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Sounds like $620 for the aluminum rods if I'm adding it right. Lol. Hard to do and all. Wonder if they still go for that same amount or not. Lighter and cheaper??? Hmmm.....
 
v8s_are_slow said:
Sounds like $620 for the aluminum rods if I'm adding it right. Lol. Hard to do and all. Wonder if they still go for that same amount or not. Lighter and cheaper??? Hmmm.....
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The steel ones are still on their site for $599. So, I would assume the aluminum would be the same price. I guess you have to call for the aluminum though, they aren't listed on the site.


Notice they said "Approx. weight would be between 470-480grams." This statement leads me to believe that at that point in time that they didn't have even one set produced so they were guessing what the weight would be.
 
All rod weights have been added. List has been rearranged from lightest to heaviest. Let me know if there are any others you want added.
 
Oh okay, yeah, nevermind. I really don't care about it being a 7 bolt or 6 bolt. I'm going with a spec 4 or 5 clutch and they have light pedal pressure as it is. If I build a 7 bolt and it walks, I'll just build another one. Not like it'd be the end of the world to me (I guess I'm use to having to pull tranny's and motors now. Lol.). I'm in debate mode though on which block I'll be using though (mainly depending on which one I can pick up from a friend).

One thing I'm wondering though is if I get an aluminum rod is, do you have to get a 7 bolt piston no matter what cause of the wrist pin? Doesn't matter to me, but just info I'd like to know in advance.
 
You mean the one's made by Howards? I have thrown a pile of broken one's away at the shop. We weren't to impressed with them. Crower or Manley in steel and Groden in aluminum are our preference.
 
From post 96...

Map billet rods = 652 grams

And one of the pictures of them says Howards right on the side.
 
Slippi84 said:
Well safe to say that they aren't true 1000hp rods then because I doubt everyone that broke them made that much hp.
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They were broken on V8's. In my opinion they are just a generic copy of Crower/Manley. I have no issue with MAP, just the manufacture of those rods.
 
v8s_are_slow said:
Think I'm about to have a 99, 7 bolt motor. And maybe looking at the GRP's since they seem to be pretty light. Anyone know if the main cap/girdle has to be grinded down as much as a 6 bolt motor would as I see being discussed on post #7 here....

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hangout/209797-grp-rods-vs-eagle-rods.html
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Well, it will depend on if it is staying a 2.0L or a 2.3L stroker. The main girdle may need a small amount of clearancing, but you will still need to do a decent amount of clearancing in other places inside the block.

Really, it is no biggie. You need to do block clearancing for any stroker.
 
I did a stroker once but this time around it'll be staying a 2.0 motor. Just waiting for those freakin tax dollars to come in so I can get this project under way. Grrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Buschur also carries a rod company named BME I believe. I would like to take a look into those. I will be ordering a set of grodens and MGP's shortly.
 
Slippi84 said:
Ayone have any installed pictures so that everyone can see clearance needed for a paticular set of aluminu rods.
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Those are the only ones I know of.
 

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Those are the only ones I know of.
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Is that rod in the first picture shaved ? I know they said you might have to shave the rod I REALLY don't like that idea I would much rather shave the cap connector.
 

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Is that rod in the first picture shaved ? I know they said you might have to shave the rod I REALLY don't like that idea I would much rather shave the cap connector.
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Yes it is Sean. You are right also, the main cap brace is what should be shaved down.
 
Slippi84 said:
Yeah I even thought about getting a set of those billet main caps and a girdle and just eliminate the need to shave anything
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The billet main caps are unnecessary, and only involve alot more machining to be installed on the engine. Save your money and machine the stock main caps. I don't think I have ever heard of the stock 4G63 main caps failing.

If you are going to be running a 6-bolt, I would recommend looking into the Kiggly main girdle for extra support.

If you are running a 7-bolt, then it is only necessary to clearance the stock main girdle to fit the rods (on a 2.0L; but you will need to still clearance the rest of the block to clear the rod stroke; especially if on a 100mm crank).
 
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