Installation of my turbo stuff

[VelocitàPaola]

huh?

 

[napkinthief]

Do I need a restrictor because I am using a -4an line?

 

[DSMcrazy3]

You'll be fine without it.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

You'll be fine without it.

Where did you come from? I was just about to respond...

 

[WMD]

I would guess the motor was on it's way out already, in order for the gas to leak past the rings and get into the oil period.

true, but 5 ten-thousands out of factory spec isnt that bad.

 

[Talon ESI-T]

The flange on the stock downpipe is not cast. It can be welded with a MIG with no problems. I have welded quite a few. THe manifold is cast however and can be welded by someone who is experienced in it. Welding cast has a few techniques that must be followed in order for the weld to last.

Terry

 

[napkinthief]

Well I will not be welding cast because I just dont know how, and I dont want it to break on me somewhere. I am going to cut the flange off the stock downpipe off and weld on a 90* bend and connect that to the turbo.


If anyone decides to get a intercooler kit off ebay do not buy from jdmcarrier. I won the auction on the 17th, paid on the 18th, and got the intercooler yesterday the 28th. He supposedly sent 2 packages one with the pipes and bov and one with the intercooler and I only got one of them. I contacted fedex, and they said there is no other package coming to me. I contacted the seller just a few minutes ago and now I am waiting for a response. The intercooler seems to be of decent quality, but it was a little banged up, poorly polished endtanks, and a few bent fins. There was also some kind of black dust inside which I had to blow out using compressed air. If I had not noticed it, there would be that dust, which i think is metal, floating around my oil.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

How would that get in your oil? If it's in your intercooler, it would stay in the intake tract. It would be forced into the combustion chamber, but if it's dust like you said, I doubt it would have much, if any negative effect. It would probably burn away on its first trip through.

 

[napkinthief]

I am sorry it was more like dust when you sand metal, So I thought it would be harmful.

 

[napkinthief]

I started backing all the bolts out of the manifold, and got them all out, but I cant get the big downpipe bolts out. I loosed one, but the other one wont budge at all. I soaked it in about half a can of pb blaster, 10 times 30 minutes apart. It just wont go, I was thinking of filling a plastic cup with the blaster and taping the cup under the manifold over night, but I just dont think its going to come out. what else can I do?

 

[VelocitàPaola]

I started backing all the bolts out of the manifold, and got them all out, but I cant get the big downpipe bolts out. I loosed one, but the other one wont budge at all. I soaked it in about half a can of pb blaster, 10 times 30 minutes apart. It just wont go, I was thinking of filling a plastic cup with the blaster and taping the cup under the manifold over night, but I just dont think its going to come out. what else can I do?

Haha... I know exactly which bolt you're talking about. I had my beast of a friend break it loose after being soaked in WD-40 for just 10 minutes... this is the same friend that told me he "tightened" all of the oil fittings - go figure.

Unfortunately, there isn't enough clearance there to get a breaker bar over the wrench you're using. I recommend either soaking it in more PBlaster and using brute force, or rinsing the bolt with some water (so you don't catch the engine on fire) and heating it with a torch.

 

[napkinthief]

I may try the torch thing tommorrow, I got a bigger problem now. My friend lost his welding job and has no access to a welder now, and my pos ebay lincoln electric welder is not working. I have no welder to make my downpipe, and only about 30 bucks until next week. I dont think this turbo is going to be done by april 1st anymore. its like I pass one hill and theres 3 more mountains up ahead.


EDIT I just found my acetylene/oxygen welding torch. I have no clue how to use this thing, anyone got a link to a guide for it or something. I am going to try to use this to weld up my downpipe....sad me.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

EDIT I just found my acetylene/oxygen welding torch. I have no clue how to use this thing, anyone got a link to a guide for it or something. I am going to try to use this to weld up my downpipe....sad me.

That's mostly a cutting torch; it'd be pretty hard to weld an exhaust together with it... wait for a way to have it MIG or TIG welded.

 

[napkinthief]

Ive seen at home depot there are electric mig welders that run off household outlets, but they are going for around 350+. Anyone have or know what I am talking about? That way I can just pick it up, weld up anything I need, and take it back with all the original stuff.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

Dude you're asking for it. It isn't right to buy a product, especially one that expensive, use it and return it. Chances are you won't even get a refund for it because they will be able to tell you used it. You will have wire fed it, and the tip will have some evidence that it was used. Do you not have a muffler shop near by?

 

[napkinthief]

I already tried that. I went there when I was still n/a and asked him for a 3" exhaust all the way back, he wanted 600$. I told him I could get a greddy for that price and he said ok go get one and pretty much kicked me out.


I was planning on getting all the parts that came with the welder, putting them aside and using the tips and wire I have already. So when I return the whole thing, all the parts they included with the setup would still be there.


Anyone live in my area, Bergen or Hudson county, NJ and know of a decent shop that wont rip me off?

 

[VelocitàPaola]

I already tried that. I went there when I was still n/a and asked him for a 3" exhaust all the way back, he wanted 600$. I told him I could get a greddy for that price and he said ok go get one and pretty much kicked me out.


I was planning on getting all the parts that came with the welder, putting them aside and using the tips and wire I have already. So when I return the whole thing, all the parts they included with the setup would still be there.


Anyone live in my area, Bergen or Hudson county, NJ and know of a decent shop that wont rip me off?

Just call around... I didn't have a welder on hand either so I went to a local performance exhaust shop. They charged about $70 an hour. If you set up all the piping for a similar shop, it shouldn't take more than half an hour or so.

By the way, they have those 110V welders on eBay for like $60-$150 - flux core but with argon/CO2 option. They're not from Lincoln or Miller anything, but they don't look too bad. I keep convincing myself not to buy one... I don't know why, I could've used it a million times by now. Search for "Chicago Electric" on eBay.

 

[WMD]

That's mostly a cutting torch; it'd be pretty hard to weld an exhaust together with it... wait for a way to have it MIG or TIG welded.

pphht, I welded my exhaust together with an oxy-acetylene torch, im just that cool . takes about 4 hours longer though

nap, did you try tightening the bolt first? Ive gotten peskey nut/bolts out that way. Ive also found it easer if I just spray the bolt/nut with WD-40 three to four times a day for about 5 days. I had to do this with the main surpentien/timing pully on the crank. "Slow and steady wins the race"

 

[napkinthief]

Yea I for a few minutes I thought I had the wrench going the wrong way since th nut was upside down and I was tightening it, but it didn't budge either way.

4 hours on an oxy torch, how much damn oxygen did you use? When I was messing with it, I had about 3/4 of a bottle and it was gone in about 15 minutes. It eats right through thin metal though. Aluminum didn;t stand a chance, and the steel lasted a little but the welds were shoddy. I spot welded 2 straight steel pipes on 4 spots around. With very little pressure they snapped. I prepped the surface with some 100 grit sandpaper and made a good vgroove on it.

I am thinking about the ebay option. I am going to go look with my friend for some welding shops now.

 

[WMD]

4 hours on an oxy torch, how much damn oxygen did you use?

Size T 330 cubic feet, But thank god I didn't use it all, just a significant amount.
And i'll tell you what, I was drenched in sweat and my welding gloves were smoldering.

Oh and i didnt use a v grove, thats a pain in the a$$ to use with an oxy tourch, I used a pipe expander and slipped one on to the other. Oxy works really well on thin metal, but will never work on Al. I think welders mostly use tig on that.

 

[napkinthief]

Ok so if I sleeve the pipes over one another, what else do I need. Is there wire or anything. Do I heat both pipes on the edge or melt one over the other? I have electrode sticks for arc welding I think, but I dunno if I should mess with them. I tried using one and it started sparking and not melting right, maybe I had the temp wrong. My bottles are damn small. 16oz

 

[VelocitàPaola]

Ok so if I sleeve the pipes over one another, what else do I need. Is there wire or anything. Do I heat both pipes on the edge or melt one over the other? I have electrode sticks for arc welding I think, but I dunno if I should mess with them. I tried using one and it started sparking and not melting right, maybe I had the temp wrong. My bottles are damn small. 16oz

I can't believe you're actually considering this... you might as well make a temporary downpipe out of pressbends, couplers and exhaust clamps from Autozone until you can get more funds in order to make a proper downpipe.

 

[Talon ESI-T]

DO not try to oxy weld a downpipe. IF you want low quality then do as V stated and clamp everything together. Once clamped together take it to a welding shop and ask them to mig the pipes.

If you really arent in a hurry ship the assy together to me, I will mig it together and ship it right back to you. You cover shipping and buy me a case of Corona and we call it even.

Terry

 

[napkinthief]

Well the downpipe I will be making is going to be on the car for less than a month. I am going to upgrade to a full 3inch exhaust as my next step. I found an evo2 for a gst for 100 bucks, just has a dent in it which I am going to cut out and replace with a 3" straight piece. Then I will have a good ss downpipe made for it. I just really dont want to wait another month to turbo.

 

[napkinthief]

can i do more than 8 psi with water injection on stock internals? I have a good cheap deal on one setup a honda guy bought and is not going to use