I wanna lower my ride... so what options do I got?

[ivj]

Basically I was browsing for stuff for my eclipse online and I found these coilovers on ebay for less than $10:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-9...ryZ33582QQihZ008QQitemZ180031045164QQtcZphoto

I don't get it, slowboyracing sells what looks pretty much the same for almost $300:

http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id=1339&

So what's the difference?

Also, how can you lower your car with those? Is the springs what's holding it in the air? I thought it was the strut bar (or whatever you call that bar in the middle). Also, if you put in these coilovers - where does that bar go? Do you completely remove it????

Also they sell just the springs. I understand you use springs with the strut bars (or shocks, I'm not sure of the name).

So can somebody clear this up for me? What's a good way to go?

 

[RWKustoms]

Dude what slowboy is selling are Skunk2 Coilovers for 00-up Eclipses and what you are looking at on Ebay are the cheap coilovers that you shouldn't even think of putting on your car.

 

[RWKustoms]

Also, how can you lower your car with those? Is the springs what's holding it in the air? I thought it was the strut bar (or whatever you call that bar in the middle). Also, if you put in these coilovers - where does that bar go? Do you completely remove it????

Also they sell just the springs. I understand you use springs with the strut bars (or shocks, I'm not sure of the name).

So can somebody clear this up for me? What's a good way to go?

Those are struts and not strut bars. You can either lower your car by using lowering springs or a coilover setup. A good way to go depends on your goals and what you will be using your car for. Is this your daily driver or is it something that you'll be taking to the track? I guess it's a Spyder so it might just be your daily driver.

 

[kspharris]

The shock/strut are basically the same thing and the spring sits on a perch attached to the strut/shock and that is what sets your ride height. If you get lowering springs then you basically get a shorter spring. If you get coilover springs then you can adjust your height. You take out your old spring and put in your new one and tada, your car is lowered. Of course it is not as easy as it sounds. Make sure if you do this yourself, GET SPRING COMPRESSORS so you don't get knocked out or something. The two coilovers that you are looking at are pretty much the same except for the name. Hope this helps and if you have any more questions PM me.

 

[boostedtsi0069]

well the difference is the name .. the quality might be better on the slow boy coilovers but if your having $$$ problems just go with ebay they get the job done just the same its like having shaquille oneal shoes instead of jordans.

 

[4BangR-x]

well the difference is the name .. the quality might be better on the slow boy coilovers but if your having $$$ problems just go with ebay they get the job done just the same its like having shaquille oneal shoes instead of jordans.

NO, IT IS NOT JUST THE SAME. You should have never even looked at those springs/coilovers, whatever the hell they are. Its under 10 dollars!??!?!?! Im guessing you would die if you drive around with those. You would be better off cutting your stock springs(Im not saying this is a good idea). Your options are, get yourself some springs and struts at the same time. Lower it the right way. Get coil over sleeves(Skunk2), full coilovers(Tein, JIC, Tanabe), regualr springs(Eibach, H&R), or suspension kits which is a matched spring and shock(tokico).

It would save you time and maybe money, if you installed struts with your springs. Not to mention the peace of mind knowing you did it right the first time.

 

[EclipseTrbo420A]

Spring rates first. Call Koni and tell them what you want to do and they will set you up with what you want. Koni/Ground control coilovers (eibach coil springs) are proven. You will have their advise on spirng rates and which shock to use.

I run AGX's with 450 front and 275 rears. I like it for the street. They havnt had anytrack time though.

Or get the tien basics and be done.

 

[ivj]

Ok I'm hearing mixed opinions regarding ebay vs slowboy products...

From what I'm seeing, they're both made from aluminum, look exactly the same, except one costs about 30 times more than the other. 30 FKING TIMES MORE. Is there really a justified quality factor for this kind of price deviation?

Also, I'm still not getting the whole coilover vs spring thing.

Ok, the suspension assembly, as far as I understand, is just a strut, with a spring outside of it. A coilover, as I understand, is just an adjustable spring. Am I on the right track?

Also, what's the point of getting new struts? Are they somehow better than my factory ones? Don't they just dampen the bumps by compressing air?

Also, the coilover seem to have some sort of a giant screw in the middle. What the hell is that? How does the strut go through that?

 

[ivj]

Oh also, don't I need something to adjust my tire angle? I think it's called camber or something? Oh and it's a daily driver btw, but I don't do like commuting in it I work from home, so...

 

[diablos991]

Ok I'm hearing mixed opinions regarding ebay vs slowboy products...

From what I'm seeing, they're both made from aluminum, look exactly the same, except one costs about 30 times more than the other. 30 FKING TIMES MORE. Is there really a justified quality factor for this kind of price deviation?

Also, I'm still not getting the whole coilover vs spring thing.

Ok, the suspension assembly, as far as I understand, is just a strut, with a spring outside of it. A coilover, as I understand, is just an adjustable spring. Am I on the right track?

Also, what's the point of getting new struts? Are they somehow better than my factory ones? Don't they just dampen the bumps by compressing air?

Also, the coilover seem to have some sort of a giant screw in the middle. What the hell is that? How does the strut go through that?

The search button will be very useful to you in finding out the answers to your questions.

 

[4BangR-x]

Ok I'm hearing mixed opinions regarding ebay vs slowboy products...

From what I'm seeing, they're both made from aluminum, look exactly the same, except one costs about 30 times more than the other. 30 FKING TIMES MORE. Is there really a justified quality factor for this kind of price deviation?

YES

Also, I'm still not getting the whole coilover vs spring thing.

Ok, the suspension assembly, as far as I understand, is just a strut, with a spring outside of it. A coilover, as I understand, is just an adjustable spring. Am I on the right track?

To get specific, your suspension is already a coilover. That refers to the spring coil being around or over the strut. An aftermarket coilover is ussually adjustable. By adjustable springs, they are refering to adjustable spring height. This is adjusted by raising or lowering a ring on a threaded coller. On most, the shock can also be adjusted for stiffness. You can make it stiffer by turning a dial on the top of the shock to a higher number.

Also, what's the point of getting new struts? Are they somehow better than my factory ones? Don't they just dampen the bumps by compressing air?

When you lower a car, you also need shortend struts. Most aftermarket struts are shorter, but not all are. You can research that by searching our forums. Also, struts are a wear and tear item, they become less effective at doing their job over time. It is always a great idea to get new shocks when you lower the car.

Also, the coilover seem to have some sort of a giant screw in the middle. What the hell is that? How does the strut go through that?

Are u refering to the screw ontop of the strut, or the threaded coller on the aluminum spring perch?

 

[jredgo1234]

Yes the quality of the skunk2's is extremely bettter. The other ones don't even have a brand? The skunk2's have a warranty, and the company is actually known instead of a generic ebay company.

http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com/suspensionparts.shtml

Look on this page, the agx's are shocks/struts. Then if you scroll down you can see some springs. Yes with coilovers you have somplete control of hight and stiffness.

Better shocks/struts will dampen the stiffer springs, when the stock ones can't do the job. Some have adjustable dampening. And they are filled with fluid.

You can see some camber adjustment options on the link i gave you.

 

[DSMunknown]

I found these coilovers on ebay

Be very careful what you buy off of Ebay.



Please read post #4 on this thread

 

[4BangR-x]

Oh also, don't I need something to adjust my tire angle? I think it's called camber or something? Oh and it's a daily driver btw, but I don't do like commuting in it I work from home, so...

Search the board for different camber/caster/toe settings. Everyones preferences are different. Go browse the handling forum and get an idea of what others are doing.

 

[Ludachris]

It sounds like you're new to modifying cars. If you're low on cash, just get some lowering springs. I personally wouldn't buy a set of cheap coilovers. Do you really want to take a chance of them failing? It could be a fatal mistake. If your main concern is just looks, get some lowering springs and new struts (shocks). It will be cheaper than a set of good coilovers and it's safer.

 

[ivj]

Well I'm not getting ready to buy this stuff yet... I don't even have my tranny fixed yet, i'm just browsing for ideas.

FUnny when I owned a Camry I never considered spending more than $100 on my car per year... Now I'm spending about that much per day And I love it.

Oh crap, as I'm writing this message UPS truck pulled up and delivered my new short shifter. Yay, $40. My friend's a WRX and he paid $160 for a short shifter and installation, i'll do it myself. Wee hee double horsepower here we come

 

[dsmputz]

Take the lesson I learned from $40 ebay coilovers. Bought them thinkin that I just got the greatest deal ever, they smashed around and bottomed out so hard that they cracked the controll arm. The ball joint fell right out the bottom of the controll arm with the snap ring still on it.

 

[ivj]

brrrr

 

[4BangR-x]

Take the lesson I learned from $40 ebay coilovers. Bought them thinkin that I just got the greatest deal ever, they smashed around and bottomed out so hard that they cracked the controll arm. The ball joint fell right out the bottom of the controll arm with the snap ring still on it.

Wow, and think what the 10 dollar coilovers would do

 

[SloWPanda]

i got the tockico 5 way adjustable with 1.5 drop. for 4 75 shipped on ebay. works good for me. DONT get those cheap ebay ones

 

[crazy_skier]

go the agx/prokit combo, I have a nice drop with some wheel gap and the ride is amazing, but is somewhat spendy at $500 off of ebay brand new (about $900 at tires plus)