Finally, a good quiet muffler

[CPHunter]

I'm gonna Jock your style and order one of these. Sounds Sweet

 

[blcknspo0ln]

That sounds really freakin good, Matt.

 

[Killa_dsm]

Thanks for the vid. That has motivated me some more to start saving some cash!

 

[CPHunter]

can we get a vendor to sell these

 

[Killa_dsm]

can we get a vendor to sell these

Yeah I wish, it would make things a lot easier for people who want it.

 

[blackGSX2g]

Thanks guys, I'll get a good highway vid comparing the interior noise difference here in a bit.

It would have been nice to see a US vendor pick up the rights to these, but I couldn't wait that long. I think other countries might have more strict rules on exhaust noise, so that might contribute to why there is a greater demand overseas. That or the fact that nobody knows they exist over here since it took me a long time to stumble on it.

 

[jjrock5]

So any updates on vendors selling these?

Hows the muffler so far?

Edit:

Ok so I just went on the Redline site and did a quick checkout to see what it would cost to ship to the US. Total shipped came out to 685.50 NZD.

I used coinmill.com to get the most current updates on the currency exchange and I got a USD amount of $506.50. Holy christ! I was going to pick it up if I was going to get it for what the OP payed but I wont now...

 

[blackGSX2g]

So any updates on vendors selling these?

Hows the muffler so far?

Edit:

Ok so I just went on the Redline site and did a quick checkout to see what it would cost to ship to the US. Total shipped came out to 685.50 NZD.

I used coinmill.com to get the most current updates on the currency exchange and I got a USD amount of $506.50. Holy christ! I was going to pick it up if I was going to get it for what the OP payed but I wont now...

Muffler is still working great. Got about 3k miles on it now with no problems.

Not sure what made the price go up, I didn't think the currency exchange fluctuated that much. Still worth it to me, I would have easily paid that.

 

[jjrock5]

Do you have any pics of how you installed this onto your existing exhaust piping? since the Varex comes with a flange.

 

[black_gst]

I WANT ONE! but i dont know about 5 bills thats steep

well i just check NZD to USD and it will cost about $400USD + shipping

 

[rEclipserGST]

I WANT ONE! but i dont know about 5 bills thats steep

well i just check NZD to USD and it will cost about $400USD + shipping

I concur.

 

[Colt4G63 also]

Even at $300 that's quite a lot of cash for a muffler. Don't get me wrong, I like it a lot, but damn!
Has anyone tried using Cherry Bomb glass packs as resonators? It seems like you could make the whole system out of 3" by 16" glasspacks, add a $100, 3"inlet/dual outlet muffler to the end, and still have some cash left over. I need to build a system for my car one day soon, and I like quiet too, but with the current exchange rate that thing is waaay out of the question for me right now.

If anyone else knows a good quiet setup, that works for poor people like me, please chime in.

 

[LiquidX]

Even at $300 that's quite a lot of cash for a muffler. Don't get me wrong, I like it a lot, but damn!
Has anyone tried using Cherry Bomb glass packs as resonators? It seems like you could make the whole system out of 3" by 16" glasspacks, add a $100, 3"inlet/dual outlet muffler to the end, and still have some cash left over. I need to build a system for my car one day soon, and I like quiet too, but with the current exchange rate that thing is waaay out of the question for me right now.

If anyone else knows a good quiet setup, that works for poor people like me, please chime in.

Once I need to redo my exhaust, I was going to do an idea similar. Just use as many resonators/mini mufflers that I could. I woult rather have the 3" exhaust flow ALL the time but with stock sounds.
I'm currently running a high flow cat, 2 resonators (12" and 24") and the 3"in - dual 3" outlet magnaflow. It's still loud...

 

[jjrock5]

You will NOT have quiet and performance ALL the time...

I used to run a Thermal catback, catless downpipe, with a welded in Vibrant 18" resonator and a Vibrant stealth 2.5" in/dual 3" tips muffler. Even then the resonance was noticeable...

Go check out my vids on YouTube. Screen name JJROCK5 and you can hear the sound.

Im not talking that I want to "quiet down" my exhaust. I want the drone or any resonance GONE (just like stock) and want the performance (and noise) whenever I want to. The Varex will do this.

I know a cutout with stock exhaust will do this but by the time you get yourself the cutout AND a stock exhaust, there goes your ~$400.

 

[T_K]

Apparently there's a way to have both.

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This is a secondary muffler which is simply closed off. Now there might be a bit more about it, I don't know all the details yet, but I'm talking to a friend right now who just did it to his Audi and he says dyno before and after shows 0 hp difference (professionally tuned 1.8T A3 with a GT28R I think, 270lbs/ft) He and others claim that the result is a car quiet as stock even with a full 3" exhaust. This is some euro secret looks like which started with BMWs, I haven't seen anything similar here yet. There must be some magic trick. I'm waiting for pics of exactly what he did on his Audi.

If anybody has any info about this please share. I am very interested in getting my car a lot quieter.

 

[91tizzy]

Is that thing in a ditch?

Looks interesting but would draw aLOT of attention and way too many questions.

 

[T_K]

Yeah that happened I think last winter. Luckily there were a few other cars driving with this one and helped pull it out. The driver promptly and enthusiastically got in another ditch not 10 min. later oh well. Not my business to judge!

I think the secondary muffler can be made pretty unobtrusive unless someone specifically looks under the car. I'm not sure how can it ever draw a LOT of attention unless you have people looking under your car all the time?...

EDIT: the secondary muffler supposedly works as a "helmholtz resonator".

 

[91tizzy]

from the pics it does not seem very hidden....our exhausts are quite viewable from behind I dont see how everyone driving behind the car could not notice actually if its stock suspension or stock ride height. Oh well if it works and could be hidden then hell yeah

 

[MIdsm]

The closed off muffler acts like a Helmholtz resonator. Majority of NA cars have a Helmholtz resonator as a part of the intake tract to quiet down the intake roar. Without the resonator the intake would probably be louder than a stock exhaust and cars couldn't pass drive by noise tests. The exhaust Helmholtz resonators are nothing new. I remember seeing a dyno run on a motorcycle where one of the exhaust cans has been capped about a decade ago. The size and shape of the resonator determine the sound frequencies that get cancelled.

 

[Fabian]

Apparently there's a way to have both.

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I'm not kidding or lying when I tell you that they sell these exact same mufflers out of pepboys. I used to work at the pepboys speed shop and we had a couple of those mufflers layin around the shop and I always kinda wondered what they would sound like on a dsm. They're definitely nothing NEW, but they'll run you about $50 from Pepboys.

 

[jjrock5]

Pepboys has a speed shop????

 

[blackGSX2g]

Do you have any pics of how you installed this onto your existing exhaust piping? since the Varex comes with a flange.

I just welded a standard 3" 2-bolt flange onto my existing 3" exhaust. Picked it up from Vibrant Performance.

Like JJROCK posted, I wanted to get rid of the drone completely, especially on the highway. I'm sure you can tune the sound of your exhaust by adding different length resonators, but keep in mind that is just adding weight, restricting airflow, and eating up valuable real estate underneath the car.

As for the Helmholz resonators, I just couldn't stomach doing that set-up on my car. I've seen some that loop around behind the rear bumper that would work, but you would really need to cut out the spare tire well to give yourself enough room.

As I posted earlier, I don't regret for a second buying this, and would gladly pay $500 for it. Maybe Raceland will have get enough interest in their 3" models and start to produce those locally for cheaper.

 

[T_K]

I could very well end up with your muffler but I wonder how long will the motor last? I like dumb solutions, generally, cause they are the most robust.

 

[Bender]

I run 3 inline resonators through a 3" inlet, 4.5" muffler. No droning at all.

Well.. I did. I'm now running a 4" open dump out the front bumper.

 

[T_K]

So here's what my friend with the Audi did

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Looks like the exact position doesn't matter that much.

These are his dyno graphs:

before

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after

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