Crazy Project Idea

[907gs-t]

check it.

Now that's different in a good way imo.

 

[bpestilence]

It would be a lot of work and money to make a car that people would just make fun of.

Not that you should listen to what everyone says, but there is just something...wrong...about a RHD DSM.

 

[knochgoon24]

I don't know who has the worse idea; you with a RHD conversion, or the guy wanting to turn his 1g into an airplane.

 

[AshTsi]

You know whats even better that the airplain/convertable? Meet the Targa 1g. If i was going to do anything extreme like that it would be the Targa top. Sooo sexy!

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[Benshooter]

You know whats even better that the airplain/convertable? Meet the Targa 1g. If i was going to do anything extreme like that it would be the Targa top. Sooo sexy!

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I love Targa top cars, but wouldn't that have a pretty negative effect on the handling since our cars are so flexy to begin with?

 

[AshTsi]

Ya, there was a pretty bid debate on another forum somewhere about how this would effect the structural integrity of the vehicle. Still looks badass though. The Targa 2g's are sweet as well, they resemble Supras IMO

 

[talontd92tsi]

When somebody finds a dash, pedal assembly, brake master cylinder, steering rack and k member that will work in a RHD setup, then the possibility is there, until then, forget it, it is a pipe dream that will cost you a LARGE fortune.

 

[dave99gst]

Ghetto Fab

 

[Beemer92]

I'm not 100% sure on this, but check into a evo 8/9 dash. I'm almost positive they had Japan versions of these. Seems to me to look alot closer than a FTO dash. But then you have a 1G, so things are gonna be different. Good luck.

What car is that setup in Dave99gst??

 

[talontd92tsi]

Why does nobody realize that it does not matter if he can get a dash that will fit, the steering will not hook up to the steering rack. So you will have a 3000 lb rhd paperweight.

this thread is rediculous. DSM's are not Hondas, and RHD is not cool (IMHO)

If you want a RHD vehicle.... Buy a Civic.

 

[123abc]

check it.

So yeah, that image is mirrored too. Look at the exhaust.


This whole thread is fail. Go buy a Honda if you want to show your car. Leave the DSM's to real gear heads....

 

[housegsx]

Why does nobody realize that it does not matter if he can get a dash that will fit, the steering will not hook up to the steering rack.

Sure it will.

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Just ask the passenger how fast you're going.

 

[mike96]

. thats funny. i have actually herd of someone doing something similar th that before in a fiero so that he could get his car imported to Australia, his was a lot more professional looking, but that definitely tops it.... genius

 

[Dewayne Waldron]

Wow. This is crazy. Though they did convert a few early 1ga's in Japan, but do you realize how hard it would be to find one of those today and how much trouble and money it would cost you. Good luck with that.

 

[dave99gst]

the steering will not hook up to the steering rack. So you will have a 3000 lb rhd paperweight.

I think that is one of the smaller issues - there are all kinds of ways to hook the rack up (creative linkages,servo motors,etc)

 

[UnsafeAtAnySpd]

. thats funny. i have actually herd of someone doing something similar th that before in a fiero so that he could get his car imported to Australia, his was a lot more professional looking, but that definitely tops it.... genius

I was going to mention the Fiero Australia thing. There's actually a write up on it on one of the Fiero forums. Really didn't seem all that 'hard' from what I remember. There's actually a few of them that have been converted.

 

[talontd92tsi]

I think that is one of the smaller issues - there are all kinds of ways to hook the rack up (creative linkages,servo motors,etc)

While I agree with you, but I still think that it is completely not worth it. THere are other issues as well, you would have to relocate the pedal assembly, the clutch master cylinder, the brake master cylinder, the brake booster, blah blah blah. the point i was trying to make is that all this is custom in a dsm as finding a RHD chassis will probably be next to, if not completely impossible.

If the OP wants to spend his next 5 years worth of paychecks for a mod that will
......... make him sit on the opposite side of the car............

More power to him... BUT

It's dumb.

 

[UnsafeAtAnySpd]

Thought I'd add something constructive to the thread (or at least try to)...

Here's the RHD Fiero Build I was talking about: Lets Convert a Fiero to Right Hand Drive - Pennock's Fiero Forum

I just skimmed, but it looks like by using a chain drive unit and something similar for the brake pedal so that most everything stays in its factory location. It seems like something similar could be mounted under a DSM dash as well (might have to modify HVAC shit, but still. Although it would cost a bit, I don't think it would be astronomical like some are suggesting.

As for the actual dash, I'm thinking 3000GT dash as well. Again, borrowing from the Fiero world, both 2g DSM and 3S dashes have been swapped in, so I'm assuming width is similar.

 

[FastGS-T]

Very possible, My friend converted his Ford Festiva to RHD By using a Sprocket/Chain Setup and then making his own nice vinyl covered dash. Car has been daily driven for years, and looks almost Factory

 

[One Equals Two]

Probably a late reply, but here's to shed some light on the subject. I am Japanese, hence, I know a bit about Japanese cars. And not a stupid "Dude, I am Asian..." no, I am authentic Japanese. I lived there, speak the language, and am full blooded, so about as 100% Japanese as you can get (that speaks normal English). Anyway...

I saw an FTO comment, they are sexy yes, but absolutely nightmares of cars to have. They are extremely unreliable from all I've seen, and very rare now, even in Japan, and I maybe have seen 2 dozen in my life on the road. You can pick one up for $2,500 if you find a running one. "You think DSM's are bad..."

Second, the Eclipse WAS available in Japan, but again, it was very very rare and only came in 2gas I believe. I never saw a 2gb but spotted three 2gas. To my knowledge and to other car guys I've talked to, it's a very coveted car and only came in turbo trim. At least, that's the only ones I've seen. It was known as the Eclipse GT and came with 230 hp stock (4G63 motor). All of them were front wheel drive. I have seen THREE the entire time I've lived in Japan, and I moved to the states two years ago. I never saw a 1g in Osaka, ever. Anyway, those were all RHD, and they were stock looking. They exist, but they are so ridiculously hard to find (trust me, I looked), and when you do, they are $13,000. An evo 2 or 3 is only 4K, and an R33 Skyline is 7.5K. The Eclipse is really not that cool compared to the rest of the cars available, which is probably why it did so poorly. Also, if I remember correctly, one of the Eclipses I saw was a 97, but still a 2ga.

Well, that's all I've got....but the American Eclipses are better. AWD as an option, etc.

 

[123abc]

Probably a late reply, but here's to shed some light on the subject. I am Japanese, hence, I know a bit about Japanese cars. And not a stupid "Dude, I am Asian..." no, I am authentic Japanese. I lived there, speak the language, and am full blooded, so about as 100% Japanese as you can get (that speaks normal English). Anyway...

I saw an FTO comment, they are sexy yes, but absolutely nightmares of cars to have. They are extremely unreliable from all I've seen, and very rare now, even in Japan, and I maybe have seen 2 dozen in my life on the road. You can pick one up for $2,500 if you find a running one. "You think DSM's are bad..."

Second, the Eclipse WAS available in Japan, but again, it was very very rare and only came in 2gas I believe. I never saw a 2gb but spotted three 2gas. To my knowledge and to other car guys I've talked to, it's a very coveted car and only came in turbo trim. At least, that's the only ones I've seen. It was known as the Eclipse GT and came with 230 hp stock (4G63 motor). All of them were front wheel drive. I have seen THREE the entire time I've lived in Japan, and I moved to the states two years ago. I never saw a 1g in Osaka, ever. Anyway, those were all RHD, and they were stock looking. They exist, but they are so ridiculously hard to find (trust me, I looked), and when you do, they are $13,000. An evo 2 or 3 is only 4K, and an R33 Skyline is 7.5K. The Eclipse is really not that cool compared to the rest of the cars available, which is probably why it did so poorly. Also, if I remember correctly, one of the Eclipses I saw was a 97, but still a 2ga.

Well, that's all I've got....but the American Eclipses are better. AWD as an option, etc.

Yeah.............but you guys got the cool tail lights on 1g's!

 

[DraginX]

Why does nobody realize that it does not matter if he can get a dash that will fit, the steering will not hook up to the steering rack. So you will have a 3000 lb rhd paperweight.

I was thinking the same thing, the dash is the easy part, if you have to you custom make one out of fiberglass.
The biggest problem is to do it right you need to do something with the rack, the pedal assembly, custom lines, etc, etc, etc... Huge waste of time and money just to be "different" and "cool".....

P.s. I only read up to talontd93tsi's post, so if this was already mentioned.... oops...

 

[One Equals Two]

I stand corrected, I found out that there were 1g's (which I though there were none) that were officially Japanese (RHD and production cars). They were just known as GSR-4s, not Eclipses.

The Eclipse GT was the 2g version of the GSR-4 of which about 3,300 were produced. There were 50 1g's.

 

[NeMiZiS]

I stand corrected, I found out that there were 1g's (which I though there were none) that were officially Japanese (RHD and production cars). They were just known as GSR-4s, not Eclipses.

The Eclipse GT was the 2g version of the GSR-4 of which about 3,300 were produced. There were 50 1g's.

I would love to see some pictures of these cars.

 

[MIdsm]

IMHO the RHD would work great for road racing as majority of tracks have more right hand turns than left. Just like circle track guys try to put as much weight on the left the RR guys tend to put it on the right (track dependant). The pedals could be a floor mounted setup from tilton, home made, something from rally-design in UK or any of the kit car makers. Rally-design also had firewall mounted universal pedal setups the last time I checked (RHD). The steering could be a little trickier. For example, Dodge Intrepid (or is it 300) has a firewall mounted power steering rack that operates the steering arms on the front side of the knuckles. Mount the rack upside down and it should work properly in the RHD setup vehicle with steering arms on the back side of the knuckles. The tie rod length and location could present a problem so measure and use at own risk. Air cooled Porsches (911 and 914), at least in the 70s, had steering racks that operated on the steering arms on the back side of the knuckles. The steering shaft connected to the rack in the middle of the rack. I assumed, and you know what that means, that one could use the same components in both the LHD and RHD cars. The shifter could be mounted on the right hand side of the steering wheel with fairly simple fabrication.

Please pardon my rambling and good luck.