emusa coilover set

[jordancespedes4]

I know this should be on the parts review section but since im a newbie is not letin me .

I purchased a coilover set from emusa last month.im a student in a tight budget and needed some kind of upgrade from my blown stock suspension .the ebay seller sell this for 450 shipped but i call emusa and i got it for 375 shipped. I know there is other reviews about this coilover set ,but since emusa revised this product im doing a new review .I was goint to buy the tokico hp set but i took a chance with this ones .I cant drive my car right now because i need to replace the rear hub and bearing so i i haven't install the coilvers. ( car is my dd )

This set is 16way damping adjustable , not sure but i think is to adjust the rebound.

Pillow ball top mounts but no camber plates, i checked for play and everything looks to be fine.

Individual height adjustment.

Front spring rate 8kg , Rear is 6 kg

and here are some pics i took today one front and one rear . I ll update when i install them prabably in a couple of weeks. sorry for the big pics

<a href="http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/?action=view&amp;current=CIMG5462.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/CIMG5462.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/?action=view&amp;current=CIMG5459.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/CIMG5459.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/?action=view&amp;current=CIMG5467.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/CIMG5467.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/?action=view&amp;current=CIMG5465.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/CIMG5465.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/?action=view&amp;current=CIMG5471.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/CIMG5471.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/?action=view&amp;current=CIMG5466.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/CIMG5466.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/?action=view&amp;current=CIMG5470.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g304/jordancespedes/coilovers/CIMG5470.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

 

[Revmoto]

So would you recommend getting them? The roads here aren't too entirely bad, and when they are, I take it easy on the car.

NO!, anyone in this thread who says yes has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

ask yourself:
Do you want a properly performing shock?
Do you want a suspension that absorbs road bumps?
Do you want a suspension that will last more than a year?
Do you not want to waste your money?
Do you track your car?

If you answered yes to any of these then don't go the coil over route unless you are ready to spend big bucks. Their isn't a coil over in your price range that can compete with a koni yellow/eibach combo.

Your'e misunderstanding. He means that you need not focus so intently on gsx vs gst spring rates on aftermarket springs/coilovers. The motion ratio of a GST and a GSX is not so astronomical that you could not use either one. I mean, a lot of manufacturers don't even differentiate. However, there have been reports of a rather stiff rear end when running cheap awd springs in the rear of a gst and of course the opposite has been found to be true, too.

For example, if I was choosing custom rates for my GST or my GSX, I'd still be getting 500fr/300r or something along those lines.

AWD cars inherently understeer which is why a stiffer rear rate is needed and running the same rates on a fwd car is improper. The chassy may be the same but the cars suspension geometry isn't. These budget companies replicate not innovate so their understanding on what performs well lacks some to the industry's standard.

 

[Ravensfan314]

So is there any suspension setup you would recommend in the 400-500 dollar range? This is just my DD car, I never plan on autocrossing it or anything. Maybe take it to the strip once in a blue moon but nothing more.

 

[Revmoto]

So is there any suspension setup you would recommend in the 400-500 dollar range? This is just my DD car, I never plan on autocrossing it or anything. Maybe take it to the strip once in a blue moon but nothing more.

Nothing that is an upgrade in that price range really. If you are running old shocks then adding springs to them is pointless. AGX or koni yellows are good stock replacement dampeners. Mix that with H&R springs or eibach sport lines and you will have a nice handling vehicle.

 

[Leonthefaded]

Dude you shouldn't talk as you want to purchase a more expensive version of shitty coil overs. I think most of you in here need to learn to research more and take what others recommend with a grain of salt. Proper coil overs start at $1,800 and anything below that will not out perform a proper stock strut and spring replacement. If you want a bouncy horrible handling ride then go ahead and order whatever color coil over matches your car so you can brag about owning coil overs.

Okay! That was the plan anyway. If I wanted premium suspension I would pay premium price for them. The only reason I would get something like an 1,800 dollar set would be if I was doing track days with my car - I'm not.

So basically for astetic reasons and those reasons only would I be getting this set or a set like it. Especially since i like the colors. They would be a +1 from stock I can see that just visually. They would more than likely perform on the street ALOT better than my stock Shocks and Struts on the lower, or cut springs (still havent confirmed)

If anything just to add to this I will problably be going for all around Megan Racing suspension and handling mods. Upper front and rear, lower rear strut tie bars, coilovers etc. Hopefully if my luck plays out all from Ebay

 

[Ravensfan314]

Nothing that is an upgrade in that price range really. If you are running old shocks then adding springs to them is pointless. AGX or koni yellows are good stock replacement dampeners. Mix that with H&R springs or eibach sport lines and you will have a nice handling vehicle.

I'm not even really looking for an upgrade though, just something to replace my blown shocks with almost 140,000 on them. Are these coilovers really that bad?

 

[PieEyedPiper]

AWD cars inherently understeer which is why a stiffer rear rate is needed and running the same rates on a fwd car is improper. The chassy may be the same but the cars suspension geometry isn't. These budget companies replicate not innovate so their understanding on what performs well lacks some to the industry's standard.

This post is all kinds of redundant.

Btw, FWD's understeer too.
I'm glad you have your opinion and all but you've not provided substanial evidence that EVERYONE WHO SAYS IT COULD BE DONE IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's never ideal - that should be obvious. And just out of curiosity, what type of DSM do you own?

Anyways, No one ought to try and "upgrade" their suspension with a budget of 400-500. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

 

[Revmoto]

This post is all kinds of redundant.

Btw, FWD's understeer too.
I'm glad you have your opinion and all but you've not provided substanial evidence that EVERYONE WHO SAYS IT COULD BE DONE IS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's never ideal - that should be obvious. And just out of curiosity, what type of DSM do you own?

Anyways, No one ought to try and "upgrade" their suspension with a budget of 400-500. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

Are you questioning me and then agreeing with me? Your post doesn't make sense. I drive an evo not a dsm and I don't need to own one to understand suspensions on different platforms.

 

[Leonthefaded]

Are you questioning me and then agreeing with me? Your post doesn't make sense. I drive an evo not a dsm and I don't need to own one to understand suspensions on different platforms.

Then what relevance does your post or opinion really have here?

 

[SupremeDsm]

why are you guys bringing something back that is a yr old thats what i wanna know.

 

[jtmcinder]

AWD cars inherently understeer ....

Please stop. Seriously. Your simplistic and false statements are annoying and chasing them all down will be a total pain.

In the spare time that you'll have not posting, maybe read up on some rear-engine AWD cars.

 

[Ravensfan314]

Anyways, No one ought to try and "upgrade" their suspension with a budget of 400-500. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

Like I said before, I'm not trying to get a big upgrade, I just want something to replace blown stock struts for daily driving. I don't need anything overly fancy and expensive. I just wanted to know if they were good for that much.

 

[jtmcinder]

Blown shocks and $500 available ... that's tough. Personally, I'd save up the other $200 or so for Konis. A brand new set of KYBs is within your range, of course, but that takes you back to zero. Just don't split the difference and get Illuminas. That's a middle-ground that is really lose/lose (as in more $ than KYBs and not really any better).

 

[H4G64T]

This is how your suspension upgrades should go for a 2G:

- Blown Stocks? Replace them with stock or Tokico Illuminas with Pro Kit
- Consider Megan/D2/KSport if you only care about daily driving and getting the "stance" you want.
- Performance suspension? DGR is the bottom of the line you should look into, and look at the DG setup as-well, but KW Variant 3's are the real way to go for out of the box.

 

[Ravensfan314]

Guess I'll have to wait another month so I can save up then. Being 19 sucks when it comes to money....

 

[jtmcinder]

- Blown Stocks? Replace them with stock or Tokico Illuminas with Pro Kit

Sigh. Well, at least you didn't say SportLines.

 

[Revmoto]

Please stop. Seriously. Your simplistic and false statements are annoying and chasing them all down will be a total pain.

In the spare time that you'll have not posting, maybe read up on some rear-engine AWD cars.

ahahaha simplistic huh? Oh yeah forgot about those awd mid engine cars like lambo's. I don't have to read this forum for information as I aid dsm's out on the track. I work with a lot of platforms and know what works and what doesn't. I have read all that I need to on here as this forum is filled with users raving about megan and tein with nothing to compare against then blown struts. Most of you wisemen aren't as wise as you think but only appear it compared to the majority on this forum. Sorry if I hurt anyones feelings

 

[H4G64T]

Sigh. Well, at least you didn't say SportLines.

There are a million people running this same setup successfully. The name of the thread was not "I am building a road race beast and need to know what is the greatest suspension ever." I agree with all your comments in this thread but this one, not everyone needs the best suspensions, and this combo is a wonderful in-between factory and race quality suspension.

 

[Leonthefaded]

ahahaha simplistic huh? Oh yeah forgot about those awd mid engine cars like lambo's. I don't have to read this forum for information as I aid dsm's out on the track. I work with a lot of platforms and know what works and what doesn't. I have read all that I need to on here as this forum is filled with users raving about megan and tein with nothing to compare against then blown struts. Most of you wisemen aren't as wise as you think but only appear it compared to the majority on this forum. Sorry if I hurt anyones feelings

I still dont see where any of your words have any kind of weight in this forum period. You dont own a DSM. You havent owned a set of Emusa coilovers, and dont seem to have an open mind towards them... so who cares what you think

 

[Revmoto]

I still dont see where any of your words have any kind of weight in this forum period. You dont own a DSM. You havent owned a set of Emusa coilovers, and dont seem to have an open mind towards them... so who cares what you think

Hey it is your car buy what you want for it. You don't have to listen to anyone especially me if you don't want to. I am just trying to aid the uneducated.

 

[Leonthefaded]

Hey it is your car buy what you want for it. You don't have to listen to anyone especially me if you don't want to. I am just trying to aid the uneducated.

You cant aid the uneducated with unfounded opinion.

 

[Ravensfan314]

So has anyone that's actually owned these on a DSM had any problems with them? I mean, all bullshit aside, has anyone actually had a bad experience with these, that weren't caused by autocrossing or dogging the hell out of your car?

 

[H4G64T]

It's not an opinion... for the price you are going to get a lower quality product...now you need to decide what your level of performance is and how much suspension you really need for your goals.

 

[Revmoto]

You cant aid the uneducated with unfounded opinion.

It is only an opinion to the uneducated. I have taken apart many "budget coil overs" and compared them to quality coil over parts and performance and can tell you they are just a gimmick. Megan sells coil overs for many platforms and they all have the same dampener in each kit. It is garbage on those platforms and it will be garbage on yours. Excuse me if I am trying to prevent somebody from wasting what money they have saved to invest in their car. Like I said before it is your car mod it the way YOU want to but don't suggest bad parts to others.

 

[Ravensfan314]

You guys should really stop the arguing or take through PM atleast. Neither one of you are going to budge on your opinions and all it's doing is filling this thread with senseless fighting.

 

[H4G64T]

Once again it is not an opinion. Emusa coil-overs are garbage, the only purpose they serve is to get you the look you want. They probably don't even perform as good as stock. At least with things like AGXs and Illuminas (HPs even) you are getting a shock designed for your car and not a dampener that is force fitted to work for your car.