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2G How To: Replacing shifter lever oil seal

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Moderator note: This works for all Mitsubishi designed transmissions found in DSMs, W5M33, F5M33, F5M31, F5M22, F5M21, and those similar in build, like the W5M31. It may not be applicable to the 420A.

Hey all,

This will be a short how-to guide on how to replace your leaky oil seal that sits right under the shifter lever on your 2G AWD trans. It allows you to change this seal WITHOUT pulling the transmission OFF and APART!!! It's all done with the trans on the car, and the car on the ground! The procedure should be the same for a FWD case, and possibly even easier for 1Gs since they don't use the additional counterweight on top! The seal in question is part number MD747660 for all 2Gs and most 1Gs.

I also want to state that all credit for the procedure goes to Jack and Tim from Jack's Transmission. You can read his comment in this thread: Transmission leaking from gear select lever?

Now, tools you will need, assuming you've already taken off the parts in the way, such as any intake pipes, vacuum lines and possibly catch cans. You need to allow enough room around the shift shaft so you can fit a compact air hammer and a point-tip punch attached to it. No other tool will get the job done. Here's an example of the hammer and punch:
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  • Air Hammer
  • Needle nose pliers
  • 12mm socket
  • Flathead screwdriver (medium sized)
  • Hammer
  • Some sort of strong but small C-clamp or balljoint separating clamp
  • Brake Cleaner to clean up any residual oil and dirt

Now, onto the steps!

Step 1. Remove the two 12mm bolts holding the longitudinal bracket on and tuck both cables away, use a cable tie if needed.

Step 2. Put your air hammer on max power and make sure the tip is tapered enough so that it can touch the metal pins (they are solid hardened steel pins). You will follow the two arrows for where to point the hammer from. If you try to hammer them from the opposite side, you will make them get tighter and risk getting in bigger trouble. Play around with the shifter to put it in different gears so you can get the right angle to work with.

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Step 3. If your hammer punch isn't long and thin enough to fully hammer the pins out, you need to use something like a bolt or other solid type of steel that can go into that hole and allow you to keep hammering on it so you can fully get it out. In my case, we used a big M10 bolt with a torx head and ground part of the bolt down so it can fit and sit flush against the pin. I then used the air hammer on the bolt which in turn pushed the pin out.

Step 4. Now get your C clamp or best is to use a balljoint separator. I placed a small nut in the area circled in red. Start tightening the separator steadily. Keep watching if it starts to slip off or bending stuff it shouldn't! When you can't see the nut anymore, remove the nut and place a longer bolt so you can continue to essentially press the top part of the lever (counterweight) off. It will suddenly pop off from being unseized from the rust.

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Step 5. At this point, I suggest you take some scotch brite to clean the surface on the poking shaft real good. There's a chance the lower part wont slide clean off. In that case, pull it up as much as it will go, then use the same method with the balljoint separator to press it out from the shaft. It should go out smooth and steady.

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Step 6. Pull off the rubber boot and clean it up. Now, you need to pry the seal up. It DOES NOT sit flush with the trans. It's meant to have some space between the case and the lip as seen in the picture above. I used a flathead screwdriver from beneath and hammered on it lightly to push the seal out.

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Step 7. Degrease the surrounding area and the area around the shaft and above the shaft bearing (the bearing sits beneath the oil seal). Oil the inside lip of the new seal just a little and slide it over the shaft. You can tap around the edges lightly until it seats firmly over the bearing, but I personally used a much bigger socket that went over the shaft and I could hammer on it equally to drive the new seal in.

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That's it! You've changed out the damn leaky seal without taking the tranny off and apart! Now, it's a matter of going back through the steps to assemble everything together. One thing I'd like to clarify, the rubber boot needs to sit over the oil seal lip that you can see.

One other note I'd like to make because I forgot to take a picture, the metal press pin is solid but has 3 small slits along half of its length. When you go to put them back in, you need to put the solid end in first and use a small hammer to tap the end with the slits in as far as it will go (not much room to swing a big hammer). Take care not to mushroom the head of the pin. I didn't have a small C-clamp so I used the same balljoint separator to act as a clamp and pressed the pins in almost fully. A bit tricky, but doable!

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That should cover the whole process. I hope this helps!
 

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Maybe I was lucky, but since so many people are having trouble with this approach, disclaimer: YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY. That said, it’s cheap tool and easy to try.

Same procedure as above for the F5M22, F5M31, and F5M33 FWD transmissions. Pins must be pressed out in the same directions as explained above.

Also stumbled across the suggestion from @silentsnow31802 to use a chain break tool and bought this one from Harbor Freight.

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I have successfully (and quite easily) removed (4) selector arms and (1) counterweight using this tool, a 3/16” punch and ball peen hammer. One selector arm was done in the car, one was done out of the car but transmission still mounted to the engine, and the other two were transmissions by themselves. Do NOT USE air tools with this chain break! Most of the pins I removed were fairly saturated with oil. A little penetrating oil won’t hurt to help remove the pin and the arm. Also, safety glasses are highly recommended.

I removed the pin guide screwed into the tool opposite the press pin. Then, back the small hex off to the point where the press pin extends only a little from the face of the tool. Back the large hex out to give yourself space to fit the tool over and onto the shift arm.

Use the press pin to align the tool with the hole in the selector arm (or counterweight). Remember, only a little bit protrudes at this point for this purpose. You want the press pin to be guided and supported throughout the process. Once the press pin finds the hole, make sure the hole on the opposing side of the tool aligns with the pin hole in the arm so the taper lock pin has somewhere to go.

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Next, turn in the large hex to secure the tool against the selector arm. This should not require any tools. You simply want to snug up the large threaded body against the selector shaft.

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Then, use a wrench to turn the small hex in.
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As you turn, you’ll probably hear some cracks or pops - nothing to worry about. Continue in until you’ve sufficiently moved the tapered lock pin from the selector shaft. Here is where I stopped:
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You could probably use the tool to push the pin all the way out but I did not, to be safe. Back off the small hex most of the way. Then back the large hex out. As you do, you’ll be able to swivel the tool and you’ll see the tapered lock pin sticking out on the non-press pin side of the selector arm.

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You can see in the above two pictures the grooves in the pin are on the end last to be pressed in, first to be pressed out, just like stated in the original article above.

Remove the chain break tool and grab that 3/16” punch and ball peen hammer. Align the punch in the pin hole, hold the punch and strike with the hammer. Make sure you have something ready to catch the pin to keep it from flying away from you!

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A couple good strikes and the pin will come out - be ready to catch it!

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With the pin out, wiggle the arm back and forth while pulling up to free it from the selector shaft.

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And done! Even taking pictures in between, this took 8 minutes to do. Really appreciate the above how-to @Kryndon and the tip, again, from @silentsnow31802 !

If you do lose the lock pin, the part number is MD742030.
 

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Alrighty, I am at a complete loss and am starting to lose hope in getting this trans rebuilt completely. I do not have an air hammer. I purchased the chain breaker tool that was reference above and using the tool, PB Blaster and some heat attempted to extract the pins. I was able to get the weight pin out but the arm pin has claimed the life of 2 of the metal tips that came with the kit and my dignity. I have ensured that I am pressing the correct direction. My last thought is to attempt to melt a crayon into the hole (i have seen a lot of people say that this is the best lubricant to use). I have tightened the clamp and am leaving it over night to see if constant pressure loosens anything up.

Are there ANY other ideas to try to get this thing out? This is the last seal that needs replaced and then I get to put everything back together!

Second question...why in the world did they choose to use these dumb pins instead of a spring pin or something that doesn't need a 20-ton press to extract...?

Third question...Would it make sense to replace the tapered pin with a spring/roll pin for ease of future rebuilds or would that for some reason not work?
 
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The counterweight didn’t give you problems? There’s nothing different between them other than the shape of the arm.

I assume you’re applying PB Blaster in the pin holes (both sides of the arm) as well as the shaft itself? Perhaps let the PB Blaster marinate in there a bit longer, overnight, reapply in the morning, etc. Only other suggestion I have, if you’re sure you did this properly, is to try an air hammer.
 
The counterweight didn’t give you problems? There’s nothing different between them other than the shape of the arm.

I assume you’re applying PB Blaster in the pin holes (both sides of the arm) as well as the shaft itself? Perhaps let the PB Blaster marinate in there a bit longer, overnight, reapply in the morning, etc. Only other suggestion I have, if you’re sure you did this properly, is to try an air hammer.
Is it possible for someone to have put the pin in backwards or something and that it needs to be pressed out the opposite way?
 
Unlikely. If I recall correctly, the holes in the arm itself are different diameters. Not much, but enough to prevent that from happening.
 
Unlikely. If I recall correctly, the holes in the arm itself are different diameters. Not much, but enough to prevent that from happening.
Dang, I cannot believe how difficult it is to get this freaking things out. Would you suggest reusing the pins or replacing them with something else to make the next rebuild easier?
 
I wouldn’t, considering myself and others have not had that difficult of a time to remove them. Upon reassembly, make sure the holes are all clean, clear, edges smoothed, and greased. The next time around should not be as difficult.
 
I'm at a complete loss...I've tried everything above including having my neighbor who has one of the most powerful air hammers on the market try. I've soaked it in oil for like a week, I've heated it until blue, and now I'm trying to drill it out with a cobalt drill bit. None of it is working. I've been drilling for like 2 hours and barely have a divit in the pin...

Is there anything else I can do???
 
I'm at a complete loss...I've tried everything above including having my neighbor who has one of the most powerful air hammers on the market try. I've soaked it in oil for like a week, I've heated it until blue, and now I'm trying to drill it out with a cobalt drill bit. None of it is working. I've been drilling for like 2 hours and barely have a divit in the pin...

Is there anything else I can do???
Did you try with one of the motorcycle chain tools? I was able to get the top counter weight off using the tool below but ended up cutting it off the top portion anyway because the counter weight snapped in half trying to hammer it off after the pin was removed. Probably would have had to do so anyway because the tool below didn't fit onto that 2nd lower pin without trimming down that rod that everything is pressed into. If you use the harbor freight one you might not have the same issues or if yours doesn't have the counter weight.

 
Did you try with one of the motorcycle chain tools? I was able to get the top counter weight off using the tool below but ended up cutting it off the top portion anyway because the counter weight snapped in half trying to hammer it off after the pin was removed. Probably would have had to do so anyway because the tool below didn't fit onto that 2nd lower pin without trimming down that rod that everything is pressed into. If you use the harbor freight one you might not have the same issues or if yours doesn't have the counter weight.

I did try using the tool and found that it would only fit correctly if you grind part of it away too allow for clearance of the shaft. In order to remove the weight, I used a three arm puller.
That being said, I destroyed the threads on my tool trying to get the second pin out. I did finally succeed though! I ended up have to buy carbide bits which seemed to be the only but hard enough to make any progress.
After trying to drill the pin holding the shift linkage on the shaft to no avail, I ended up drilling the pin inside the case and pulling the whole shift arm out. I then went to ACE hardware and got a spring pin (3/16 I think) and am planning on using that as the replacement which seems to fit well.
 
Nice! Glad to hear you were able to get it. Spring pin sounds like a good idea. I ended up going with a M5x40mm 0.8 pitch bolt and lock nut with red thread locker.

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Notes on this job

The counterweight needs to be removed first, it’s really stuck on there. I had to use a tie rod puller and a ball joint separator to pull the weight off the shaft

Doing this job while the trans is in the car is not an easy job. You need to remove your intercooler piping, the shift cables, the shift cable brackets, and you still won’t have enough room to wack anything with a hammer. I have also broken 2 of the chain tools because the pin is bent and snaps. It’s also impossible to see if the pin is exactly lined up on the back of the hole. Use a hole punch on the back of the chain tool to line up the back of the pin to make sure the press is pushing it evenly to avoid breaking the chain press tool

Harbor freight no longer sells the chain break tool at any stores. You can buy the exact same ones but I highly suggest buying two of them if you need to complete this job in one day. Amazon sells them for $12 and usually next day delivery
 
Ok so the chain breaker tool would absolutely not work at all on the lower pin. I had to drill out the pin.

My advice is to plan this job is going to be a pain. Remove your intercooler piping, remove the lower radiator hose, remove your radiator, remove the shifter cables, remove the shifter cable brackets, Get all the space you can.

I broke 4 of the chain breaker tools from Amazon, again the tool only worked on my top pin. On the lower punch pin I had to drill it out, I went from the top drilling towards the bottom through the pin on the rod. The pin should drill out easy, you should notice lots of shrapnel quickly as you drill through it. Make sure you check progress as you drill through it, you don’t want to go through the rod
 
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