MAFT Pro Clarification - speed density and other options explained

[Mike Licht]

I have had lots of questions and misunderstandings about the new MAFT Pro so I will try to clear up a few things here.

The MAFT Pro can operate in 3 different modes,
MODE 1 - AFC mode, it works just like an AFC it can be installed as is with no other items still using the stock MAF sensor (or a 2G for a 1G car) it will give a + or - 60% fuel adjustment over 14 RPM band at 3 different load levels in 1/2% steps. This gives it more capability than other products and room to grow over to more advanced levels, can also use the two things listed below under options

MODE 2 - Translator mode - Mode 2 will allow the use of a GM style MAF sensor like the original MAFT but still give the above tuning options, can also use the two things listed belowunder options


MODE 3 - Full Speed density. This mode will run the car without a MAF sensor at all like the old VPC. It is also fully tunable as in mode 1. To run this mode you will need a GM air temp sensor mounted in the uppipe and a GM or AEM map sensor. We have harnesses available to make installation easy. This mode also give full fuel control based on boost. Can also use the two things listed below under options

Options - There are two options for the MAFT the first is wide band controlled Air/Fuel tracking. With the connection of a wide band like an Innovate LC-1. You can specify a target air/fuel ratio for WOT conditions. The Pro will then monitor a/f ratio and adjust accordingly while going down the track. For example, if I want the car to run at 11.6 to 1 I specify that (I can pick differnet values across the RPM range) while going down the track if the car starts to get lean the Pro will add fuel if it gets rich it will take it away. For meth users it will lean it out while the meth is spraying. This is awesome. The unit is preconfigured for most popular wide band units.

The other option is closed loop boost control. You can add a harness and a solenoid and then specify whetever boost level you like and the Pro keeps it there. There is gain, TPS and other boost related controls as well.

Unit comes with full software and cable to connect to a PC for datalogging and programming if you do not wish to use the front panel buttons.

Keydiver also has a PRO chip that is available NOW that allows you to control ignition timing from the front panel when using the Pro making this a very complete tuning solution

So you can have fuel control, timing control, Closed loop Air/fuel control, and closed loop boost controller with full speed density if you like.

If you have more questions please post them here or call me at 586 790 4406

Mike

 

[JiggahMan]

Jebus, I was unaware of the tunablility of the MAFT Pro. I am currently running a MAFT 1.3, with out anything but an AFC. Sounds like I will be going with this as a cheap solution to ignition control and speed density!

 

[Mike Licht]

You can see software screen shots and more info at www.maftpro.com.
Mike

 

[dnhieu]

this doesnt sound very user friendly. can you explain how user friendly this thing is?

thanks in advance
david

 

[Mike Licht]

User friendly how? It is an advanced tuning tool so there are lots of adjustments. It is very easy to use however and onc it is set up fuel tuning is two buttons on the front
Mike

 

[94Jettameowpsst]

Wow, i wish this thing was out before i spent my money on an afc, and maft 2.03......damn. Looks very nice

 

[sunflashx]

Can a 3.5 or 5 bar map sensor be used with the MAFT Pro?

 

[Stapl3]

Any real life testing? The maftpro forum looks real dead for something that's been out for awhile.

 

[Mike Licht]

Yes the code for the 3.5 and 5 bar sensors are already in the unit. There is about 100 units out there on cars now fastest one went 8.90 (turbo LS1 car) lots of Buicks in the 10's alreadt. I know of a DSM that made 720HP on the dyno just using this and a keydiver chip for tuning
Mike

 

[98spydert]

Peak power is nice and all but what about drivability? Afterall, most people on this forum use their DSMs for DDs or at least weekend cruising.

 

[Stapl3]

Mike, that's great and all, but is there anyone testing it out on a dsm that can post here. We need some information man.

Oh, what happened to scamchargers?

 

[Mike Licht]

There is quite a few DSM units out there now. Bob has one on his Stealth and drives it everyday My Buick starts runs and drives better than stock. The amount of adjustability make the drivability easy to get right. Some of the guys post on our message baord, Evo M had a MAFT Pro section some good info there
Mike

 

[pballer]

on the maftpro site it kinda seems like the logging capabilities are kinda limited, do you wish to expand?

 

[Mike Licht]

It logs everything that the unit controls, air/fuel, boost, rpm, throttle position what are you after?
Mike

 

[Raph]

keep the infos coming,this is going to be my next purchase

 

[cdale]

Now correct me if I'm wrong, I belive I read that I can ditch just the Translator and get the Pro and hook it directly to my GM Maf... is this true. I don't quite want to bite the bullet for the speed density but it sounds like a more advanced way to tune than the MafT and AFC, atleast alittle more consolidated. Is the box of the Pro simular in size as the MafT? I know have my MafT mounted in my center console in the little hide away cubby and would like to mount this there in it's place.
More general info would be much appreciated.
Thanks

 

[BISHILVR]

This is my next purchase too, so far though I cant find anybody that wants to talk about the thing, and eveyone I've asked about it knows nothing of it and dont know anyone that has one or has used one. Give us more info if you can.

 

[Raph]

exactley, keep this thread up i want to know more! someone on here must be using the map sensor function.

 

[Mike Licht]

Now correct me if I'm wrong, I belive I read that I can ditch just the Translator and get the Pro and hook it directly to my GM Maf... is this true. I don't quite want to bite the bullet for the speed density but it sounds like a more advanced way to tune than the MafT and AFC, atleast alittle more consolidated. Is the box of the Pro simular in size as the MafT? I know have my MafT mounted in my center console in the little hide away cubby and would like to mount this there in it's place.
More general info would be much appreciated.
Thanks

You can ditch the translator and the sensor too if you get a Pro. It is a little bigger
Mike

 

[Mike Licht]

What sort of info do you need?
Mike

 

[cdale]

You can ditch the translator and the sensor too if you get a Pro. It is a little bigger
Mike

How would it work if I didn't want to go full speed density right now?

 

[BISHILVR]

I guess what I want is for someone to "sell" me on this thing. I would like to see more input from people that are using it. It seems like it was released and then everyone ignored it like it was a joke or something. A few big names using it would'nt hurt either, that would make some of us feel better about investing in it. So SELL this thing to me.

 

[44pirate]

My questions are.
1. Wideband LM1 control. What additional parts would I need to accomplish this.
2. Speed density. If I were to get MAFPRO and speed density, what parts would I need and how much would it be altogether.
3. How would I monitor all of this? Can I still use my Pocketlogger m550? Would I need a computer or laptop as well?

Currently I have MAFT, Pocketlogger. I can see the benefits this would be for me.
Also how would this work with Meth Injection system/

Thanks
George

 

[cdale]

My questions are.
1. Wideband LM1 control. What additional parts would I need to accomplish this.
2. Speed density. If I were to get MAFPRO and speed density, what parts would I need and how much would it be altogether.
3. How would I monitor all of this? Can I still use my Pocketlogger m550? Would I need a computer or laptop as well?

Currently I have MAFT, Pocketlogger. I can see the benefits this would be for me.
Also how would this work with Meth Injection system/

Thanks
George

+1
I'm running this same system and would like a package with cost on what it would take to do both of the options above.

Sorry for the long post, I also posted my same questions from my post above (post #16) and got this responce at the Fullthrottle forums.

Yes, the "Translator Mode" was built into the unit for this purpose.

There is no premade harness for this mode yet, since everyone has gone with speed density so far. The wiring connections are very straightforward, however.

You will gain a bunch of tuning capability, logging, AFR control, boost control, etc.

The box is a little bigger then the MAFT's

There are complete tuning controls for the injector size correction, etc.

Bob

 

[yangtech]

so with this i wouldnt need my logger or a safc..? also does the wirings go all the way to the inside of the car..?