Hondata heatshield gaskets released for DSM's

[Spunkster]

The Hondata gasket for the 90-94 Eclipse Turbo, 95-99 Eclipse Turbo and Lancer EVO has been released.

Prices are $60 through any Hondata dealer.

http://www.hondata.com/heatshield.html

 

[90CherryTSI]

$60 mod tho? 3% power, every bit helps?

 

[REDBLUR]

I think its bull shit.

 

[dsmturboawd]

any magic beans to go with that gasket?

what a crock of shit.

 

[90CherryTSI]

for a 10% power increase? Will I find the huge turbo if I climb the stalk?

 

[98TsiAWD]

Isnt that just a phenolic spacer? If so yes it will drop your air intake temps. Helps keep heat out of the intake manifold.

 

[Spunkster]

This is not BS and has been dyno proven and tested in real world conditions. Next time you've been driving really hard, go and hold you hand on the intake manifold for about 1 minute...I'll bet you can't. Put one of these gaskets on and you can hold it there forever even after climing a hill or mountain.

These gaskets are also reusable, which will save you money in replacement gaskets everytime you remove our manifold.

 

[eclpsegsx12]

Yep...It is worth it..It disipates the heat to keep the maniold cool...they say its actually cool to the touch

 

[jra4e]

i seen it personally on a honda, it def works that intake mani was nice and cool

 

[NDgsx]

How high of pressure have you guys tested using only this as a gasket?

Phenolic spacers are a great idea, in adition to keeping the air cool the manifold will now function better as a heat sink for the coil.

 

[dsmracer69]

I would get a phenolic spacer its alot thicker and the temp drop is greater then that hondata crap I woukdn't put anything on my car that came close 2 saying honda on it anyways. But it does work.

 

[nx2kta]

i don't think its going to work on turbo cars since the air is pressureise
already its moveing too fast for the intake to heat up any

 

[MNGSX]

It works.

I'm waiting for a dsm shop to do it with thicker phenolic for cheaper.

 

[Kingdom]

doesnt the forrester intake come with a spacer like this one?

I have seen the forrester spacer and its pretty thick.

 

[greyforestgst]

Originally posted by MNGSX
It works.

I'm waiting for a dsm shop to do it with thicker phenolic for cheaper.

 

[98TsiAWD]

http://www.outlawengineering.com/

I am waiting for the 1g kit, they are making it now. I am only gonna get the intake manifold spacer from them tho, not the whole kit.

 

[Defiant]

I think this was from someone on here, but a one-off:

 

[crankbender]

Originally posted by Defiant
I think this was from someone on here, but a one-off:

Holy shite that thing is thick.

Generally speaking you do not want a really thick gasket. What you want to do is layer it some way and seal it against the pressure. This will give you not only the resistance of the insulating material but also the contact resistance of the layers. This will be hard to seal tho....how hard are you willing to work?

The head heats the intake charge through the inake the most when the engine is not under load. This is because the energy transfer to the intake mani is based only on head temps which are fairly constant. At the lower flow levels the intake is allowed to heat the air more because it is moving slower. make sense? basically this proves that these are independent of the car being turboed or not.

 

[Spunkster]

The Hondata gasket has been tested at up to 30psi of boost and should handle up to 40psi without any problems.

Additional thickness will not make a difference in temperatures. We have done a lot of testing to find that this thickness works the best and also does not cause as many fitment issues as a really thick spacer.

 

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[crankbender]

Whats the k (conduction constant) value and thickness please.

 

[Spunkster]

The gaksets are about 3.25mm thick. I cannot give out the exact material or it's properties as those are our proprietary information.

If there is someone willing to quit bad mouthing our products just because our primary market is Hondas and actually put one of these on and post the before and after intake temps, I will send you a gasket at no charge.

Our company has built a reputation for selling dyno proven products that deliver what we promise.

 

[crankbender]

Not badmouthing you. I know it will work I was going to do teh proofs for everybody. I was also just for myself going to do the calculations for 2 stacked.

I would love to help you out but the currently running dsm is not set up for tuning and has no intake temp sensor.

I do suggest to anybody who has plumbed their intake mani for temperature to take him up on this offer......

 

[Spunkster]

That was not necessarliy aimed at you.

Really you can do the test with a simple laser/IR thermometer, although using the inteke temp sensor is the best bet. If there is a temp sensor that sends signals to the ECU, then you should be able to use an OBD2 scan tool (provided the car is OBD2) and read what the intake temps actually are.

 

[crankbender]

on our cars the intake temps are measured at the MAF which is before the turbo so the stock sensors can not be used. My car being a 90 does not have obd2 but all turbo dsms (or any car with a maf/mas) should have a temp sensor and pressure sensor in the maf.


Pm me if you would like me to review this product for the community. I can do all the explanations and tests on a bench as it is only heat transfer that we are speaking of. I can easily set up a system at the heat transfer labratory here at texas ATM university.