godspeed 20g

[munk]

any of you guys seen this turbo from godspeed it looks like a good upgrade and not that Chinese crap and if its Chinese it looks to be well built
eBay Motors: super td06h 20g turbo charger dsm eclipse talon 4g63 (item 300290424245 end time Feb-04-09 11:22:40 PST)

 

[dsm-onster]

Why would any one make such a bold claim and not point to one web news article or produce one bit of evidence to back it up?

 

[LandoAWD]

Seeing as there are no dyno #s, track times, etc, is this "good luck" you have the fact that the glued on compressor housing hasn't separated yet, or...?

I'd like proof to the statements made as well. You can dig it up when you're fixing your location in your profile.

Thanks.

 

[dsm-onster]

. Well, 'I heard from a friend of a friend that a chinese turbo doesn't work'.

I'm the friend of my friend that told me it wouldn't work. . . I put it on and it blew up in 1800miles I've never seen anyone push chinese turbos over 300whp or push as much flow as a stock 14b can yield without them coming apart at the seams.

My turbo with not enough miles to discolor the bearing section:

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If these companies have to label "TURBOCHARGER" on the compressor for plant workers to know what it is, then you can't expect it to last.

 

[TSi999]

:facepalm: My ghetto oil return line had pinched itself shut. While I had the pushlock Slowboy line I bought on the shelf. My apologies to Precison. My girlfriend replaced the oil line and no more smoke.

 

[lucuc0212]

Hello, first time replying to a thread, but I also have bought one of these godspeed super 20g TD06 turbos. Before this turbo I had order another super 20g TD06 from anouther company off ebay (speedyautoracer) put it in ran it fine for 3 days at 10psi than turned the boost to 20psi (yes have supporting parts inc. fuel) and in an instant blew the turbo. The turbo wasn't balanced and bent the spindle right away and would barely spin. So I order another turbo paying $250 more from godspeed and they sent me the exact turbo as I blew. So far so good at 7psi, but we'll see I'll keep you all informed and those who also have one let me know.

 

[frankenstein406]

i found a 20g twinscoll with 20000 miles 300 and a guys giving me a 16g with a wrong hotside for free so you should be able to find deals to just look. theres no shame in buying used, chinese knock offs dont get me started.

 

[manny correa]

Hello, first time replying to a thread, but I also have bought one of these godspeed super 20g TD06 turbos. Before this turbo I had order another super 20g TD06 from anouther company off ebay (speedyautoracer) put it in ran it fine for 3 days at 10psi than turned the boost to 20psi (yes have supporting parts inc. fuel) and in an instant blew the turbo. The turbo wasn't balanced and bent the spindle right away and would barely spin. So I order another turbo paying $250 more from godspeed and they sent me the exact turbo as I blew. So far so good at 7psi, but we'll see I'll keep you all informed and those who also have one let me know.

if you blew it, then why did you go back to it? shouldnt that have been a lesson learned... and who runs 7psi on a dsm, thats stock boost cut in half! to each there own.

 

[dsmtun3r98gst]

I'm sure it's great right now, but why don't you report back in 20,000 miles

Well i guess im one of the very few that can say that their knockoff turbo has been worth it . I replaced my T25 for godspeed Ported EVO III turbo about 129,000 miles ago, now 175,000 and still running strong no shaft play at all . I think godspeed is alright no complaints on my part. and plus their shop is 25 mins away from me so if my turbo would have gone bad really fast I would have returned their crap back .

 

[lucuc0212]

First of all the way they discribed it to me I had thought it was a totally different turbo and once I recieved it and noticed they wouldn`t do nothing for me unless it blew. Also when I told them what had happened they told me that they highly recomend for me to get it re balanced. I don`t know why it wouldn`t be done before, but I did have it rebalanced and inspected by a respectable turbo company here in B.C. and they had said it look fine to them and that some China turbos are made quite well if they copy exact piece for piece with good quality material. Don`t get me wrong if I had know I was buying the same turbo I wouldn`t have and was very dissapointed, but decided to try it anyway since it comes with a 6 month warrenty.

Second of all as to running 7psi I know it`s nothing, but the tial ewg I bought it had been sold to me saying it came with a large red spring (almost 13psi), but only has a small red (7psi). I have a avrc ebc that I`m putting in to up the boost and am going with large blue and small blue asap. I only put this turbo and ewg this weekend and I`ll tell you I was the most disapointed with 7psi. Like I said earlier once I boost it up and install a few other of my part I`ll let you know how this turbo runs.

P.S. next turbo will be a name turbo (garrett, HKS, Turbonetics, ect.)

 

[lucuc0212]

I also have been looking for a good used turbo incase this goes bad quick and don`t have the funds to buy the new proven turbo.

 

[ONE_FAST_GSX]

It is not spam just the truth I have a fp 20g turbo and it has out lasted all the e-bay 20g turbo's the local DSMers get... I beat the hell out of this turbo boosten 28psi everyday and when I check the wheel it is as tight as the day I got it, 2 years ago....

Oh that's nice SPAM right there. Uh their 20g is $999.00 with no install kit. I just had an $1100 turbo go out with less than a thousand miles. I never want to spend that much money on a turbo again!

 

[IgotBoost91]

the ebay 16g seems to last long if ran with an oil restricter.

 

[KazooGS-T]

I have a friend who installed an ebay turbo kit on his car, turbo ran great never had any issues except he was getting improper oil pressures in the turbo causing oil to push through.

Put a restrictor on the feed line, and no more burning oil. On the same hand, I had another friend install one on his car and it went out within 2,000 miles. (Although he probably was a contributing factor).

The first person stated sold their turbo setup to another person who put it on their car and still runs without a single problem, two years and 15,000 miles later.

It's really a toss-up on if the turbo will die or if it will not, some vendors actually make good products and others glue their turbochargers together. If you do decide to buy an ebay turbo, research on which vendors are selling the parts that are NOT falling apart.

 

[chanley talon]

My ebay turbo 16g is still running good. I make huge power on it. Maybe i am lucky. It has held up to 30 psi moments. If it goes and is salvageable i will have it rebuilt with better internals. I will be going to the 8th mile track soon i already ran a 7.90 on 19psi. Now i have eprom with fuel cut removed and Methanol injection the car is very fast. I expect 7.30s-7.10s in the 8th mile at or above 100mph. We will see.

 

[97dsmtsi]

Hello, first time replying to a thread, but I also have bought one of these godspeed super 20g TD06 turbos. Before this turbo I had order another super 20g TD06 from anouther company off ebay (speedyautoracer) put it in ran it fine for 3 days at 10psi than turned the boost to 20psi (yes have supporting parts inc. fuel) and in an instant blew the turbo. The turbo wasn't balanced and bent the spindle right away and would barely spin. So I order another turbo paying $250 more from godspeed and they sent me the exact turbo as I blew. So far so good at 7psi, but we'll see I'll keep you all informed and those who also have one let me know.

WTF i just got a 20g from ebay and im piss at the ppl that talk shit i call u mamas boy that gets everything from mamy most of us have rent and what not to pay . i my self have 5 kids and a house and 2 car to keep up with i NEVER put anyone down . and all i care about is that we all have the same thing in mind cars turbos and speed so #### all u ppl shiten on the little guys get ## head out ## ass and do some work then ull see how hard it is for some ppl to get good stuff u ####ing ass holes........sorry every one i just had to say that

 

[LandoAWD]

It's a shame I can only warn once per post...

Things to consider:

1. Grammar rule
2. Flaming rule
3. Maybe we "be talkin shizzle y0" because we're attempting to make modding a car less like a lottery and more like a paycheck. Once is a chance, one is guaranteed if you work.

Follow?

 

[Colt4G63 also]

Stay in school kids! Education is important.

But to stay on topic, I just replaced an engine in a 98 Spyder that had the ebay turbo pictured on the first page. The intercooler was filled with oil, but the crankcase was dry. They said the turbo didn't make boost until 4000rpm, but then they eventually ran out of oil and spun all the rod bearings.

When it got to my shop the car was in several boxes. They bought some POS JDM motor with .012" crankwalk for $1300, and paid me $1695 to put new rod and main bearings in it, and install it.

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I paid $800 shipped for a brand new, ported, genuine Evo III, with a SS oil feed, a hallman MBC, and gaskets from Forced Performance. It works as well as the day I installed it, and all my pipes are bone dry.

Who paid more?

 

[ziggo0]

WTF i just got a 20g from ebay and im piss at the ppl that talk shit i call u mamas boy that gets everything from mamy most of us have rent and what not to pay . i my self have 5 kids and a house and 2 car to keep up with i NEVER put anyone down . and all i care about is that we all have the same thing in mind cars turbos and speed so #### all u ppl shiten on the little guys get ## head out ## ass and do some work then ull see how hard it is for some ppl to get good stuff u ####ing ass holes........sorry every one i just had to say that

It will blow up in due time, let's hope it doesn't take anything important with it. It was less logical for you to buy an ebay piece of crap that could potentially cause a lot more damage than it would help instead of sticking with what you have.

 

[dsm-onster]

Chanley Talon, what o you consider "huge power"?

WTF i just got a 20g from ebay and im piss at the ppl that talk shit i call u mamas boy that gets everything from mamy most of us have rent and what not to pay . i my self have 5 kids and a house and 2 car to keep up with i NEVER put anyone down . and all i care about is that we all have the same thing in mind cars turbos and speed so #### all u ppl shiten on the little guys get ## head out ## ass and do some work then ull see how hard it is for some ppl to get good stuff u ####ing ass holes........sorry every one i just had to say that

This has to be a joke right?

 

[JusMX141]

Chanley Talon, what o you consider "huge power"?

A 7.90 in the 1/8th translates to about a 12.30-12.40; in a full-weight 1G that translates to around 320 at the flywheel.

Sick.

I expect 7.30s-7.10s in the 8th mile at or above 100mph. We will see.

Why stop there? English Racing has gone 10.6 with a MHI Evo III on their auto 1G; show us what the Chinese turbos are all about!

 

[97dsmtsi]

It's a shame I can only warn once per post...

Things to consider:

1. Grammar rule
2. Flaming rule
3. Maybe we "be talkin shizzle y0" because we're attempting to make modding a car less like a lottery and more like a paycheck. Once is a chance, one is guaranteed if you work.

Follow?

my bad.......i just hate people got like this to others didnt mean to ofende ## site BOSS MAN

my bad.......i just hate people got like this to others didnt mean to ofende ## site BOSS MAN

back to subject i dont see the point of spending x amount of money on a car that ## trying to blow up i mean every time i go to race i go all out or go home

 

[Chaosweaver]

I got through maybe the first line or 2 (if you can call them that?) before I had to stop. So... You think everyone who whines is a mamas boy... . Alright dude, if you say so...

I believe if there is a good enough reason you are allowed to bi***, like the doctor's misplacing my daughter's results today, I'm in my right to bi*** at them over that.





Now back on topic, Ebay turbos are a gamble, sometimes you hit it huge and sometimes you get taken by the company. Remember, when the part is cheap, it will almost always be of bad quality.

 

[97dsmtsi]

I got through maybe the first line or 2 (if you can call them that?) before I had to stop. So... You think everyone who whines is a mamas boy... . Alright dude, if you say so...

I believe if there is a good enough reason you are allowed to bi***, like the doctor's misplacing my daughter's results today, I'm in my right to bi*** at them over that.





Now back on topic, Ebay turbos are a gamble, sometimes you hit it huge and sometimes you get taken by the company. Remember, when the part is cheap, it will almost always be of bad quality.

so i got my ebay 20g turbo and everything is good and it pulls hard at 15psi .harder then my t25 at 15psi but i will say there is a difference in bolt up u will need to do some mods in order for it to fit good but nothing to bad ill put pics up on my gallery when i get a chance

 

[JRSTANGE]

not that i care one way or the other on peoples opinions in here on this topic. But, wasnt thier a disgruntled employee from Garret posting around on a bunch of different forums stating the bad about the garret the company? I do recall seeing this on another forums.

Point being he was upset about the lay offs etc.. But, also made mention that certain turbos are made in China or mexico and then come back to the states and have a part or two such as housings change and then reboxed and sold as garrets.

Now I've seen no proof of this in the news etc.... But, I would doubt it to an extent. But, as every one else has stated they are a gamble. I've seen some friends on different makes and models pushing thier ebay turbo to ranges of 5psi to 20 psi making from 200whp to even 350whp+ depending on the car. With in some of those thier turbos have lasted years and other have lasted a short period of time. However alot of the issues with the ebay turbo's started back in the day and with more success stories i've seen latley with them it seems they have come a long way. However it's still a gamble.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[dsm-onster]

so i got my ebay 20g turbo and everything is good and it pulls hard at 15psi .harder then my t25 at 15psi but i will say there is a difference in bolt up u will need to do some mods in order for it to fit good but nothing to bad ill put pics up on my gallery when i get a chance

So does a $100 14b. So does a $200 used small 16g. Both of which typically lasts far longer. And, have proven to deliver far better results on multiple occasions vs the best results of an ebay turbo.

back to subject i dont see the point of spending x amount of money on a car that ## trying to blow up i mean every time i go to race i go all out or go home

Once you get your car running consistantly healthy, your turbo will finally see some normal use that most of us put a real 16g/20g through. Lets see if it can tolerate a normal 20psi tune with a stock long block over the course of a year. My 14b did that for YEARS after having over 150K on it before it finally let go. I don't know where you get the idea that getting a good deal on a turbo once instead of paying for a new turbo for a little more and replacing when it blows is what a "mama's boy" would do.

. . . On a positive note. I really like the china bay 16g 20g turbine housings. They have a better entry to the turbine blades with more of a radius. And it looks like a larger critical area than the typical 7cm^2 MHI housing. As well, the flapper arm sits out farther from the housing which allows for straight actuator arms like the ajustable garrett and holset actuators.