best cams for my setup 1g auto 300 awhp

[1bad91tsi]

What cams would you recomend for my setup.I have a b16g ported,2g manny ported, full 2.5 freeflo ex.,ebay fmic setup.Im not sure what injectors i need with this also.I was thinking 550s or should i go bigger?I will need some sort of piggyback also(thoughts there?)I have a completly stock car(yes unmodified,dont ask how i found it)now but i was going to do all the upgrades at once.Do i need aftermarket cams or will m/t suffice?I want 300-350 awhp,is that possible with this setup?

The car is a 91 6 bolt and runs like a top.oh its an auto

 

[kahl23]

Well, if you have a couple hundred bucks lying around that you're itching to spend, I'd say 264/264 or 264/272 would work best for your set up, but they're not necessary for 300AWHP. For engine management there's always the old standby of the Apex'i SAFC II and, for more money but also more versatility, DSMLINK. Pretty much you should look around the site some and get a feel for what other people have done. A simple search for DSMLINK, DSMCHIPS, SAFC, etc, should give you all the necessary info that you need to make a decision. Good luck!

 

[dsmconvict]

I was also looking for an answer to this. But i am running a 14b w/7cm housing.

 

[kahl23]

Never post when extremely tired, you end up answering the same question twice.....yeah Im an idiot.

 

[skeeter4200]

If I were you and you are looking for the 300-350 mark I would go with bigger injectors than 550, like 650's as far as the cams the 264intake/272exhaust would be g2g If you have the cash dsmlink is the best option (thats what im getting ready to do) but you can get a decent tune with a Safc-II and invest in a good EBC that doesn't leak off (my problem) and that will get you there

 

[firefightermdc]

i dunno about the SAFC for tuning, just save the extra cash and tune on dsmlink, much better way to do it. i even prefer a wideband tune on maf-t to the safc, but it can work. also the 272's are the way to go if you're gonna keep it a daily/street car, if not, go with 280's. 550's will support your hp goals, but are pushing the limit, so i would say go with 650's if you can find em and downtune for now, you can always step it up later when you feel that 300hp is slow..youknow how we all get used to power and end up wanting more! also ditch the 2.5" piping and step up to a full 3" exhaust and get a 190 or 255 pump

 

[hostile kid]

264/272 cams would be good, but id say put the money into dsmlink instead. I say get atleast 650s instead and also youll need a larger fuel pump such as walbro 255.

 

[drewvr4]

Just to throw this out here on injector size, I just put down 345whp and 321 on 18 psi on a holset running 550 injectors at 88% injector duty. I would be willing to say that maxing out a set of 550s would be good near 350whp.

So get some 550s

 

[JusMX141]

Seriously, any upgraded cam that you buy is going to move your torque curve much higher in the RPM range.

Before you take torque away from the low end on your Auto DSM, you'll need a torque converter with a higher stall speed or you'll be very disappointed.

 

[FonZ454]

My big16g with stock cams and similar setup put down exactly 300awhp/299wtq. Look in my profile for mods. Stock cams will get it done.

You will definately need 550s or larger (would really recommend 650-680s to maximize your turbos potential) and some form of piggyback tuning. DSMlink is awesome, SAFC will get the job done.

 

[autotalon]

the m/t cams will get you to 300 no prob. but, you will need a lot of other stuff to go with what you already have.

2g maf
fuel pump
550's
afpr
safc
logger

that will get you to 300 with a good tune.

 

[1bad91tsi]

I should add that i have a aem WBo2 and i plan on using a 2g mas.So i need bigger than 550s and dsmlink.3 inch exhaust also.
If i go with a maf-t how will it act with the auto ecu(390 inj.)?Should i look for a m/t one with dsmlink?

 

[1992awdlaser]

Forget about the cams for right now. With the money you save on the cams buy dsmlink. A 16g can max 550's fairly easy. If you buy dsmlink then buy some 1000cc injectors. You can control them just fine with dsmlink and you won't have to upgrade later like if you bought 550's. If you were using a 2g mas then you wouldn't be using a maf-t. The maf-t is used in conjuction with a gm maf. I would rather do a gm maf myself as it can flow quite a bit more air. The maf-t won't have any bad effects with the auto ecu since you would be using dsmlink to control fuel. You have quite a bit of learning to do. I would search and read.

 

[1bad91tsi]

I dont want to pay 500 bucks for 1000cc injectors i will never use.I guess i should tell you i want to go fast for as little money as possible(rx7 injectors or other cheap j/y)I didnt mean mas-t with the eprom.Can you run the gm sensor with just the dsmlink?

Also im not going to change the cams.Im leaning toward 660cc injectors.Still unclear on the fuel control issue.My ecu doesnt have the eprom so should i just safc the auto cpu or get a m/t eprom-remember cheap as possible!

 

[1992awdlaser]

As cheap as possible. That would be a safc with evo injectors which are 560's. But again you can max those out with the 16g. The biggest you want to do is 650's with an safc. 1000's are $320 brand new from a company. You can find them new on ebay for 200 something. The best way to do it is what I already mentioned. But you can do it either way you want. What times do you want to hit with the car?

 

[drewvr4]

For god's sake don't buy 1000cc injectors just because you can, you will run into some headaches when setting that up. Not to mention I think you have to bump your fuel pressure to do it.

If you going with a SAFC and you MUST buy injectors then 650s or DSMLink get some 880s

 

[c4uldr0n]

Shameless plug, but if you are interested in getting cams, I have some 264/272's laying around. PM me.

Stock cams will get you to 300 and beyond. The only advantage to getting larger cams is if you have a larger turbo that needs higher rpm to spool.

-c4

 

[JayRolla]

If you have e85 in your area I would look into that. You could run that and make 350whp without cams on that 16g. If you get dsmlink I would go with 850's-1200cc injectors. 850's if you stay on crappy pump and larger for e85 since 30% more fuel at wot is needed to get good afr's. A 255lph at least would be needed and an afpr to keep that pump under control.

Im going a cheaper route. Im about to install a maf-t with some 1150cc injectors to run e85 and use my safc for fine tuning. Also a 255lph and an aftermarket fuel filter, 6an line from filter to rail. Stock fuel line from tank will work fine.

Ohh and if you decide to get cams I would run a 272/272 combo because if you do upgrade the turbo they will open it up really nice. Its been dyno proven that 264/272 combo makes like 10-16lbtq over the straight 272 combo on a 16g. But they wouldnt work that well on a larger turbo

 

[1992awdlaser]

For god's sake don't buy 1000cc injectors just because you can, you will run into some headaches when setting that up. Not to mention I think you have to bump your fuel pressure to do it.

If you going with a SAFC and you MUST buy injectors then 650s or DSMLink get some 880s

Have you done it? It doesn't sound like it. What kind of headaches do you think there are? You are wrong again thinking that you have to touch the fuel pressure to use them also. Look at the mods in my profile. I have 1000's with dsmlink and there was no problem with them, even on a stock turbo with minor bolt ons.

 

[JayRolla]

Have you done it? It doesn't sound like it. What kind of headaches do you think there are? You are wrong again thinking that you have to touch the fuel pressure to use them also. Look at the mods in my profile. I have 1000's with dsmlink and there was no problem with them.

Sometimes there can be issues, mainly on 2g's since they run higher fuel pressure. If you do the math a 255 cant keep up with 1000's at 42psi fp. 1g's have 37psi and the injectors are rated at 42psi so the injectors are acting more like 880cc injectors. Not correct math but somehwere around there.

 

[1992awdlaser]

If have to take into account that he won't be maxing the injectors out. If he got to that point I would hope that he has more than a single 255 anyway. And putting on a bigger feed line will help also.