Installation of my turbo stuff

[napkinthief]

Ok I just went outside to see if I could bolt up my 1g smic just to get everything ready so when my manifold comes in I can bolt up the turbo and make the turbo to ic piping and be ready to go. There are a few problems though.

First of all the IC wont go into place correctly. It goes into the area on the driver side in the last hole, but sticks down about 2". Do I have to cut the bent outlet of the ic to make it stick up like a 2g smic? I took out the little air duct from the stock intake under the fuse box, do I route the piping through the factory hole where the wires from the fuse box go?

Another thing, I am using 2" piping, how do I connect it to the tb and turbo? A silicone reducer?

I tried to see if I can loosen the exhaust manifold bolts and just couldn;t get them to budge. Would it be a problem if I use pb blaster now and every night and do the install in 2 weeks, or would that just make everything easier?

 

[XMasta19]

pb blaster soaking in will most defintely help...so would some muscles


what turbo you running again...I have the T3 Super 60 Trim, and my compressor outlet is still only 2". You can get a 2.5-2" silicone elbow reducer for coming off the throttle body

 

[napkinthief]

I think its a 57 trim, but the compressor is weird has a 1.75 opening, then opens to 2.5 with a step. Hard to explain Ill post a pic later i gtg to work now.


like this though

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[selmerguy]

I think its a 57 trim, but the compressor is weird has a 1.75 opening, then opens to 2.5 with a step. Hard to explain Ill post a pic later i gtg to work now.


like this though

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Glad you are getting started nap. Be careful with those exhause mani bolts. If you strip one in the head you will have problems. Many turbos have step on the outlet this is normal.
You can route your piping however you wish. Most people with custom kits do it a little different. That is what makes it cool.
A reducer is what you need from your turbo to pipe aswell as your pipe to tb. You MUST use silicone or radiator hose material for the one on the turbo. The mani will melt those rubber ones. Good luck and remember we are here for you.

 

[XMasta19]

Be careful with those exhause mani bolts. If you strip one in the head you will have problems.

I have an exhaust leak from my lower right manifold bolt...well, when my car is running.




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[napkinthief]

I chopped off one of the pipes that come out of the endtank on the ic, to make it straight up instead of 90*, which hopefully makes it easier to route the pipe.

I am getting a manifold with an external gate setup, which would be best for my application? I am trying to stay under 100$ for the wastegate, and looking for it used. I have a deltagate offer for 50$ that I am thinking about.

Also, I moved my intake pipe today to look at how I am going to route my piping, and I noticed a bov looking thing near the valve cover, is it my fpr? I have pics I am going to resize and post.

 

[napkinthief]

First pic is of the thing I think is an FPR. If so I gotta redo my fuel system.




Second pic is of the hole under the fusebox that I am thinking of running a 2" pipe through, would there be any problems? It would be the cold side of the intercooler just incase so the wires wont burn

 

[napkinthief]

Sorry one more pic
Heres the beast that will be powering my rst.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

Maybe it's this old monitor I'm using... but those pictures suck. I can barely make out everything in the first one; as for the second one...

 

[napkinthief]

I can see everything on my computer, are they too dark or too light or what? I got photoshop cs I can fix em.

 

[napkinthief]

I made them lighter here.

 

[VelocitàPaola]

They look too dark... but wait for everyone else's response - I wasn't being sarcastic above; maybe it really is this old monitor I'm using (this isn't my usual computer).

 

[VelocitàPaola]

Oh wow. Ok, that's much better.

 

[selmerguy]

That first pic is not your fpr. That is the egr valve. Your fpr is either on the timing belt side of your fuel rail or in the back by the tank. This depends on when in 96 your car was made.

 

[napkinthief]

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Can I use that as an o2 housing without having an internal wastegate setup or would it conflict? It would really cut down fabrication time, and its cast so I can port it.

 

[selmerguy]

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Can I use that as an o2 housing without having an internal wastegate setup or would it conflict? It would really cut down fabrication time, and its cast so I can port it.

I would not use that. It wont bold directly to your factory dp. Also you dont want to use that factord dp it is to small and very restrictive. Talon esi-t makes a downpipe for the star kits. Talk to him.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

That also had a flapper assembly attatched to it, for internal wastegate set-up. You said you will be running an external. All you need for the downpipe should be a 5 bolt flange for T3's...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-...043115402QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That blocks off the bypass hole on the turbine housing that the flapper would normally cover. You just get the downpipe welded to that.

 

[cs82685]

your probably gonna have to open that hole up a bit by the wires so that the wires and the intercooler piping fit comfortably in there, but that does seem to be were most people run their piping through for a sidemount and you can get that 45 degree bend on the 1g smic to go through there, unless if that's the one you already cut

 

[napkinthief]

Yes that is the one I cut, but no it wont fit there because the other inlet on the ic would be stuck behind the horn.

Also the factory downpipe is the same size as the rest of my exhaust so how would getting a bigger downpipe decrease the restriction if it just gets narrowed down at the end.

 

[DSMcrazy3]

I didn't use that hole. I chopped alittle of the frame off on the side.

I had the IC outlet facing upwards and the pipe was sort of a J shape so it came off the IC and turned to go out and it went through the hole where the air box used to be. Here's a pic of the Sidemount so you can see where and how I mounted mine.(it's a 2g though) and then the hole my IC pipe comes out of.

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[selmerguy]

Yes that is the one I cut, but no it wont fit there because the other inlet on the ic would be stuck behind the horn.

Also the factory downpipe is the same size as the rest of my exhaust so how would getting a bigger downpipe decrease the restriction if it just gets narrowed down at the end.

It wont. So you are turboing your ride and you havent done exhaust yet?????? That is going to kill that nice turbo. Do your self a favor and put a cutout or cat back on that thing.

 

[napkinthief]

Thats part of my project. I just cant get it through my head that exhaust makes that much of a difference. I am going to do the turbo on the stock exhaust system, then get an aftermarket 3" and see and record what the differences are. I need to find a dyno in my area that doesn't charge an arm and a leg.

 

[napkinthief]

I didn't use that hole. I chopped alittle of the frame off on the side.

I had the IC outlet facing upwards and the pipe was sort of a J shape so it came off the IC and turned to go out and it went through the hole where the air box used to be. Here's a pic of the Sidemount so you can see where and how I mounted mine.(it's a 2g though) and then the hole my IC pipe comes out of.

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Those pics really do help, I was trying to put the IC deeper into the engine bay area than you are, about 2" from the fans. Did you cover up that plastic trim from the wheel well or leave it open?

 

[DSMcrazy3]

Nah I mutilated that thing awhile back haha.. I would advise going my way, instead of drilling that hole you're talking about out. Much easier this way.

 

[BigRand]

Hey about the exhaust, I would not, I repeat would not even think about putting the turbo on it with less than 2.5" piping.

Please go find a GST and least throw that on, because I have seen people blow their turbo's on the same day as install because they didn't open the exhaust up.

Turbulence and heat will come back to haunt you with the stock exhaust.

Your exhaust temps will reach 1200-1600 degrees F (depending where you source) under normal boost conditions, and will be much hotter with a smaller exhaust.

The bigger exhaust isnt' about performance, as much as it is about effeciancey. The more air you can get out the more you can get in, and when your forcing air in, you want to get it out as quickly and effeciantly as possible.