Crap! No filter on turbo.

[nfernotalon]

I just remembered I've been driving all week with no intake or a filter on the turbo Im going to see if the 14b is damaged after work. How many guys have sucked up debris through their turbo?

 

[jpmxrider489]

What were you doing about a maf? My guess if it didnt break now then it wont. But I guess stuff can get in there.

 

[turboglenn]

haha right here, hit a snow bank one year on my old engine, had the filter inthe bumper and lost it and didn't know. spent a week using the 3" aluminum "cold air" intake as a device to suck up road salt and sand from the bad weather, It ate my compressor wheel to shit

I'll post a pic for ya

 

[jpmxrider489]

haha right here, hit a snow bank one year on my old engine, had the filter inthe bumper and lost it and didn't know. spent a week using the 3" aluminum "cold air" intake as a device to suck up road salt and sand from the bad weather, It ate my compressor wheel to shit

I'll post a pic for ya

Well glenn looks like you need a new turbo. But thats just me.

 

[turboglenn]

Oh yea, replaced that bi*** last summer with a 67mm PTE BB unit, now i'm on a custom holset.. can you believe i still made 438hp and 396 torque with it like that pushin 30psi and tuning on e85 baby, who says balance and good fins are a must

That was my old 57 trim by the way and that was after 110k + miles, the bearins in it were still perfectly good as the day i built it during my training at majestic turbo (it was like my gift at theend of myaprenticeship) I've since put a new comp wheel on it and mounted the turbine and comp in a BB CHRA but it spooled so fast it surged horrible so i'm gonna make a BB 50 trim and put the 57 back to journal bearing

 

[nfernotalon]

What were you doing about a maf? My guess if it didnt break now then it wont. But I guess stuff can get in there.

Long story short on Sunday I was messing around with my gm maf translator turned up the boost to 17psi. Then it started snowing so I shut the hood and went inside. I was suppose to put the intake and filter back on Monday before work but forgot.

Good news looks like the 14b is ok it's indestructible .

Oh yea, replaced that bi*** last summer with a 67mm PTE BB unit, now i'm on a custom holset.. can you believe i still made 438hp and 396 torque with it like that pushin 30psi and tuning on e85 baby, who says balance and good fins are a must

That was my old 57 trim by the way and that was after 110k + miles, the bearins in it were still perfectly good as the day i built it during my training at majestic turbo (it was like my gift at theend of myaprenticeship) I've since put a new comp wheel on it and mounted the turbine and comp in a BB CHRA but it spooled so fast it surged horrible so i'm gonna make a BB 50 trim and put the 57 back to journal bearing

Holy crap Glenn I don't think that's what they meant by cleaning up the streets

That's a damn good turbo if you ask me, thats taking punishment.

I put the intake tube on along with the stock filter and mas, i have no choice since the I only have my fp 4in intake pipe and won't fit on the 14b.

Let me say you have no idea how restrictive the 1g mas is until you take it off. Same boost and the car feels like a pig

 

[1990AWD]

Sounds like you got pretty lucky!

 

[talonalex92]

I used to drive around all the time with no filter element on my 14b.. Even if I did suck shit into it, it was fine. I have since moved to chicken wire style mesh, available at ace hardware. Clamped with a hose clamp, and its good to go.

I wouldnt do it in the winter by any means, but summer and sunny, why not.

 

[1990AWD]

I used to drive around all the time with no filter element on my 14b.. Even if I did suck shit into it, it was fine.

Are you dumb? WTF

 

[nfernotalon]

I used to drive around all the time with no filter element on my 14b.. Even if I did suck shit into it, it was fine. I have since moved to chicken wire style mesh, available at ace hardware. Clamped with a hose clamp, and its good to go.

I wouldnt do it in the winter by any means, but summer and sunny, why not.

I might just do this while I put on my h1c in a couple weeks .

 

[GSLENK]

does no filter make that much of a difference? for the street though, drag cars do it but thats another story... I dont see the risk/reward factor being positive at all here.

 

[jpmxrider489]

I dont think thats a good idea. For god sakes just put a filter on it.

 

[nfernotalon]

does no filter make that much of a difference? for the street though, drag cars do it but thats another story... I dont see the risk/reward factor being positive at all here.

Well it's not only the filter but the 1g stock mas that's more of the problem. I felt a big difference. In second I'd take a while to spool with the stock maf an filter without it all it would almost lose traction in second. I don't want to spend money on an intake when I have my fp sitting there waiting for my holset.

 

[WIDSM]

Don't drive without a filter on your turbo. I learned my lesson.

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Oh and that's from the turbo sucking in a vacuum line.

 

[jimbob_843]

Yep looks like that 16g was hungry.. Why risk it? Just use protection!!!

 

[turboglenn]

Yep looks like that 16g was hungry.. Why risk it? Just use protection!!!

I put some trojens on my turbo and lost all boost

j/k I had to run several layers of fine mesh on my 67mm turbo for a few days while i waited on some 4" aluminum pipe to make an intake from (filter didn'thave room to go direct on it) and to be honest i didn't feel like i gained anything without the filter compared to with a filter on a 4" intake pipe. If anything i was losing power from drawing hot air right form behins the radiator..

now i posted about this one time and some guys said on drag only cars they noticed a gain with no intake pipe at all, and i've seen others report gains as much as 40hp from going from an intake with 2 90* bends to one with only a single 45* bend but both keeping the filter drawing in cool fresh air compared to what's behind theradiator

But anyone on the street i've ever seen running just a screen or no filter at all for any length of time all ended up ruining turbos and engines (not good to do) and guess what they were all honda guys

If you really want rid of the restricition of a MAF get one of the flashing programs or DSMlink with speed density.. I'd never run a maf again after having my taste of SD 15-17 years ago

i remember it like it was yesterday when i swapped my 89lx fox body 5.0 to a stand alone speed density (accel DFI) from the OEM MAF system with an EEC tuner.

 

[jimbob_843]

Haha, well those honda kids probably used a magnum and it fell off.!!!!

 

[turboglenn]

Haha, well those honda kids probably used a magnum and it fell off.!!!!

LMFAO i wonder how many will get that one... nice!

 

[onefast2gdsm]

I've been running my 16g on 22psi with just a filter for about 6k miles and have not noticed any damage to the turbo or engine. I too am curious if its even beneficial to have an intake pipe.

 

[1990AWD]

I've been running my 16g on 22psi with just a filter for about 6k miles and have not noticed any damage to the turbo or engine. I too am curious if its even beneficial to have an intake pipe.

This isn't if its beneficial to have a pipe or not, this is about whether you need a filter or not. Obviously you need the filter.

On a side note, I bet you would help putting a pipe on just to get the intake air somewhere colder. People have shown insane results just going from a filter on the turbo to a pipe and filter drawing air somewhere colder.

 

[talonalex92]

No im not dumb, and I didnt say I gained anything from it. It was a choice. Its not the first time someone will do it, and its not the last. The area I live in, doesnt have shitty roads where I really need to worry about something catastrophic magically making its way past everything on the bottom of my car and into my engine bay, and then finding its way into a 2 inch hole.

 

[1990AWD]

Well your risk. You've seen in this thread alone the carnage that can be caused.

 

[motozachl]

Many of the gm maf peeps run with no filter