Installation of my turbo stuff

[DSMcrazy3]

Turbo seals = gone. Sorry man, now you know why you got the deal that you got...Unless you paid alot for that turbo. Go ahead and start searching.

If you're going to give up after you've come this far, don't even bother buying another DSM. You know they aren't the most reliable things out there. This stuff could happen again, then what will you do?

Tuff it out and get this thing going.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

If you're going to give up after you've come this far, don't even bother buying another DSM. You know they aren't the most reliable things out there. This stuff could happen again, then what will you do?

Tuff it out and get this thing going.

Yep... you said it. I think you're just frustrated Nap. No one said this was going to be easy and there is certainly no guarantee that working with any other DSM will be easy either.

Like Josh said, you've come this far, so finish the project and be done with it. Then you can finally enjoy all that you've worked so hard for.

 

[97eclipsesleepr]

thast the truth, just rebuild the turbo, dosent make sense to come this far and just stop.

 

[napkinthief]

If I run the turbo as is will it build boost or not? I may look for a small t3/t4 turbo that will spool quicker because right now I am not in need of super high lbs of boost or anything, just want a quick spool to 8 psi. That would give me time to rebuild this one and slowly gather money for the engine rebuild.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

Yeah it will build boost, but the more boost it builds the more it will smoke.

look, right now the seals in the turbo aren't sealing properly and oil is getting by them, being burned off. That was at idle I take it. When you build boost, not only the air pressure rises, but as RPM increases so does oil pressure, so if oil is getting out at 50psi, when you build boost you'll be going from 75-100 psi. It won't be fun. Especially at stop lights. The seals in my first turbo went bad, so trust me, I know what it's like.

I'll see if I can find any turbo's on sale anywhere.

 

[napkinthief]

Ok heres an update, I am going to chill for now and just worry about another problem I am having right now. Something is up with my timing belt, from idle - around 2k rpms, it rattles like the tension on it is not right. After 2k rpms there is no problem. I may just tighten it up since there is less than 15k on the belt.

I was thinking about finding a smaller turbo, same t3/t4 model, but not as big, so I can get some faster spool. What do you think?

As for the turbo i have right now, I pulled it and my car is back on the stock manifold and downpipe. The turbo I have right now does not spin at idle, it starts spinning around 3400 rpms. I am not sure if thats how a turbo works, but I am pretty sure something is wrong. I will be taking apart the turbo within the next couple days and I will have pics for you guys, and maybe even a rebuild guide. I love making guides Anyway, if anyone sees some t3/t4 lemme know. I dont really have too much to spend right now, which is why I wanted to run this as is.

Also, I am looking for a star downpipe, or a 3" downpipe for a t3/t4

 

[DSMcrazy3]

Anytime the car is running exhaust is going to be coming out and the turbo should be spinning, anytime.

If you want smaller get a T3. Most T3's I've seen spool around 2,700-2,900 and inbetween.

 

[Blitzeclips]

Why don't you find a T25 turbo for now, until you get moremoney to upgrade. It's a small yet nice turbo that can hit 8psi quickly. Also, you can find it at a decent price.
Don't let the problems get in your way nap, it'll be worth it when completed. Keep it up, it will all work out.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

Going with any turbo other than the garrett type T3 or T3/T4 will not only require fabrication to the manifold, but also the purchasing of more parts. In the end he will have most likely spent more money and time to temporarily run the T-25, than he would have spent to just get a T3 or T3/T4.

 

[napkinthief]

I dunno there is just something about t3/t4s I like. Also t25 would require a downpipe, different manifold.

As for the turbo, if its not spinning and blowing oil, what would I need to rebuild. I will take it apart tommorrow and see whats broken in it. If its too much, then I will get another, if its only seals and a bearing, I will fix it, and get it balanced.

Where can I get a star downpipe? Does star have a website?

Also blitz, you seem to be around the forum alot, but have nothing in you profile and overall you seem to give bad responses to many, I would suggest to you that you either actually try to install a turbo in your car, if you can work up the balls, or just read everything and keep your responses to yourself. If I were new to this site, and the dsm world, I might take your opinion into consideration and do something stupid.

 

[Randomrage]

Wow, thats a bit harsh innit?

Anyway, like the other guys said, dont give up on it mate, itll all be worth it when you get it done.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

As for the turbo, if its not spinning and blowing oil, what would I need to rebuild. I will take it apart tommorrow and see whats broken in it. If its too much, then I will get another, if its only seals and a bearing, I will fix it, and get it balanced...

Where can I get a star downpipe? Does star have a website?

Most rebuild kits come with all necessary seals, gaskets and bearings. Other than that, there isn't much to rebuild - assuming you haven't destroyed the shaft or impeller blades somehow. A good rebuild kit followed by a balance can be quite a bit of money, though, (~$100 for the kit and ~$100-$200 for the balance). You might be better off buying a whole new turbo.

Also, Star has no website that I'm aware of. In fact, I believe they've officially gone out of business. The only places you can find them are vendors that kept old stock around, or companies that build similar kits under a different name.

 

[napkinthief]

Damn dsmtuners has been down for a while. Heres whats up...

My timing belt tensioner, the hydraulic part, was not being hydraulic enough and my timing belt kept flapping around. I posted a vid on 2gnt. The sad part is, the damage has already been done after the first time I turned the car on and noticed there was a noise. The belt jumped one tooth on the intake cam and destroyed 5 intake valves. I am pretty pissed and really do not feel like paying for a new head right now, and I am pretty broke. I found a great deal on a gsx, 5g, hooked up 16g, 3" turbo back, safc2, 550s, tein ss c.o, apexi tt, act 2600, act lightweight flywheel, and other mods. I think its time to get rid of this nt thats been costing me so much and just buy something with the power already in it.

As for my n/t and my turbo kit. I will sell the kit for 800. That includes pipes, intercooler, blown 57 trim, hks bov, star manifold, half ass downpipe, tial 38mm, and 12:1 vortech. If anyone is interested itll be on ebay in the coming week, just gotta get everything pictured up.

I gotta make at least 2800 on the actual car, which I hope I can. Itll go on ebay for 3g soon.

This isn't a good bye, but its an upgrade I guess. The gsx is just more power than I will probably ever make out of the n/t and its the best decision I can come to right now. Thanks for all your help guys, and hopefully, I would still be able to contribute to the nt community.

 

[cs82685]

Sorry to hear about all the problems

Damn dsmtuners has been down for a while. Heres whats up...

As for my n/t and my turbo kit. I will sell the kit for 800. That includes pipes, intercooler, blown 57 trim, hks bov, star manifold, half ass downpipe, tial 38mm, and 12:1 vortech. If anyone is interested itll be on ebay in the coming week, just gotta get everything pictured up.

If you end up not selling the kit as a whole, I may be interested in taking the FMIC off your hands, possibly even the tial wg.

 

[Blitzeclips]

I dunno there is just something about t3/t4s I like. Also t25 would require a downpipe, different manifold.

As for the turbo, if its not spinning and blowing oil, what would I need to rebuild. I will take it apart tommorrow and see whats broken in it. If its too much, then I will get another, if its only seals and a bearing, I will fix it, and get it balanced.

Where can I get a star downpipe? Does star have a website?

Also blitz, you seem to be around the forum alot, but have nothing in you profile and overall you seem to give bad responses to many, I would suggest to you that you either actually try to install a turbo in your car, if you can work up the balls, or just read everything and keep your responses to yourself. If I were new to this site, and the dsm world, I might take your opinion into consideration and do something stupid.

Wow Nap you're a real piece of shit. I was trying to offer a suggestion to your problem but apparently you know everything. Please read my profile correctly and realize I installed everything on the car myself. There are alot more mods on there then you have. Trust me. I have had my car much longer then you. I don't see where you come off being an ass because the info I have given didn't meet your expectations. I'm glad your little project f*ed up now, serves you right. Ashame you can't complete a project and just quit. BTW, I have installed turbos before, more then both your hands can count, so please keep the condescendance to yourself. Oh and one more thing, you are newer to this site then I am you botard. That post number should count the times you talk about yourself, and your car, ONLY. You give rfer to false information in the post to bash someone who gives false information??? I have yet to see a post from you not concerning yourself or referring to yourself yet.

 

[XMasta19]

...and that post was quite unnecessary

 

[L2RTSiAWD]

He's done. This thread is done.