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danieltovar

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Apr 3, 2011
palo akto, California
My firts build was i bad dissaster for that i have my block and head at the shop
The block will have
6 bolt Wiseco pistons 9:1 (20 over)/ eagle H rods/ stock crankshaft

The turbo is an turbo lab of america from austin an dsmer
Its has an 16g machine intake housing/ also have an 20g mith housing
compressor wheel 53 x 71mm 11 blade gt3071r
turbine wheel 54 x 61mm 11 blade tdo6sl2
8cm turbine housing fully ported and polished, 37mm internal flapper
15 psi internal wg

Know the head is an 2g stage 3 port polish with ferrea 1mm over size valves.
Know the machine shop told me they have supertech dual springs ready to drop in, but i hear that causes more strees on the cams, also that they are old tech.

Heres the help what route will be the best for the money cause i an low on money, but also i dont want to doit again wasted money and time the firts time what cams and spring here is what i was going for the dual supertech they have and these cams
Kelford RaceCams - Performance Parts Catalog - Bonehead Performance Inc - How Fast Should Look!
But its alot of cash. The ones i think is rigth for me is the 264 270.
What brand? What size? What spring? Still new at dsm and evryone is welcome to help, sorry for the long post, but i tried to put the most info for dsmer to help:hmm:
 
firstly whats the car going to be built for?

dual springs are great for a race or drag car! daily driven you can use single beehive kiggly springs, CAMS I would go with kelford as there the most true 272 you will get and there quality is the best so ive read on so many threads and its the same across there range! money and personal preference is always the factor though as if you want a great build then spend the good money and do it right the first time!

also don't take this the wrong way but the way you wrote some of your thread did not make sense as its not put together very well and im hoping I read it correctly and understood who had and said what! no disrespect though
 
For cam shafts i agree that a 272/272 would also be a good choice and if you are low on cash delta cams in Washington does a 272 regrind with our camshafts for $250 not sure on the exact specs as i have lost the cam card. but the craftsmanship looks great. I have just received a set my self along with a turbo from turbo lab of America but have not finished my build so I can't give any input on how they perform. Also not to get off topic but I looked through your profile and you don't have any drive train mods listed you may want to start looking in that direction as you will probably start finding week points there depending on your driving habits.
 
Yes low in money is tru, but i want to do these the firts time, regrinds are an option, but there is an local guy that has some hks for 400 so if i do that i thinks its better to buy then.
My goal is an street dd and also to have an solid built, and something to grown on future if a dicided.
The shop told me that they recomend supertech dual cause he can gets those. So i search and found out that beehive are the new tech and streetable.
Also my goal is to put these turbo to the test.
Well my drivetrain is getting for know cluch and redline fluids, but i will save for better, thats why i don't want to make an mistake and buy again on the motor build.

So what set up for my new t.
 
Sounds like you have a solid engine being built.

I looked at your profile, for Tuning you have Greddy e-manage and no cable listed.

So you have no way to tune the engine.

Honestly, get the basics covered first, such as a decent way to tune and a wide band O2.

You say the head is a 2g with a stage 3 port and polish with ferrea +1mm valves..... Who did the head? SIM? JAM? Force Eng?

What springs were on the head before?
 
Sounds like you have a solid engine being built.

I looked at your profile, for Tuning you have Greddy e-manage and no cable listed.

So you have no way to tune the engine.

Honestly, get the basics covered first, such as a decent way to tune and a wide band O2.

You say the head is a 2g with a stage 3 port and polish with ferrea +1mm valves..... Who did the head? SIM? JAM? Force Eng?

What springs were on the head before?

Its from local machine shop that works on dsm and they built an evo that has few records.
the greddy is still on the car and i buy the cable and cd from then for know to see how its running, and have the aem ecu to tune the car when i get new injectors like 1000cc, but for know i have the motor again off the car so want to do a solid motor, and not to doit again. O and i have a aem o2 also, but is just that i need i good motor to work with. The springs were bc with the k cams that are stock

What you guys think on supertecht single beehives springs with kelford 264 intake and 270 exhaust, or 272s
Or gsc 1 or gsc 2.
 
If you go to the kelford 272, you will need a good beehive spring for them, such as the Kiggley or GSC 5041 kit

The BC springs you have now should be just fine for the smaller cams.
 
The greddy came with the car and the 650 injectors, but i have the aem management with aem map, eam inlet temp sensor,

The crower are use and want to build the head so i wont have to open the motor again i have it at the machine shop so i need springs and cams

O thanks for the reply's guys, so what do you guys thinks of the set up kelford cam 264 and 270 with beehives supertech or gsc 1 or 2 with same springs also considering beehives gsc springs, but a little more money.
 
ST does not offer a beehive for the 4g as far as I am aware.

If the springs test fine, then why not use them?
 
ST does not offer a beehive for the 4g as far as I am aware.

If the springs test fine, then why not use them?

I got them from map check them out map performance supertech beehives single

Well guys i just bought everything today kelford 272's, and supertech single beehives sprins

Thanks for the replys, well hope it works good with my set up any comments are welcome.
 
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