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Hondata heatshield gaskets released for DSM's

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GSX_RCR said:
It's funny how a few of the guys calling BS on this product has either 1) never used this type of product before, or 2) don't know the basic laws of thermal dynamics.

The purpose of the spacer is to prevent heat transfer from the head to the IM. :shhh:

You must either: 1) Be really stupid, or 2) Not even read what I said.

To prove to me that your not stupid, why dont you read everything I have said here and then say something intelligent. :thumb:
 
jim97gst said:
What is thermal dynamics? There's thermodynamics, the study of energy transfer. This product/post is more of a matter of heat transfer/materials science engineering.

Thermodynamics and molecular/heat transport are very closely related subjects. Ask any chemical/material/mechanical engineer. Both thermodynamics and transport rely on the fundemental principles of conservation of mass/energy. Heat flows from the head to the intake manifold and the surroundings... energy is conserved... no net loss or gain.

Lets stop arguing about who is/was a better thermo/transport student and start discussing this spacer. Im very interested in whether it makes a good seal or not. Right now I have a big intake leak where the IM meets the head. If this thing makes a good seal, I will definately consider buying it instead of another manifold gasket.

Does the 122performance phenolic spacer provide 2 gaskets? Does anyone make spacers that come with gaskets?
 
Can you run 2 factory gaskets with the hondata spacer, yes? but it seems like the few who have responded say that it doesnt require gaskets at all. /shrug

im about to purchase a sheet metal intake manifold, and i think i may go ahead and buy the hondata spacer also. when i get it, i'll decide on the gasket thing i guess. i've got a new stock gasket laying around so maybe i'll atleast use one in combination hehe..
 
Spunkster said:
This is not BS and has been dyno proven and tested in real world conditions. Next time you've been driving really hard, go and hold you hand on the intake manifold for about 1 minute...I'll bet you can't. Put one of these gaskets on and you can hold it there forever even after climing a hill or mountain.

These gaskets are also reusable, which will save you money in replacement gaskets everytime you remove our manifold.

I'm glad I will be able to touch the manifold after the car is running hard. I am also glad I can reuse it for every time I take of my intake manifold. That is a daily chore........

/sarcasm

I wonder how long air stays in the manifold in a forced induction application and I wonder if, even when the manifodl is hot, if the charge air isn't hotter already.

/more sarcasm
 
98TsiAWD said:
Isnt that just a phenolic spacer? If so yes it will drop your air intake temps. Helps keep heat out of the intake manifold.


Horseshit. Underhood temps will heat up the intake manifold no matter what. Drive around for 20 minutes pop your hood and lay your hand anywhere on the intake manifold. I bet you anything its hot, even with that damn repackaged "felpro" gasket.
 
2.4 turbo Hyped said:
Horseshit. Underhood temps will heat up the intake manifold no matter what. Drive around for 20 minutes pop your hood and lay your hand anywhere on the intake manifold. I bet you anything its hot, even with that damn repackaged "felpro" gasket.
Bullsh1t, Iv'e driven my car hard as hell up in the mountains of Colorado and even after the drive my manifold is not hot, warm to the touch but not as hot as before.
 
2.4 turbo Hyped said:
Horseshit. Underhood temps will heat up the intake manifold no matter what. Drive around for 20 minutes pop your hood and lay your hand anywhere on the intake manifold. I bet you anything its hot, even with that damn repackaged "felpro" gasket.

Uhm :confused: I don't think the argument is whether the manifold will heat up or not, it is proven that the spacer will keep the manifold itself cooler the argument is whether the air will stay in the IM long enough for the manifold to transfer heat to the intake air, which I don't think it will make a significant difference. You are wrong if you are saying that the spacer will not keep the manifold itself cooler.

I'm sorry but I guess I also don't realize what you are calling a repackaged "felpro"?
 
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