FULL SS FUEL LINE to stock pump assy???

[alexg1323]

Im looking to run full SS line to my stock fuel pump assy. Now ive been under there and i have dissassembled and looked at the stock rubber line that goes to the fuel pump assy. The fitting required looks to be a 14x1.5M inverted female flare. Though i see here

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and the write up steve tec did here http://www.stevetek.com/R-FuelSys.html they say nothing of a special fitting and he says "be sure to use alot of teflon tape here" This is an interfierance flare fitting and does not seal with teflon.

So if anyone has done this properly or knows of the fitting to convert to ss line i would appriciate it

 

[OneGeeAWD]

slowboy sells a whole stainless line kit from the tank to the filter. if you dont wanna buy their whole kit im sure you can ask for just the fitting from them
http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id=1892&

 

[OneGeeAWD]

sorry messed up that link above\
tank to filter fuel line

 

[alexg1323]

i already called them about this and i never really got the answer im looking for. And if they do know they said they dont sell it seperatly

Anyways does anyone know the proper fitting or what you personally used to adapt the stock assy to AN.


i should also add these kits are only for 1gs though i would think they share the same fittings in the fuel system i am doing this in a 2g.

 

[gamingguru]

I'm having the same problem with my fuel line. RIght now it's leaking all over when the pump is on. I think that I am going to run my hose up to the pump housing and then just clamp the SS hose over the metal output from the pump. Not sure if that will really help you or not, but that's what I'm planning on doing.

 

[alexg1323]

now correct me if im wrong but looks like the only way for this to be done simply and cleanly is to get an adapter fitting that converts 14x1.5m inverted female flare fitting to -06 AN male JIC fitting. By the responses it looks like this fitting doesnt exsist.

How many people would be interested in something like this if i was to have a small lot CNC machined. I believe this would apply to 1gs, 2gs, and most mitsubishis that use the same style fitting.

 

[alexg1323]

Here are pictures of my 95 awd pump assy for clarification that i took last time i had it out and when i discovered running new line was not going to bolt right up to the housing.

 

[maui6651]

I believe the fitting you are looking for is a standard -6 AN hose end. That is why the Stevetek site is somewhat ambiguous as to what to use.

 

[alexg1323]

a standard 6 AN hose end is a female flare and SAE thread. The fuel pump assembly is also female flare. Im confused as to how compressing two female flares is going to seal.

 

[DsMWookie]

What did you do to your hand alex!?!?!?


You can probably buy all the fittings at a local hardware/line place in town and have them make it for 50$ or less. Place called American hose here makes SS lines with fittings for dirt cheap.

 

[95AWD_TSI_TALON]

On my 2g AWD. My old fuel system was a -6an SS line up from the tank. I sold that set-up tho when I went to my cell. I got all my parts from my work (advance autoparts). Have them look in the NOS book. It cost me under 150 bucks.

-Need 8ft blue -6an line (is premade with fittings) i think the part # was 15280nos
- -6an fuel filter (used the little k+N but can't get them anymore) get an aeromotive or so
- and a -6an 45 degree swivel fitting with the fuel rail adapter from FIC.

line is about $58
filter about $50
fuel rail fitting 25 and 45 degree fitting was 12 bucks

The -6an thread right on, I zip tied the line to my brake lines under the car. Then under the car their is a small crack between the firewall and the sub frame. It fits through with so skill. The -10an was even harder where I had to push it through then add the fitting.

matthew


my gallery shows the -10an set up now

 

[95AWD_TSI_TALON]

PS- if you use the NOS brand lines they are crimped differently then Russel or Earl's fittings do. My buddy switched his system up with adding an in-line walbro, and we used Earl's fittings at the tank. The swivel fittings actual have a tiny bar that goes through the nut to hold it on and allow it to turn. Put a dab of jb weld in the TINY hole in the side of the AN nut and your problems will be gone.
Matthew


http://38.113.97.153/products/NOS/no01zh.asp

ps-15450nos is the part number you need not 15280nos. And on that link you can see the difference in the fittings. the color stands for its use---blue is nitrous and red is fuel-but I called Holley and both lines are IDENTICAL so can be used for either.

 

[alexg1323]

ive used these fittings before. but as far as all the ones ive seen the side that you would use to thread onto the pump assy is female, as you can see in the picture i posted the fuel pump assy is also female. so this would not be an interfierance fit. i cant see it sealing properly

 

[95AWD_TSI_TALON]

ive used these fittings before. but as far as all the ones ive seen the side that you would use to thread onto the pump assy is female, as you can see in the picture i posted the fuel pump assy is also female. so this would not be an interfierance fit. i cant see it sealing properly

No your FP assembly is male. You remove the short black hose that runs down to the metal fuel line on the car. And the -6an line (female fitting) screws DIRECTLY on.
Matthew

 

[alexg1323]

This is a male fitting on my pump.... but its an inverted flare, like a brake line. The AN swivel fittings are female but they are not inverted flare and are also female.

I understand it might thread on though i didnt think the threads were the same but non the less how does that seal?

 

[95AWD_TSI_TALON]

This is a male fitting on my pump.... but its an inverted flare, like a brake line. The AN swivel fittings are female but they are not inverted flare and are also female.

I understand it might thread on though i didnt think the threads were the same but non the less how does that seal?

You are correct. I have used the NOS brand lines and had no sealing issue on my car PERSONAL or my buddy's car when I did his kit. (same as I posted above) When he changed his set-up from the 8ft NOS brand line from tank to fuel rail, We got straight -6an hose and the Russel fittings. We assembled it together and started the car up. The fitting on the FP was leaking. The NOS brand is a 1pc coupling that is built around the line. The Russel fitting you can actually pop the tiny dowel rod out and hold the -6an cup in your hand. This is the difference. The Russel/earls fittings WILL NOT SEAL without assistance. I sealed the fitting up with a dab of JB weld in the tiny hole on the -6an cup (aka-where you put the wrench). His fuel line sealed no problem after that. Just as mine sealed no problem because the NOS brand is a different STYLE fitting. If you look at the link of the NOS lines you will see its a 1pc UN REMOVABLE fitting. when you tighten down the line it seals the line to the fitting and the fitting bottoms out on the FP sealing not against the inverted flare but against the rim of the male fitting.
Matthew

My fuel system never had any leaks nor did my friends after the JB trick. I was at 45psi base running 25psi = ~70psi of FP and my buddy was hitting mid 80psi according to his Stewart Warner guage (had two walbro).