Fastest DAILY DRIVEN DSM?

[TurboAnything]

Mike Reichen YouTube - Mike Reichen's EVO 2 runs a 9.3 @ 166 MPH on a true street tire

 

[diambo4life]

I dunno, to me it seems like a car with no creature comforts is not a DD. You start running twindisc's, dogboxes, removing power steering, AC, cruise, sound deadning and your entering street legal race car territory.

Also, I think that a DD should be capable of tunring identical times on a local black top at the drop of a hat, as it does on the drag strip. That means no slicks no race fuel

Everyone has got there own idea of a DD. I think that HRM's pump gas drags, or drag week is a great way to test the DDability of your vehicle.

Just a note, there are cars that don't have these things from the factory. That is not a good barometer of what's a DD or not.

 

[Ineedboostman]

A dd is your main source of transportation. The vehicle the drive everyday. Why is everyone making this difficult. Doesn't matter what's on it if you drive it everyday then it's your dd.

 

[92AWDHX40]

I knew this was never going to be a exact answer he wanted. It can go on and on.

 

[Slippi84]

Are you including EVo's if so prob Bushur's evo.

 

[hubz91talontsi]

My DD (my only car) had aluminum rods, no heat, no ac, no wipers, and a kirkey. Completly gutted dash and a passenger seat. Also ran a small battery, and even a honda half rad ... im just that good.

 

[Slippi84]

My DD (my only car) had aluminum rods, no heat, no ac, no wipers, and a kirkey. Completly gutted dash and a passenger seat. Also ran a small battery, and even a honda half rad ... im just that good.

Or just short on cash

 

[TSimage]

this is a tough category......

-daily drivers don't run on slicks
-don't run on race gas
-in most of the country don't run on E85
-don't have rollbars or cages
-don't run NOS
-don't run small batteries
-don't run 3100 Pressure plates
-dont have one seat
-don't have 5 point harnesses

and on and on. So, yeah, what's a daily driver?

Guys that have 7 second Mustangs think they have daily drivers....cars can barely turn...

WTF


I have to disagree with this post to the fullest..

Nothing of it is credible to be defined...

I can DD go-kart if I wanted to, if I DD it then it is my DD, period.

What does ANYTHING on your list have to do with a DD??


If I buy a flex fuel vehicle that runs on E85, by your definition its not a DD. Thats kind of absurd dotcha think?


You are making it far too complicated. Why in the hell would you ponder the question, "What makes a DD a DD??"

WTF?



IF IT IS DAILY DRIVEN!

Sounds pretty simple to me .. Don't classify it in a way it needs not be classified. If you DD the car as in it is substantially your MAIN form of transportation then it is your DD..

 

[Phil1320]

WTF


I have to disagree with this post to the fullest..

Nothing of it is credible to be defined...

I can DD go-kart if I wanted to, if I DD it then it is my DD, period.

What does ANYTHING on your list have to do with a DD??


If I buy a flex fuel vehicle that runs on E85, by your definition its not a DD. Thats kind of absurd dotcha think?


You are making it far too complicated. Why in the hell would you ponder the question, "What makes a DD a DD??"

WTF?



IF IT IS DAILY DRIVEN!

Sounds pretty simple to me .. Don't classify it in a way it needs not be classified. If you DD the car as in it is substantially your MAIN form of transportation then it is your DD..

Of course you do! I wouldn't expect anything else!

If you buy a flex fuel vehicle by my definition you wasted a ton of money.

I'm not making it too complicated, it IS too complicated. As I said elsewhere, everyone's opinion of what is a daily driver is will differ.

My DD (my only car) had aluminum rods, no heat, no ac, no wipers, and a kirkey. Completly gutted dash and a passenger seat. Also ran a small battery, and even a honda half rad ... im just that good.

Yeah......just that good huh? I picture you dressed up like an eskimo rolling down the street in your "no heat" dsm in the PA winter......

 

[diambo4life]

Very few DSMs are truly daily driven and even fewer of those DDs are fast. I still like your list Phil. It's a good bar for a true street driven car.

 

[burkgonzo]

This thread hurts my head.

 

[constant_proj21]

I knew this was never going to be a exact answer he wanted. It can go on and on.

Um, well if this was directed at me, the OP, then no I haven't gotten "the answer I wanted", because its becoming more of an argument of "what a daily driver is".

Are you including EVo's if so prob Bushur's evo.

Nope, evo's are a completely different animal, I don't see why they get bunched together with dsm's so often.

I think a lot of you are arguing for the sake of arguing (typical forum thing to do it seems). Here is my definition of a daily driver-

1)Drive it daily
2)When its broken, you fix it, and continue to drive it daily.

I think thats about all the definition anyone would need to meet the requirements. I wouldn't even include myself in this (not that my dsm was fast), since my car was often times down, and is parked all winter. A friend of mine put an easy 20k miles on his modded 1g, made somewhere around 450whp, and the only time it would down, was for oil changes, and maintenance. Id say he daily drove the crap out of that thing.

Lets all pull the stick out of our bums, and stop being so uptight for a second, and stop making a very simple thing, overly complicated

 

[95eclipser]

Well this thread has gotten off topic. But if i had to choose i would say "Cory's eviltsi from stm" is my definition of a fast DD.

 

[gofer]

I can tell you two facts from reading through this thread...

1. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink!
2. Phil1/4mile hates E85!

I'm joking about everyones opinion, I think they are ALL important but without set guidelines to what a DD should be considered then your just shooting in the dark looking for an answer. To the OP, make a list of what YOU would consider a DD as far as modifications (and fuel used) go and how often the cars driven and then someone can atleast post a DSM within those guidelines. Of course everyones opinion about what a DD is will change but this is your thread so set the guidelines of what YOU think a DD should be considered.

 

[constant_proj21]

I think I made it clear in a couple post above. If you put miles on your DSM, drive it everyday, and its reliable and fast....then you have a fast DD...I see that as a simple definition. If you have a full cage, run only e98, have a 4202, and make 900hp...and drive it everyday..then more power to ya, you have a fast DD then! I don't see how modifications are clouding up everyones answer.

 

[Slippi84]

I think the big problem is Street car /= DD (in case you don't know how to read that it means not equal too). Meaning a dd does not have top be a street car. If your completely insane or just stupid and want to break the law and or don't care about being cold or hot you can drive a true track car every single day and guess what it's your dd. You may only drive 3 miles to work like my stepdad or live in a state where they don't have emissions laws ect. but for the most part acorss the US you have to have seat belts lights that work carrying nitrous without a permit isn't allowed roll cages also no bueno.

 

[TSimage]

I'm not making it too complicated, it IS too complicated. As I said elsewhere, everyone's opinion of what is a daily driver is will differ.

This is NOT complicated and no need for anyones "opinion"..


What makes a black car black? Um, maybe the fact that it is black...

What makes a Turbo car turbo? Possibly the fact it has turbo...


You see where I am going here with how "basic" the phrase is?

So again.. What makes a DAILY DRIVER a DAILY DRIVER?

Maybe when it is DAILY DRIVEN...

Simple.


Saying that if someone bought a flex fuel vehicle they wasted money, isn't answering the question, its avoiding the obvious and has little to do juxtaposed to the question at hand.

Telling someone that their car isn't a daily driver just because they have harnesses or whatever else makes no sense. If I daily drive a car as in it is my main form of transportation I can have a fking 25.5 spec cage in it if I wanted to with a parachute mount on the back and a fire suppression system.

Ask yourself, "Does that change whether or not the car is DAILY DRIVEN?"

No.

So again, it is simple, and requires zero opinions. All that is needed is basic comprehension and by 'basic' I am talking simply the ability to read or at least sound out the words:

"DAILY."

"DRIVEN."

See, easy.

On a aside note I have personally put 60-100 miles round trip on cars I had that were either gutted, on E85, had harnesses, whatever DAILY 7 days a week... I put more miles on that car daily driving it and commuting than a lot of people with ecoboxes and similar. Sounds like people are more so arguing what equates to a "street car" than a Daily Driver...

 

[constant_proj21]

^^BINGO, he gets it!

 

[supravw]

Are you including EVo's if so prob Bushur's evo.

Seeing as the thread title is "fastest dd DSM", I don't think we're talking evo's.

I agree with the simple guys, daily driver means your primary mode of transportation. Not you can drive it on the street, not you drive it on the weekend, not you drive it to the track. I would consider summer only cars to be dailys as snow/salt doesn't exactly do good things to your car.

 

[Silent3]

I know this has been said but... defining "Daily Driver" is like defining the word "Horse". It is what it is. Daily. Driven... Driven Daily, regardless of exhaust, roll cage, any of that... doesn't matter.. If you drive it every day its a daily driver.

Period. Anybody who disagrees is stupid.

 

[945liter]

1990 GSX ONLY running car
200k on drivetrain
eagle/JE bottom end
HX40 @30PSI E85
CAMS/SMIM ETC THE GOOD STUFF

Depending what im doing i put 40-80 miles a day and tomorrow morning im driving up to the track 100miles away PBIR

 

[Phil1320]

Very few DSMs are truly daily driven and even fewer of those DDs are fast. I still like your list Phil. It's a good bar for a true street driven car.

Word.

^^BINGO, he gets it!

Oh yeah, I just got a verbal smackdown

This is NOT complicated and no need for anyones "opinion"..


What makes a black car black? Um, maybe the fact that it is black...

What makes a Turbo car turbo? Possibly the fact it has turbo...


You see where I am going here with how "basic" the phrase is?

So again.. What makes a DAILY DRIVER a DAILY DRIVER?

Maybe when it is DAILY DRIVEN...

Simple.


Saying that if someone bought a flex fuel vehicle they wasted money, isn't answering the question, its avoiding the obvious and has little to do juxtaposed to the question at hand.

Telling someone that their car isn't a daily driver just because they have harnesses or whatever else makes no sense. If I daily drive a car as in it is my main form of transportation I can have a fking 25.5 spec cage in it if I wanted to with a parachute mount on the back and a fire suppression system.

Ask yourself, "Does that change whether or not the car is DAILY DRIVEN?"

No.

So again, it is simple, and requires zero opinions. All that is needed is basic comprehension and by 'basic' I am talking simply the ability to read or at least sound out the words:

"DAILY."

"DRIVEN."

See, easy.

On a aside note I have personally put 60-100 miles round trip on cars I had that were either gutted, on E85, had harnesses, whatever DAILY 7 days a week... I put more miles on that car daily driving it and commuting than a lot of people with ecoboxes and similar. Sounds like people are more so arguing what equates to a "street car" than a Daily Driver...

" and no need for anyones "opinion".." so what it this ^ ?

Oh almighty TSImage, you are the LAST word in all things DSM. I totally agree with you...you are right.....I should be ashamed of myself with the things I say, I got it DAILY DRIVER. It won't happen again O' Master of all things DSM TSImage

 

[eclipsed4seed99]

^^^^^ It's about damn time.

 

[SBstar]

Wow this thread turned for the worst Entertaining though.

My car is not daily driven, but easily could be, I just choose not too. So according to these definitions it is not a DD, it is simply a street car. So basically what we're saying, is if Shep decides to take his talon to the grocery store around the corner every day for a week, it can be considered a daily driver. I guess it comes down to the OP, but I would've considered his question to be about the fastest car that can actually legally be driven as DD, by our new definitions a street car.

 

[TSimage]

" and no need for anyones "opinion".." so what it this ^ ?

Oh almighty TSImage, you are the LAST word in all things DSM. I totally agree with you...you are right.....I should be ashamed of myself with the things I say, I got it DAILY DRIVER. It won't happen again O' Master of all things DSM TSImage

Thank you good sir for coming to thine senses. Yee shall be pardoned of procuring transgressions.

On a serious note, there was no verbal bashing, just pointing out what seemed quite obvious. What I said wasn't an opinion, it was assisting with comprehension. I needn't say anything, the phrase itself describes what it is.

A daily driver is a daily driven car i.e. ones main form of transportation. I am more so trying to see your angle of categorizing it when to me it seems plain as day. So don't take offense to it, I'd love to hear why you think that defining it is so complicated.

Wow this thread turned for the worst Entertaining though.

My car is not daily driven, but easily could be, I just choose not too. So according to these definitions it is not a DD, it is simply a street car. So basically what we're saying, is if Shep decides to take his talon to the grocery store around the corner every day for a week, it can be considered a daily driver. I guess it comes down to the OP, but I would've considered his question to be about the fastest car that can actually legally be driven as DD, by our new definitions a street car.

Every day for a week? And then what? it sits? If he always drove the thing, every day on the street to and fro, I don't see how you could deny that it was his daily driver. If he drives it more than anything else regardless on the fact he'd be shelling out major cash to keep filling it up with Meth it would in fact be his DD...

Now it is not a "STREET CAR" which is what I think people are trying to define which in itself is more debatable but to that argument I simply say look towards your track rules that define a "street car" and there's your answer.

Eh, its just something to pass the time I suppose.