Custom turbo kit need some assistance

[99rs]

I'm going to be piecing a custom turbo kit together after the holidays and wanted to get some of everybodies ideas on what for parts I should get. I know what I need to get but want to know what everyone elses experiences are with what your running.

 

[cs82685]

SFMU- for its ease of use and adjustability
Walbro 255-definetly worth the piece of mind for the hundred bucks
Missing Link-no wires just 2 screws, can't make it any easier than that
I'd start with these specifics then you've got plenty of choices with everything else as far as price wise and brands
then if you want to make it easy pick up parts of a used kit together star or hahn (manifold dp and turbo all at once, don't have to worry about having something fabricated and then trying to figure out how to make everything fit if its not perfect)

 

[DSM-ZERO]

look at my profile, and start there

are you on a budget?
what parts are you looking at?
what do you want/
in the end were do you want the car to be? what are your plans for the furture?

 

[99rs]

I am on a budget.
I want what people are saying is a great performance part.
I am going with super 16g from hahns.
In the end I still wnat a steady daily driver but with extreme horsepower and torque.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

In the end I still wnat a steady daily driver but with extreme horsepower and torque.

If that's your goal, you might want to reconsider turbo-ing an N/A. Putting boost on the 420a is going to get you quite far from reliable.

 

[XMasta19]

If that's your goal, you might want to reconsider turbo-ing an N/A. Putting boost on the 420a is going to get you quite far from reliable.

 

[Boosted98gsx]

what? he said he wanted extreme power and torque with daily drivability. Those 3 words dont go together in a sentence with a 4g63, let alone a 420a

 

[selmerguy]

what? he said he wanted extreme power and torque with daily drivability. Those 3 words dont go together in a sentence with a 4g63, let alone a 420a

to some extreme is 1000 whp to others 300 whp. so let that slide. i would not buy a sfmu because then you are going to want something to tune it and by the time you get it you will have spent more then the megasquirt would have cost and got half of the goodies. the turbo system is easy it's the fuel that is hard. go msns i know i am.

 

[DSM-ZERO]

I am on a budget.
I want what people are saying is a great performance part.
I am going with super 16g from hahns.
In the end I still wnat a steady daily driver but with extreme horsepower and torque.

1. budget, how much do you plan on spending
2. Great performance? I think any part that is of a quality name brand is going to give you good perfromance
3. Supper 16g good daily driver turbo quick boost BUT your not going to be break neck speeds, sooo it is a good choice for a daily driver turbo
4. What is extreme HP and TQ to you? for me it is 600hp on only 25psi.....SO...how much power do you want 300, 400, 500, 600???

remember your going to have to "pay to play"
your going to spend money on a turbo set up, then if you want to turn up the boost, rebuild the motor, clutch, head work, transmission, engine mangament, tunning,
youll have to think about all these things in the furture. right off the bat a turbo kit starts @ $3000 BUT
you could spend less, if you peice it toghter your self also you could spend more if you pice it toghter yourself.
I am not trying to turn you away from turboing your car I think it is a great idea I just want you to know what you are getting into and hope you have dedication to your car

 

[99rs]

For right now I am not worried about how much I spend.

I want about 350hp. What and who has great parts?

For my exhaust should I go with 2.5" or 3"?

 

[DSM-ZERO]

3" downpipe and catback
your gonna have to re-build your motor
je pistons and eagle rods
crower springs retainers valves
clutch I say clutch master
injectors 450cc would be ok


you see when you rebuild your motor there are alot of things that you can do all at once while everything is out like
new everything
tranny work- lsd clutch
head- valves springs
but to do all this at once cost money and time so
you could just rebuild the motor and work on your car slowly

 

[Boosted98gsx]

3" downpipe and catback
your gonna have to re-build your motor
je pistons and eagle rods
crower springs retainers valves
clutch I say clutch master
injectors 450cc would be ok

i agree on the exhaust, 3"
Pistons/rods, i'd say pauter/wiseco
Supertech Dual springs/retainers/seats from FP
Clutch - ACT, there's a reason why Rau runs ACT and no one else runs clutch master that's fast
for 350hp, you'll need at LEAST 550's

 

[99rs]

I was planning on rebuilding the motor first then turbo it. as far as rebuilding i was just going to do the pistons and rods then put the turbo kit together. After i brake the motor in then rebuild the top end.


this is what I have this so far:

eagle rods/ JE pistons
super16g turbo setup
3" down pipe and cat back
walbro 255lph fuel pump
vortech fmu
FMIC custom piping
hks bov
boost, a/f, oil pressure, fuel pressure gauges

How much does the mega squirt go for?

 

[DSMcrazy3]

I believe for everything usually you will spend around 500. You will want a laptop though to use inside the car.

Those gauges are good, but you'll also need an EGT(Exhaust Gas Temerature) gauge if you're going to be tuning.

 

[selmerguy]

I was planning on rebuilding the motor first then turbo it. as far as rebuilding i was just going to do the pistons and rods then put the turbo kit together. After i brake the motor in then rebuild the top end.


this is what I have this so far:

eagle rods/ JE pistons
super16g turbo setup
3" down pipe and cat back
walbro 255lph fuel pump
vortech fmu
FMIC custom piping
hks bov
boost, a/f, oil pressure, fuel pressure gauges

How much does the mega squirt go for?

a guy from 2gnt is selling the whole thing ready to install fro 580.

kinda off topic but has anyone seen a stock 2gnt rod fail? i have not and if you want to save some money just go with the je pistons.

 

[xxxotiknightz]

when it comes to rod failure in a 2gnt, I have seen it in one of my former vehicles. It was a 95 rs and lets just say that the rod was outside the block while the engine was running. The guy I sold it to had only been driving it about a month when it happened, and there was about 2 secs of warning before it ripped through the block wall.
So yes they will fail, so I reckomend replacing the rods as well.
Oh and that was on a stock n/t 420.

 

[DSM-ZERO]

i agree on the exhaust, 3"
Pistons/rods, i'd say pauter/wiseco
Supertech Dual springs/retainers/seats from FP
Clutch - ACT, there's a reason why Rau runs ACT and no one else runs clutch master that's fast
for 350hp, you'll need at LEAST 550's

ALL OF THESE WOULD BE GOOD CHOICES IF HE HAD 4G63 BUT he dosent
he has a 420a
NONE of the companies that you named make parts for the 420a
except
weisco and clutch master
given the limited aftermarket support for the 420a is whyI satch masters because out of all the clutch makers availble it is the highest quailty

 

[DSM-ZERO]

I was planning on rebuilding the motor first then turbo it. as far as rebuilding i was just going to do the pistons and rods then put the turbo kit together. After i brake the motor in then rebuild the top end.


this is what I have this so far:

eagle rods/ JE pistons
super16g turbo setup
3" down pipe and cat back
walbro 255lph fuel pump
vortech fmu
FMIC custom piping
hks bov
boost, a/f, oil pressure, fuel pressure gauges

How much does the mega squirt go for?

I would get ride of the FMU and get a 1:1 aeromotive FPR
if you are going to be riseing and lowering the boost it will be ALOT eaiser to do so with a 1:1
the fmu is more of a beginner tool if you want to keep the boost low wand nevr raise it
also if you get some sort of engine managment you will not need it
e-manage
s-afc
standalone
EIC controler

 

[DSM-ZERO]

ROD failure
YES i have seen it happen to more than one 420a it is due to poor luberaction of the crank shaft
BUT please everyone stay on topic

 

[XMasta19]

sir yes sir...we'll all stay on topic now


umm, have you heard of SPEC?

 

[cs82685]

this is what I have this so far:

eagle rods/ JE pistons
super16g turbo setup
3" down pipe and cat back
walbro 255lph fuel pump
vortech fmu
FMIC custom piping
hks bov
boost, a/f, oil pressure, fuel pressure gauges

If you've got the dough i would recommend a wideband o2 sensor instead of the narrow band a/f gauge, my narrowband is such a piece i wish i had saved the money

 

[DSM-ZERO]

sir yes sir...we'll all stay on topic now


umm, have you heard of SPEC?

thats funny because Iam in the ARMY
Yes I have heard of spec I think there a good brand nothing agienst them but
for my need they did not have a clutch for me..which is why I went with Clutch master beccause they have a twin disc

 

[WHite97RS]

Motor:
JE Pistons
Eagle Rods
Total Seal Rings

Fuel:
Megasquirt
PLX M300 Wideband (in my opinion no need in getting a megasquirt without a wideband)
Aeromotive 1:1 FPR
im runnin 525cc injectors, just depends on your needs/wants
255 Walbro

Exhaust:
3 inch all the way

Clutch:
Im running a Spec Stage 3, takes a lil getting used to but it is still very streetable

Intercooler:
for your HP numbers you will prob want a FMIC, i got mine off of Ebay and have 2.5 inch piping

 

[BigRand]

Motor:
JE Pistons
Eagle Rods
Total Seal Rings

Fuel:
Megasquirt
PLX M300 Wideband (in my opinion no need in getting a megasquirt without a wideband)
Aeromotive 1:1 FPR
im runnin 525cc injectors, just depends on your needs/wants
255 Walbro

Exhaust:
3 inch all the way

Clutch:
Im running a Spec Stage 3, takes a lil getting used to but it is still very streetable

Intercooler:
for your HP numbers you will prob want a FMIC, i got mine off of Ebay and have 2.5 inch piping

For FMIC, I see the OBX intercoolers going for $250, good deal in my opinion.

Hey zero, how long have you had your spec stage 3, and its just a stage 3 right?
I bought the Stage 3+, and I love how streetable it is, it feels like a stock clutch right up until it grabs, then you know its serious about torque power.

 

[DSM-ZERO]

White97rs has a SPEC stg3
I have a clutch master FX600 twin disc Kevlar/Kevlar