fp manifold good for 450 -500 hp

[DsM KiD4]

Im building my 1g and looking to hit 450awhp with no budget, but trying to spend as little as possible. Do you guys think the fp race manifold is a going to get me there? i mean its $275 fp vs $550 for an ERL mani.... THanks!

 

[kchaazz]

If youre using a turbo with a mitsu bolt on style turbine housing, the FP mani is tough to beat and many of the FP DSM turbos offered today can get you beyond your goal. If you have E85 availible and have the supporting mods, Id get the BEP DSM bolt on turbine housing and an HX40 with the FP manifold. Cheap turbo setup and itll get you where you want to be.

 

[DsM KiD4]

ive been considering the hta gt3586 & hx40. I cant find any site vendors that sell holset though. looking for 450ish and pull hard up top. I just want my engine bay to look stock as possible thats why im interested in the fp mani

 

[TurboAnything]

Devin Schultz ran a FP mani with a T3 adapter plate and a fp3586 and made like 650hp.

 

[evil tsi]

dsm graveyard only sells hx35s but they have them with the bep and t3 flanges

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

If you are trying to keep it stock appearing and spend as little as possible, just port out a stock 2g manifold. http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/bolt-tech/353462-limits-stock-exhaust-manifold.html

 

[3parks]

Mine made it easy

 

[SOADweskey]

I made 452 on e85 with the FP manifold and a 8-blade HX-35 in the BEP DSM bolt on housing.

It isn't really stock appearing though since the turbo is huge and I am running a Tial MVS wastegate on the O2.

 

[NOSLO2PT0]

I've made close to 550whp on a $40 ported 2G exhaust manifold. If the turbo is big enough, it will make the power!

 

[DsM KiD4]

I've made close to 550whp on a $40 ported 2G exhaust manifold. If the turbo is big enough, it will make the power!

My friend is tryin to talk me into a holset setup t3/t4. I think either will get me to my goal but i dont want a tubular manifold thanks to chp being assholes. I want an hta 82 or 86 w/fp mani and e85. I want 400 ish on pump and 450 e85. Thoughts.....?

 

[DSMTyson]

My friend is tryin to talk me into a holset setup t3/t4. I think either will get me to my goal but i dont want a tubular manifold thanks to chp being assholes. I want an hta 82 or 86 w/fp mani and e85. I want 400 ish on pump and 450 e85. Thoughts.....?

Holset t3/t4? WTF

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Just look for a holset hx 40 on ebay and the classifieds on here, buy the Bullseye Performance (BEP) DSM bolt-on housing for it, a ported 2G manifold or FP manifold, an external wastegate off of the o2 housing, and some 272 cams. That should get you your goals as long as you have the supporting mods.

 

[SOADweskey]

My friend is tryin to talk me into a holset setup t3/t4. I think either will get me to my goal but i dont want a tubular manifold thanks to chp being assholes. I want an hta 82 or 86 w/fp mani and e85. I want 400 ish on pump and 450 e85. Thoughts.....?

On CA 91 pump I was knock limited to 306 AWHP (I have a 2.3l and they seem to be a bit more knock happy than the 2.0) The exact same dyno session we pumped out the last of the 91 and dumped in 10 gallons of e85 and we were able to up the timing and boost and get up to 452 AWHP.

In short I think your goal of 450 on e85 is reasonable but it will be difficult to see 400 on straight 91 octane.

 

[erickp86]

ive been considering the hta gt3586 & hx40. I cant find any site vendors that sell holset though. looking for 450ish and pull hard up top. I just want my engine bay to look stock as possible thats why im interested in the fp mani

For a man with "no budget", even considering a hta3586 is pretty nutty.

 

[DsM KiD4]

Holset t3/t4? WTF

holset hx35/40 flanged t3/t4

For a man with "no budget", even considering a hta3586 is pretty nutty.

i dont really get what you mean, like its overkill for my goals? Are you being sarcastic or what?

Any advice on an fp mani- hta 82/86 vs erl mani- hta gt3582/gt3586/hx35 For my goals of 450, assuming i have the supporting mods. Can any of these get me there with room for improvement. My main concern is keeping the mani stock looking, but if its clearly better performance-wise to go with a tubular, then ill go t3...

 

[UofACATS]

If you want a stock looking manifold, keep the stock manifold. You can port a 2G manifold and put the oem heat shield on it with the above mentioned bolt-on dsm housing HX-40. Support it and you'll hit 450whp. NOSLO2PT0 hit 550 on a 2G manifold. You don't need an aftermarket one.

Another bit of advice is not to go too big, be honest with what you want..

HX-35: 508/455 - http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/dyno-talk/375811-508hp-455tq-hx35-dyno.html

For a man with "no budget", even considering a hta3586 is pretty nutty.

I think he means no budget limitations.

 

[DsM KiD4]

I need to update my profile. I had an e3 mani/16g on my 1g. However, i put that turbo onto my 2g. I needed a new turbo for the first gen after that, so today i purchased an hta dsm3582 from fp. I will be using the e3 manifold i already have. This will be on the 1g. The hta3582 should be fine for want for now 450whp, with room to improve later when i decide to build. I also decided on the dsm flange because i can eventually use it on my 2g

 

[UofACATS]

I need to update my profile. I had an e3 mani/16g on my 1g. However, i put that turbo onto my 2g. I needed a new turbo for the first gen after that, so today i purchased an hta dsm3582 from fp. I will be using the e3 manifold i already have. This will be on the 1g. The hta3582 should be fine for want for now 450whp, with room to improve later when i decide to build. I also decided on the dsm flange because i can eventually use it on my 2g

There's a slight typo somewhere.

The FP HTA DSM82 has the bolt-on dsm housing (FP30), and can be used with your e3 manifold.

The FP HTA GT3582 has a few turbine housing options, none of which bolt-on to the dsm flange. (notice there's no "DSM" in the title of the turbo).

In my opinion, FP's bolt-on housing (FP30) is more appropriate for the compressor wheel of the FP3052, while the HTA'82 wheel pairs best with the T3 turbine housing. A slightly "mismatched" turbo doesn't mean it won't put down tremendous power and/or knock your socks off.. (I ran a 3065 ) but it won't be as efficient as it could be. When you have a 75lb/min (estimate) compressor wheel and talk of a "build," the bolt-on housing is the lesser of the two options, as compared to the basic .82 ar T3 housing (or bigger).

And for the record I've run 3 aftermarket turbos, all of which have been from FP. That they offer various combinations of turbine housing with your '82 wheel is great, but inherently means some will outperform the others.

450whp should be a matter of the basic supporting modifications.

 

[Ludachris]

Im building my 1g and looking to hit 450awhp with no budget, but trying to spend as little as possible. Do you guys think the fp race manifold is a going to get me there? i mean its $275 fp vs $550 for an ERL mani.... THanks!

Typical - all DSMers these days want 450-500 whp on a $500 budget. You might get there, but how long will it run?

You might be able to get there on an Evo manifold for a little less and stick with a Mitsu housing turbo. But an FP manifold will certainly do. The manifold won't be your hurdle, it'll be your turbo and tuning. Hopefully you're good at tuning yourself, otherwise it's going to be expensive.

 

[Pauly D]

Tims turbos sells holsets great price and some times they have the bep and holset combo for like 600 bucks plus they make the bep dsm housing for hx35 and 40 but a bit pricey.