can't get into any gear

[v8s_are_slow]

i just bought an act2600 about 4 months ago. pulled the tranny 2 weeks ago cause i thought the throwout bearing was bad. replaced it but inspected my clutch while i was at it. the disc was shot. friction surface was fine but the springs were about ready to pop out (and it was making lots of noise).

so today i pulled the tranny again to install a new eclutchmasters 6 puck disc and fidanza flywheel. kept my act 2600 pressure plate though. during the install i checked the step on both flywheels. the old one was .600 and the fidanza was .610 (brand new or course). was checking them just for the heck of it cause before i changed it, the master cylinder was all the way out to the last thread. wanted to see if the new flywheel step would make a difference.

well, before i changed it, it was shifting into gears. now it won't go into any. not even close. can't even get the pdeal all the way to the floor and the master cylinder is being a pain to turn. i even made myself a slave cylinder rod that was maybe 1/4" to 1/2" longer. still nothing. i'm thinking of maybe changing the slave cylinder and master cylinder just to be sure. but before i waste my money, is there anything else that it could be?!?!? i mean it was shifting just fine before i changed it. hmmm.....still had the same pressure plate. it's just a new flywheel and clutch disc. could a .010 difference in height make that much of a difference? figured if anything, the higher step on the fidanza would make it easier. anyway, thanks for anyone's opinions. REALLY not wanting to pull my tranny again.

scott

 

[thejeebus]

Hey man

This happened to me before. What may be the problem is that the clutch pack needs to be broken in a little bit. The pressure plate is old and is worn together with the old flywheel and clutch disc. Try this, start the car in gear (make sure it's somewhere that it won't injure anyone) and push the clutch in. If that doesn't work you can always do what i did. I just yanked it into gear and then backed up, moved forward a few times and it worked like a champ.

Scott

BTW- I assume no responsibility for this if you mess something up.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

the pressure plate is only 4 months old. and it's a new fidanza flywheel and new 6 puck clutch disc. so that definately isn't the problem. the pedal doesn't start to get any pressure till about half way down. if i drive it and push the clutch in, it sounds like it wants to disengage but it's as if it just doesn't have enough adjustment (which is the reason i'm wanting to try out welding a nut onto the bracket behind the clutch pedal so that maybe it'll give me more adjustment.....so long as it's not gonna blow out the seals). if i start it with the car in gear and the clutch all the way down, it just starts moving. so it's definately an issue of it not wanting to disengage. just trying to figure out the reason why.

 

[Mike1992]

Sounds like you have a worn out pedal assembly to me

 

[v8s_are_slow]

nope, it's tight, already checked that. for those of you who didn't read this whole thread, here's what i typed earlier. maybe this will make it somewhat easier....

k i did the washer thing on the pivot ball today. put 3 washers in. didn't help but it feels closer when i move the fork by hand. i've replaced the master cylinder, slave cylinder, clutch line, act2600 pressure plate, eclutchmasters 6 puck disc, fidanza flywheel, put in a longer slave cylinder rod, and i've bled the system twice just to be sure. the rod on the master cylinder is at the end of the threads and hanging on for dear life. i ALSO measured both flywheels from front to back (only the section where it mounts up though) and it was about the same. the pedal assembly is tight as well. anyone know of anything else that could be wrong? and the fork looked fine btw. i'm fresh out of ideas.

still, no one has given any thoughts about if the seals would blow on the "master cylinder" if i welded a nut to the bracket on the back of the clutch pedal for more adjustment. does no one know the answer?!?!?

 

[Mike1992]

have a friend push the clutch in and out for you and you get under the car want to see how far the actual clutch fork is moving measure it and ill compare to my car. Got pics?

 

[Mike1992]

and I think by adding a nut or something onto the master your going to over-extend it and wear out the seals or possibly just blow it. Dont think this is a good idea

 

[92awddsm]

contact act and see what the disc thickness is supposed to be then check yours. Ive seen manufacturers defects makie it to the public. It could be thicker than spec.

 

[v8s_are_slow]

i'll be throwing the tranny back in tomorrow. had to get it welded up. also, i welded a nut on the end of the bracket and tapped it out to clean up the threads. if i need the extra couple of threads they'll be there. i'll let ya'll know what happens.

but also on a side note, when i was taking the bracket out, i realized that the push rod had screwed itself in some (the locknut wasn't tightened down). so i was like what the heck?!?!? but i turned it back out to the end and it got some pressure once again....FINALLY....but it still wasn't where it needed to be. i think an extra thread or 2 might do the trick. i'll keep ya'll posted but i KNOW that if it weren't for the 3 washers behind the pivot ball, it wouldn't be anywhere near being close enough. stay tuned......

scott

 

[v8s_are_slow]

okay, it's workin. woohoo!!! the nut did it. as well as the washers under the pivot ball. just so ya'll know.....incase anyone else has any of these problems. i only needed a couple of threads so hopefully it won't be too much on the master cylinder. anyway, thanks for the help guys. laters!

scott