for the OP is that if you need to ask the questions you are asking then you aren't in a position to build a car of that magnitude. When I decided I was ready to build a single digit DSM I knew every single part I was going to use right down to the Oil. At this level, price shouldn't be a hindrance, a reliable 800whp car ESPECIALLY a street driven one requires $$$ and lots of it.


Also I found your reasoning Odd.. DSMs are known as beast, period. In the 4 banger world the most intimidating thing you can see at a track is a 1g DSM. The follows right up to the Evos.. I dunno where you live but 95% of people know that the 4G is king of boost.

I suggest you start off with something more your speed and squeeze some power out of what ever turbo you currently have.





Ironic post is ironic.

I'm pretty sure the compound setup is a little different than the sequential setup found on the Supra.

Sounds like he is talking diesel about the fuel pump. Our pumps don't work that way.

You will take one of 2 paths here. 1: Think you are smarter than people who actually do know, slap on a big turbo and some other big number shiny things. And blow your car sky high.

Or you can do a 16g and run 11's. Hell, show us all and run 10's. THEN do your big bad built motor and run 8's.

DRIVER MOD.

 

[Calan]

I wasn't telling him to make a 800hp autox car haha

I know.

Just the thought of that made me when I read it.

 

[TSimage]

I'm pretty sure the compound setup is a little different than the sequential setup found on the Supra.

The comparison wasn't referring to the basic engineering of the setup it was referring to the "over complication" of a perf. vehicle. There is no reason to go Compound or at least it hasn't been proven that all the additional work/weight is worth it.

As it sits, the most efficient and reliable method is still single turbo. Be sides that, no CT setup on a DSM has came even close to that number I believe..

 

[gsxtasy]

Kevin Jewer is running 8's in his compound turbo'd 4g63, RWD talon.

 

[TSimage]

Kevin Jewer is running 8's in his compound turbo'd 4g63, RWD talon.

Brent Rau is running 6's in his single turbo'd 4g63, RWD eclipse.

But in all seriousness I do believe you are correct yet that car is far beyond the goals of the OP in terms of it being freak of nature and the OP focusing on his current AWD chasis.

 

[94_TSi]

I'm Gonna Build A 2000 HP Street Dsm Can You Guys Help Me

After reading most of this I got to here and it made it worth it. I laughed out loud........

 

[gsxtasy]

Be sides that, no CT setup on a DSM has came even close to that number I believe..

I was in no way saying it was the fastest, or even worth it for that matter. Was just simply answering this statement.

Like it matters, the OP will never get to that point or ever have to worry about it.

 

[Limegrntaln]

The only credit Im going to give here is that some cell phones type like this. So thats the only thing Im going to give him. Second is, run 13s before you kill someone. In the meantime, watch this.

YouTube - Dodge SRT-10 Burnout and Roll-Over Crash

 

[4SFED4]

I have to agree with many of the above posts.
You need a fat check book to keep the car running with only 700HP. Sometimes its the stupidest stuff that breaks, but it seems to happen regularly.

A weekend car or limited driving would be the most you could hope for. That kind of power as a DD is virtually impossible with a 4cyl and the level of maintenance and monitoring it requires. My opinion is to build a 500hp car first and see how you like the mannerism of it. If you think an 800+HP DSM is going to drive and operate anywhere near stock, pinch yourself so you wake up.

If you want that level of power and performance with your posted experience the best bet is to drop the car off at AMS, Buschur, etc and drop $30K. Even then you won't be able to daily drive it and they would probably laugh you out the door if you told them that was your goal.

 

[Calan]

Not sure how this thread is still alive, but the bottom line is...

The fact that you started the thread in the first place means that you aren't ready to be (or capable of) building an 800hp car. The fact that you typed in all caps with that grammar means that you probably aren't mature enough to handle it if you could.

Nothing personal... I just call it as I see it.

4...3...2...

 

[SD99GST]

The only credit Im going to give here is that some cell phones type like this. So thats the only thing Im going to give him. Second is, run 13s before you kill someone. In the meantime, watch this.

YouTube - Dodge SRT-10 Burnout and Roll-Over Crash

This was hilarious!!! "What happened? Did I pop a tire!!!!"

 

[Junfan]

I guess I better stay tuned in for this thread. Could be epic!

 

[99gst_racer]

Why? That is an over complicated system that is more show than go in reality. Its the same basics seen in running a twin turbo supra compared to a single turbo.

Never had this problem with this:

It was easier on gas tank because with a turbo that big its never in boost.

Be sides that, no CT setup on a DSM has came even close to that number I believe..

Because it's never been tried by the only 3 in the world...

You aren't off to a good start.

-Capital letters on every word? It makes you seem like just another high school with a turbo car and no money. Or too much money and nowhere better to spend it.
-You have a time frame of years? I bet you get bored with the idea before the project is finished. If your time frame is that long and you are that determined, build a car with a lower horsepower target, just to get a feel for what it takes to build one of these cars.
-Have you even built a DSM before? Making a 800whp car that's streetable takes more than just throwing a bunch of cash at your car. You want more than 400hp per liter.
-Are you doing this yourself in your garage or are you going to have a shop do all the work?
-Your list of priorities worries me. I hope you realize that you will have to replace everything from the tires up to get it to hold together with 800hp. And it will still be a ticking time bomb requiring a constant flow of money to keep it running.

You've been on this site since April and you haven't seen people referring to the vendors on this site? Or pointing out the dyno section and telling people to look there and compare their parts list to those?


All this thread will get is people's dream build lists.

/thread.