holy crap never replace your oil pan

[kenjiw]

So this morning i replaced my leaking oil pan and return line, and let me tell you this thing was a bi*** to do on your own. took about 3 hours and a bunch of sweat and dirt. never do it on your own things a bi*** rather woulda paid $100 for labour to get it done at a shop.

 

[4gfun]

I can't stand when people insult others for having a hard time with something. With that said, I found it easy and relaxing on my GVR4. Like anything else, not stressing things goes a long way sometimes.

As a matter of fact, I have got to do it on my DSM soon and will be sure to enjoy it.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Post a writeup for OP

 

[4gfun]

Post a writeup for OP

Who me? There might be one around here or at least bits and pieces. I don't do JACK without a writeup or extensive searching. This is pretty much why I own these vehicles. I'd rather be clean at my pc for the longest time possible before getting dirty.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

Lol yes you, maybe you can be the furst to do a good with pix write up that thousands will see. Help the op out. I would do it but I'm not popping the pan anytime soon *knock on wood*

 

[bOOstIsbeTTer]

ya if you can't do it your self don't buy a dsm that ### I done it and im not complaining !!!!!! (dsmforlife)

 

[Batman272]

and this is why i always keep beer in the garage. say "hey friend want to come over and grab a beer?" when they walk out there you trap them and make them work for the beer they take!

 

[4gfun]

Lol yes you, maybe you can be the furst to do a good with pix write up that thousands will see. Help the op out. I would do it but I'm not popping the pan anytime soon *knock on wood*

Lol, sure why not. There is no proper writeup on changing a cylinder head and I am working on that so why not.

You all could let me know where I am wrong so I can grow.

 

[4gfun]

and this is why i always keep beer in the garage. say "hey friend want to come over and grab a beer?" when they walk out there you trap them and make them work for the beer they take!

Bwahahahahahahah! Must be nice to have friends!

There again, I know a few people who I don't want to befriend but will do stuff for beer! Guess it works out.

 

[Archer Fabrications]

and this is why i always keep beer in the garage. say "hey friend want to come over and grab a beer?" when they walk out there you trap them and make them work for the beer they take!

Hahaha this is a great idea. Noted

 

[4gfun]

So this morning i replaced my leaking oil pan and return line, and let me tell you this thing was a bi*** to do on your own. took about 3 hours and a bunch of sweat and dirt. never do it on your own things a bi*** rather woulda paid $100 for labour to get it done at a shop.

OP, If it gave you a hard time, it gave you a hard time. I can't argue with that. Looks like you are done with it now and were able to put it behind you. Isn't that the goal? Not everything has to be a speed contest.

 

[T is for TURBO]

Christ, when did you all become a bunch of elitists that were born with the knowledge of all things mechanical embedded in your brain.

Give me a break.

I see no elitists here. Most of us picked up a wrench and figured shit out. And we managed to do it with out needing to post a thread bitching about how difficult it was.

It seriously is nothing more than removing a few bolts. If someone finds that difficult, well, then they probably should pick up a different hobby

 

[2gSpyder4g64]

Cut the O.P. some slack.

It could have been his first time wrenching on a car there for it seemed like a pain in the ass.

Im sure we've all had something on the "to do list" for the dsm that was a pain in the ass. From a exhaust gasket that gets turned into a evening job extracting broken studs to taking off the oil pan.

Ahh tell me about it, today i decided to change the oil , i tought it would be a 5 mintues job ( 10 max), taking out 1 bolt and changing the filter right?.
Long story short my Drain plug got rounded and it was over tightned, worst part i paid some guy to do it "because i had other things to do" i had to put the car on stands, take out the left tire, remove the plastic covers, vice grips.... ( you know the rest ).

In the end, i'd rather have a rounded bolt because i messed it up, but learned how to do it, than having a bad bolt because i paid some dumb ass to do it for me.

and this is why i always keep beer in the garage. say "hey friend want to come over and grab a beer?" when they walk out there you trap them and make them work for the beer they take!

Gonna try that one soon

 

[spyderdrifter]

All I can say, is WOW!!!! How the hell is an oil pan hard to remove. It's pretty straight forward. I love working on my own car and enjoy the results and money that I save doing it all myself.

 

[Sebba]

I am 100% for discouraging seemingly retarded individuals that ask basic questions that google has the answer to. Generally, if you're asking how to change your brakes or spark plugs, I sure as shit wouldn't just give you instructions on how to do a head gasket and let you sink or swim. That's how DSM's get ####ed up, sold, or scrapped.

If you don't have the common sense to either google your question before asking it, or buy a service manual, you have a ways to go before you pick up the wrenches and do shit that requires ZERO mistakes.

 

[ed1380]

Yea not to mention trying to hold the transfer case up there and put the bolts back in it by your self. Darn transfer cases weigh a ton. i also dropped the support down there just to make it extra easy to take out.

There's dowel pins that hold the transfer case until you get the bolts in



If OP wants something hard to work on, I have an audi in the garage that's a bi*** and a half to work on. This is how much of a pita the turbo bolts are

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They're right next to the bellhousing

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[Ghost_92TSi]

I can't stand when people insult others for having a hard time with something. With that said, I found it easy and relaxing on my GVR4. Like anything else, not stressing things goes a long way sometimes.

As a matter of fact, I have got to do it on my DSM soon and will be sure to enjoy it.

It is the attitude he came in with.

This guy had issues with a cv shaft, job is pretty simple. But he got help. And yes, he vented about all the issues he ran into, but he learned for the next time.

Most importantly, He didn't get a single reply that gave him crap for having trouble.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/maintenance-repairs/468569-cv-shaft-nightmare-help.html

 

[BogusSVO]

Christ, when did you all become a bunch of elitists that were born with the knowledge of all things mechanical embedded in your brain.

Humm.. I think that statement fits me.

I grew up with building blocks, legos and erector sets. My brothers were draging up clunker Fords before I can remember. My mom owned a VW repair shop for a few years.

So yes, some people are born with the ability to look at something and see the exploded view schematic in there brains.

Now on the other hand, the Fine arts are lost to me, I can not sing or play a musical instrument, and I need help drawing a sick figure.

Seems the OP struggled with getting an oil pan sealed, but he fought on and got it done. His talent may not be with spinning wrenches.

If some of you saw the junk I get handed to fix, you would agree that some people should not own tools and just drag it to one of the collage drop outs.

 

[Boostdriven]

Holly crap, that's what I want to say but not to the OP's post but to some of your guys's comments. Don't act like you never bitched about something, whether it was car related or how you realized there was no toilet paper after you finished your business, nevertheless we all bitched about something at one point it another.

I give props to the OP for starting something and finishing it. Maybe it was his first time ever working on his own car and he struggled a little bit but nevertheless he got it done. I've done few oil pans in my life and some of them were a bi***. Whoever put it on before me used so much silicon that you could seal an engine pan on a train let alone a DSM. So let's not be so hasty to make insulting comments about someone's mistake of posting a bitching thread. This whole thread reminds me of Honda forums and completely misrepresents what this side is all about.

 

[Ghost_92TSi]

^Attitude is everything. Don't tell people to "never do it yourself". Supposed to be a forum that encourages each other, not the opposite. No indication on why he had trouble so we can learn/advise better ways. Doesn't help that his post is a big run-on sentence or that he never came back to reply. I don't think it is like a Honda forum at all. Ask for help you get it. Be positive or be quiet. Hopefully he learns something and moves on. Clearly he isn't going to ever do it again and that is fine with us.

 

[4gfun]

It is the attitude he came in with.

This guy had issues with a cv shaft, job is pretty simple. But he got help. And yes, he vented about all the issues he ran into, but he learned for the next time.

Most importantly, He didn't get a single reply that gave him crap for having trouble.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/maintenance-repairs/468569-cv-shaft-nightmare-help.html

Did you mean to link to another thread? I could be wrong, but that looks like a link to another user.

Anyways, it is just a pet peeve of mine. I personally don't see anything wrong with his complaining. I want to kick my cars lots of days as well. I think that there is always something to be desired when it comes to these cars and I am not slow in insulting them. I didn't like it when my GVR4 broke down in the middle of the night (more than once) when I did nothing but take care of it and babied it.

The thing that I don't like is when I see someone become a target in the DSM community for whatever reason. I am not saying that happened here, but it hits close to home because it happened to me in the past and it is difficult to get anything done when that happens to you.

I took it to heart when I was younger when people would say that I shouldn't own a DSM because I couldn't do "x". At some point, I stopped listening and just did my own thing.

10 years ago, people would troll just because I would try to get better gas mileage out of an enthusiast automobile. Now we can't get enough information on lean burn etc.

What I really don't get is why the OP hasn't returned to this thread? Too busy?

The popular viewpoint seems to be against the OP, but some of us are with the OP. If I were the OP I'd at least come back for some intelligent discussion.

 

[IrishBeatdown]

What's with dogging the guy that wants to pay $$$ to get work done on his car for him? Not all people that turn wrenches for a living are hacks, and if he doesn't have the time, he doesn't have the time. To tell him that he will never appreciate it because he isn't doing the work himself is ludicrous.

Back on topic, after reading the first paragraph from the OP my face looked like

 

[Boostdriven]

I think that numerous insults in his direction have scared him off, the guy is still a probationary member so cut him some slack. I'm just amazed at how many people have jumped on a wagon of talking shit in one day, none of those comments were necessary. I'm not pointing fingers because I've done my share of shit talking on here but I've learned that its pointless and don't get anyone anywhere except a temporary suspension

OP, if you have been reading through this whole chaos let it be a little lesson to you not to start threats with negative attitude. If you need help or advice with something, there are allot of us here that will be more then willing to help you out. I hope you are not to discouraged with all this and don't give up working on your car, that's how you learn, we all had to start somewhere

 

[Spanky_DSM]

and this is why i always keep beer in the garage. say "hey friend want to come over and grab a beer?" when they walk out there you trap them and make them work for the beer they take!

Will Work For Beer

 

[Ghost_92TSi]

Did you mean to link to another thread? I could be wrong, but that looks like a link to another user.

Anyways, it is just a pet peeve of mine. I personally don't see anything wrong with his complaining. I want to kick my cars lots of days as well. I think that there is always something to be desired when it comes to these cars and I am not slow in insulting them. I didn't like it when my GVR4 broke down in the middle of the night (more than once) when I did nothing but take care of it and babied it.

The thing that I don't like is when I see someone become a target in the DSM community for whatever reason. I am not saying that happened here, but it hits close to home because it happened to me in the past and it is difficult to get anything done when that happens to you.

I took it to heart when I was younger when people would say that I shouldn't own a DSM because I couldn't do "x". At some point, I stopped listening and just did my own thing.

10 years ago, people would troll just because I would try to get better gas mileage out of an enthusiast automobile. Now we can't get enough information on lean burn etc.

What I really don't get is why the OP hasn't returned to this thread? Too busy?

The popular viewpoint seems to be against the OP, but some of us are with the OP. If I were the OP I'd at least come back for some intelligent discussion.

The one I posted was the one I meant. When I said "this guy" I meant it as referring to another member. I was defending the forums because even if its something that isn't too difficult, Oil pan or cv shaft, the members here will help you. Just ask.
If you see the other post, that member says what he had problems with and what he did. The members then could chime in with help and tricks or things to change about the job. (ie. taking off the caliper and stuff was unnecessary). Since it is unknown the steps he took, I can understand why this thread when the way it did. Who knows maybe he dropped the whole subframe to get to the oil pan. I've personally gone to a u-pull-it place to get a crank for my car. Moved the tranny out of the way to get the rear main seal off. Then, I pulled the pan and oil pump to get to it and get it out. I did this all while laying on hot sand and having fire ants running around using only my basic 3/8 socket set with a few open ended wrenches, a breaker bar w/ a socket adapter, and 1 pry bar. Did it suck? Hell yea. Would I do it again? Yes, because a 35 dollar crank was a better option for me then buy one for 150 from Miller or any other salvage yard. I took tons of pictures while I was there to share with my girlfriend so I wouldn't suffer alone, but that's what girlfriends are there for.

 

[4gfun]

The one I posted was the one I meant. When I said "this guy" I meant it as referring to another member. I was defending the forums because even if its something that isn't too difficult, Oil pan or cv shaft, the members here will help you. Just ask. If you see the other post that member says what he had problems with and what he did. The members then could chime in with help and tricks or things to change about the job. (ie. taking off the caliper and stuff was unnecessary). Since it is unknown the steps he took, I can understand why this thread when the way it did. Who knows maybe he dropped the whole subframe to get to the oil pan. I've personally gone to a u-pull-it place to get a crank for my car. Moved the tranny out of the way to get the rear main seal off. Then, I pulled the pan and oil pump to get to it and get it out. I did this all while laying on hot sand and having fire ants running around using only my basic 3/8 socket set with a few open ended wrenches, a breaker bar w/ a socket adapter, and 1 pry bar. Did it suck? Hell yea. Would I do it again? Yes, because a 35 dollar crank was a better option for me then buy one for 150 from Miller or any other salvage yard. I took tons of pictures while I was there to share with my girlfriend so I wouldn't suffer alone, but that's what girlfriends are there for.

Oh ok I gotcha. I think that some folks in the thread were trolling and/or let their emotions about DSMs get in the way. Kinda feels like the timeless debate about whether or not a DSM is reliable or not and the answer always comes down to whether or not you maintain the vehicle. I disagree. I bought my 1g to keep stock and commute with. Why am I so terrified even though I know that I will do everything right? Too many bad experiences. I don't care what anyone says, I don't forget my experiences. I am glad that you take pride in what you do and I am generally the same. I have just been jerking around with cars so long that sometimes (very rare) I have a hard time or wuss out.

On a side note, I have trained the wife to be my puppy dog and help me out.

It gets harder with kids though. Gotta wonder why I am still in this game and nearing 40 years of age. I can't drive fast in this State with it's archaic laws or risk going to jail for one day starting at 1 day for every mph over 80.

I think the 4g63 is just a habit for me. I just need that distraction sometimes.