FP green doesn't clear big water pipe!!

['97 Cayenne]

this thread was for my fp green clearance issues. it is no longer


This thread is for the problem i'm having with my misfire. 97 gsx with95 eprom and link. (swapped wires). You guys said it was ok for me to leave the blue/red wire coming from the coil pack plug cut and hanging with the other two coil pack wires. now everything is hooked up and im not getting spark out of one coil pack. cylinders 1 and 2. This blue engine speed detection plug is the plug that used to be connected to the blue/red wire coming from the coil pack. i've cut this blue plug off and misplaced it a while ago. however it seems as though the black/white wire may be connected to the blue/red inside the engine speed plug? if so, then I need to know where that black/white plug go to exactly. Or is this something else completely?

I may have found where it goes and thats to one of the black and white wires on the power transistor. i now have spark in all four cylinders. problem is it still wont start. i need any and all possibilities of why no start.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/151542343-post53.html

Video of not starting

http://s1125.photobucket.com/albums/l585/97Cayenne/?action=view&current=IMG_0806.mp4

 

[4cedFed]

Guess its the DSM way of being a cheap ass, i would rather do it properly with a simple spacer IMO

Call it what u you want, but that's jut plain stupid to spend the extra money for a spacer that will look like shit, whereas a dented water pipe you can't even notice when the turbo is in place.

It's not being a cheap ass, it's knowing of better ways to spend money and time then on a bs spacer... And who the hell really runs heat shields these days with a big turbo???

 

[cloead]

Don't see how it seems almost "gaudy" to you... Especially with a stock manifold most likely using the heat shield, you wont even be able to see it. All it is would be a 1/4" give or take spacer? But im more safe than sorry when i did my hx35 w/ BEP housing because i ran into this issue.

slightly denting the water pipe has NO ill effects. nothing to do with being a cheap ass.. its called making things fit.

running a spacer is a waste of money and potentially downtime while waiting for one to show up. simple solution would of been a couple whacks with the hammer and done

one could call you a cheap ass for running a POS hx35

 

['97 Cayenne]

Good good. I figure this thread will be active for a little while so with that, I have another noob question.
I'm cutting and tucking my engine harness and cut off all the plugs that I won't be using. They're all cut off but I came across this one wire that I have no idea where it goes. It's on the coil pack plug. There are three wires on this plug. Black with white stripe, blue with black stripe and a blue with red stripe. While cutting off the plugs I wasn't using, this blue with red stripe was attached to a plug I wasn't using so I cut it. Didn't realize at the time that it went to the coil pack plug. Can somebody please tell me where this wire goes to?!? I have a feeling that I'm going to need it. Rememember this is off a '97 gsx

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[dsm_92_fwd]

About 85% of dsm owners with a big turbo dent the water pipes and have been doing it for years without any problems.

Do it right and it's not a horrible idea.

who the hell runs a big turbo with a stock housing? Yes been there done that with clearance issues of a 2g as well. still not seeing exactly how it looks "like shit"?
Simple really cut the same flange your manifold would have and buy correct studs. Not had at all and takes less time then with your thumb up your posterior trying to figure out how to get mounted and to take days to ask about it on tuners... Obviously that isnt smart?

Edit; and i mean its something you can do at home with about 3 tools.... Cut off tool, drill press (or hand drill), and a bench grinder. Or like i said take it to a shop and do it properly instead of denting a good part.

 

[4cedFed]

who the hell runs a big turbo with a stock housing? Yes been there done that with clearance issues of a 2g as well. still not seeing exactly how it looks "like shit"?
Simple really cut the same flange your manifold would have and buy correct studs. Not had at all and takes less time then with your thumb up your posterior trying to figure out how to get mounted and to take days to ask about it on tuners... Obviously that isnt smart?>

Let me ask you, before you go yapping your mouth, who are you talking about running a big turbo with a stock housing? Surely not me unless u somehow can see my setup...which I doubt as the new motor isn't in my car yet..

Talk all the bs u want dude, your opinion obviously ment dick to everyone on this thread... As you can see your advice wasn't taken by the op or a majority of bt dsm owners...

You can run you mouth all you want, still don't change the fact that the majority of people don't and won't see it your way........ On to the next one... Your a waste of typing, actually mad I spent this long argueing with you over bullshit...

 

[4cedFed]

slightly denting the water pipe has NO ill effects. nothing to do with being a cheap ass.. its called making things fit.

running a spacer is a waste of money and potentially downtime while waiting for one to show up. simple solution would of been a couple whacks with the hammer and done

one could call you a cheap ass for running a POS hx35

!!!! Had to get one last laugh in at that last qoute..

 

[dsm_92_fwd]

Let me ask you, before you go yapping your mouth, who are you talking about running a big turbo with a stock housing? Surely not me I less u somehow an see my setup...

Talk all the bs u want dude, your opinion obviously ment dick to everyone on this thread... As you can see your advice wasn't taken by the op or a majority of bt dsm owners...

You can run you mouth all you want, still don't change the fact that the majority of people don't and won't see it your way........ On to the next one... Your a waste of typing, actually mad I spent this long argueing with you over bullshit...

The user above posted a picture of his FPblack with a stock housing similar to the OP is doing. So all you are doing is just insulting everyone on this page. Im personally rather glad its that easy to get your panties in a bunch. How exactly is it running my mouth? everyone is entitled to an opinion and seeing hes been having this dispute since the 10th it would have already been done, on, and running by now? Yes the opposition of suggesting an FP exhaust mani was brought up, but still even then the clearance issue occurs regardless of the fact that he will not have to deal with the cracking of a stock housing. You sir are just making everyone feel better about themselves seeing as you are the only one that verbally disagrees. Now if you could STFU for a minute while we give solutions to the OP because im sure hes itching to get his car back together

slightly denting the water pipe has NO ill effects. nothing to do with being a cheap ass.. its called making things fit.

running a spacer is a waste of money and potentially downtime while waiting for one to show up. simple solution would of been a couple whacks with the hammer and done

one could call you a cheap ass for running a POS hx35

And thats why the hx35 is gone, simply did not fit the bill. Tried seeing what the hype was about... not much. I will be switching to a BW set up. Back to the OP

 

[4cedFed]

The user above posted a picture of his FPblack with a stock housing similar to the OP is doing. So all you are doing is just insulting everyone on this page. Im personally rather glad its that easy to get your panties in a bunch. How exactly is it running my mouth? everyone is entitled to an opinion and seeing hes been having this dispute since the 10th it would have already been done, on, and running by now? Yes the opposition of suggesting an FP exhaust mani was brought up, but still even then the clearance issue occurs regardless of the fact that he will not have to deal with the cracking of a stock housing. You sir are just making everyone feel better about themselves seeing as you are the only one that verbally disagrees. Now if you could STFU for a minute while we give solutions to the OP because im sure hes itching to get his car back together



And thats why the hx35 is gone, simply did not fit the bill. Tried seeing what the hype was about... not much. I will be switching to a BW set up. Back to the OP

I find it funny you seem to be the only one sayin I'm insulting everyone when everyone has agreed he should dent the pipe instead of take your route.

Is it the 100% right way to do things no.. But neither is a spacer.. The right way would have been to buy an fp manifold, however he did not do that, as you can see..

And if you even notice he had chosen to dent the water pipe before even posting, he just didn't realize he had to dent it more.

Like I said, your information was worthless anyway, as you can see it wasn't used. Stop cluttering his thread up with bs because you want to try and prove that your way is the best way, if it was, the majority would be doing it.... No???

I leave with this, if you have more bs to talk, pm me instead of arguing over something that has already been completed.. Like I said, obviously your advice ment dick.

 

[cloead]

And thats why the hx35 is gone, simply did not fit the bill. Tried seeing what the hype was about... not much. I will be switching to a BW set up. Back to the OP

The hype is just cheap power.. I'm running an hx40 now just because it's hard to pass up a $200 500hp turbo. But they aren't that great.. and there's a reason they're so cheap. Lazy ass turbos.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

This was exactly what my morning needed.

Do I need to mention that denting the pipe works better than extra gaskets, flanges or spacers that are prone to leaks?

 

['97 Cayenne]

This was exactly what my morning needed.

Do I need to mention that denting the pipe works better than extra gaskets, flanges or spacers that are prone to leaks?

What I was thinkin

Now, anyone got an answer for my second question?

 

[kidtsi]

Calm down noobs a moderator is in here

 

[4cedFed]

Calm down noobs a moderator is in here

Not to egg on anything, but bein a noob on "this" forum means absolutely nothing in comparison with how much skill someone has. For all we know your a noob that joined a year or 2 ago and just listed a bunch of crap to fill out a profile. No reason to start a fire that's not needed.

Iv already been warned by a mod and although it means nothing to me, because a majority of all my post are helpful to other members, I'll respect the warning.

Sorry op, I have no clue where that wire goes.

 

[kidtsi]

Not to egg on anything, but bein a noob on "this" forum means absolutely nothing in comparison with how much skill someone has. For all we know your a noob that joined a year or 2 ago and just listed a bunch of crap to fill out a profile. No reason to start a fire that's not needed.

Iv already been warned by a mod and although it means nothing to me, because a majority of all my post are helpful to other members, I'll respect the warning.

Sorry op, I have no clue where that wire goes.

common man i forgot the JK part you forget sponsored noob of me and my car magazine article. ok ill go out of this thread i think someone got mad on just a little of sense of humor. bye bye

 

[4cedFed]

common man i forgot the JK part

Lol, well that makes a BIG difference on how people will take that comment.. No hard feelings though.

 

[kidtsi]

Op i forgot to answer you #2 question, thats you Engine speed detertor cable. Do not remove that or your gonna brunning on 2 cylinders, put it back on the blue connector with the other wires. that wire doesnt connect to anything its like the timing test connector or fuel pump test connector, they are on the firewall.
People use that connector for tachometer signal sometimes. Remmember to keep that wires together.

 

[kidtsi]

Good luck with your HTA Fp green i had it and was fun trapping 135s with it

 

['97 Cayenne]

Op i forgot to answer you #2 question, thats you Engine speed detertor cable. Do not remove that or your gonna brunning on 2 cylinders, put it back on the blue connector with the other wires. that wire doesnt connect to anything its like the timing test connector or fuel pump test connector, they are on the firewall.
People use that connector for tachometer signal sometimes. Remmember to keep that wires together.

I knew it! The thing is, yeah it was attached to that blue engine speed detector but it wasn't plugged in at all. When I got the car it was zip tied up just chillin and I was running on all four. But the second wire coming from that engine speed detector, where does it go? And if it wasn't plugged in at all shouldn't I have been running only on two?

 

[kidtsi]

I knew it! The thing is, yeah it was attached to that blue engine speed detector but it wasn't plugged in at all. When I got the car it was zip tied up just chillin and I was running on all four. But the second wire coming from that engine speed detector, where does it go? And if it wasn't plugged in at all shouldn't I have been running only on two?

Man that connector shouldnt be connected to anything it come stock like that umplugged just like you fuel pump test connector, just keep it together with the oother wires.

 

['97 Cayenne]

Ok good news to hear thanks alot

Good luck with your HTA Fp green i had it and was fun trapping 135s with it

would you care to elaborate on the setup you had at the time with your HTA?

 

[kidtsi]

Ok good news to hear thanks alot



would you care to elaborate on the setup you had at the time with your HTA?

its all on my profile, i havent updated the times though, 10.75 at 135.2 on street tires the turbo was maxed out at 36 psi running e85. this was a month ago i just sent the turbo to Fp for inspection and then sold it, im gonna go for the fastest 2g on dsmlink with a Hta GT3794.

 

[eclipse gsx]

its all on my profile, i havent updated the times though, 10.75 at 135.2 on street tires the turbo was maxed out at 36 psi running e85. this was a month ago i just sent the turbo to Fp for inspection and then sold it, im gonna go for the fastest 2g on dsmlink with a Hta GT3794.

wow man that's amazing u know what? we should meet up . we live a couple of hours away

 

[gsxtreme1987]

would that dent make the car over heat ? i had to do something simular

No it will not as long as you didn't bend the shit out of it...

 

[kidtsi]

wow man that's amazing u know what? we should meet up . we live a couple of hours away

i know right, there is just one problem. i moved to htown.

 

[96GSXDave]

i know right, there is just one problem. i moved to htown.

HTOWN is where it's at. The DSM scene is good here. Lots of fast cars.