My Goal... 300 AWHP

[rborgia]

Ok, simple... I hope.

My plan is to have a 300 AWHP 1999 GSX. Not just 300 AWHP but reliable daily driven.

I was planning on using the following:

Evo III Big 16G
3" Exhaust / Downpipe with HFC.
ExtremePSI Intake
550cc injectors
MSD Wires
FMIC (Not sure which yet)
Upper IC pipe with Type S BOV.
A/F I was thinking simple like S-AFCII, but I was also looking at the DSMLINK
2600 ACT clutch.

Thats basically the majority of the main stuff, other supporting mods like Gauges and all will be added.

Before doing any of this work or even ordering anything (Besides the intake which is ordered)I am doing the timing belt, misc Belts, all hoses, plugs, vacuum lines... all the maintenance stuff.

My question is this: I don't want to go crazy inside the engine... it does have 106K miles on it. Am I going over kill if I rebuild the head for this kind of a build? I don't want to oversize anything, stock size, maybe valves, lifters, springs and retainers. And also just to clean things up a bit.

Should I do more to support 300 AWHP? Is it necessary?

Also a Fluidyne Radiator... will there be any interference with the above mentioned turbo? I am concerned with having a FMIC and blocking the stock radiator. I would rather be safe and get a better Radiator.

Thanks!

 

[Jimmy Jr.]

Stock radiator is fine. Get a slimline if it starts to overheat.

 

[DSMunknown]

to more safely support 300whp, i would reconsider and go with 660 injectors.

i regards to the radiator, why not replace it? if you don't want to, at least get the upgraded fans from FAL, to flow more air into wherever.

 

[David15151]

stock block can handle 300hp without breaking.. until the idiot factor comes in.. which can ruin any block at any power level. Hell, power wheels arnt safe from them.

 

[igopoopy]

it can handel up to 450 but like ^^^^ sayed

 

[PGTred95]

In regards to the cooling topic, I believe the stock fan actually outflows most, if not
all of the slimline, fal, and other variety fans.
The setup sounds good, you should be able to hit 300awhp w/about 19-20lbs on the e316g w/some decent tuning. A logger and an afc would be the cheapest route.

 

[HSK]

fmic. get one. or get an upgraded sidemount.
if you get a fmic, make sure you have a shortroute.

radiator, you dont need one, actually after installing your fmic and taking out some plastics, youll noticed that your radiator is not all that clogged.

dont need slimmier fans, not for your setup. youll be spending too much for something thats not even really needed. everything should fit, there enough room for a fmic w/16g.

safc should be fine. dsm link wont hurt. price to power ratio for you goal, ill say safc.
dont forget tuning takes time and money.

couple things, you left out..
fuel pump 190 will do. 255 is same price, its up to you.
seriously look into a evo iii o2housing, port it, this should help stablize your spool.
while you are doing all that work, think about getting a evo iii mani, port it. or just port your stock one.
for plugs get ngk colder plugs, (i belive its bk7es) change this pretty often, only cost like $7 for 4. (cheaper than oil) at 15 psi .28 gap will do...
port the evo iii 16g. especially that flapper area wastegate.
i might of left few things out...

btw, nice set up.
get some nice tires to hookup.

 

[Stoner]

Regarding the safc or dsm link, I would save up for the dsm link if you can. I just ordered mine and cant wait for it to get here. Tuning on a 2g with safc and logger is kind of a pain to me. You cant log knock and in my opinion the info displayed on the logger isnt really enough to get a really good tune. Unless you are a really good tuner, which I am not (yet).

Just my .02

Plus dsm link has a lot of other great features, well worth the $$$

Good luck,
Keep us all updated on your build

 

[DSM90AWD]

my .02..
make sure everything is in proper working order/tune PRIOR to making all these mods.

Other than that.. I have a similar setup and am close to that mark on pump

 

[HSK]

just realizes i put .28 for gap. i meant .028

 

[rborgia]

Hey all...

thanks for all the great replies.

So I am going to save almost $400.00 by not buying the radiator and will apply that to porting the turbo, flapper, Ex-Mani.

All maintenance work will be done before I add any upgrades (Other then the air intake / Gauges). This includes All belts, hoses, plugs, plug wires, water pump, filters.

I forgot to mention the fuel pump. I planned on going with a Walbro intank 255lph since it is the same price as the 190.

As for the FMIC, You guys mentioned making sure I take the shortest route. Any suggestions as to a FMIC that I should use?

And as for the head, should I rebuild it, just to cover that area and make sure its solid?

Thanks again...

 

[NewB2dsm]

Look at my mods in profile + i have comp cams now but for some reason it says i didnt complete a feild when i tried to add that. so i could save it. I made 338awhp on race gas and 303awhp on pump.

WIth an evo 16 it would be alot more. You can do it just fine, and you dont "need" short route piping. Its nice but i dont think a ~foot less of piping really matters at our power level.

 

[DSM90AWD]

I know right now you're wanting "300HP".. but that is a very easy # to achieve with simple bolt-ons (more cars than not making this without a big FMIC).

Though.. its highly likeley once you start modding you'll want more (damn these cars ) so some forward thinking now (i.e. a decent 3" exhaust FMIC) will save you $$$ in the future.

 

[rborgia]

I know right now you're wanting "300HP".. but that is a very easy # to achieve with simple bolt-ons (more cars than not making this without a big FMIC).

Though.. its highly likeley once you start modding you'll want more (damn these cars ) so some forward thinking now (i.e. a decent 3" exhaust FMIC) will save you $$$ in the future.

This is very true, However!

The BOSS (cough my wife cough cough) has set a limit on modification spending this time. I spent almost twice what my 3G cost in modifications and the car ran like #$%^...

So I really want to make sure it will be RELIABLE, SOLID and most of all FUN! To me, moding the car adding sound systems is all about my enjoyment and learning... its fun. So when it is no longer fun... then I will need to find the next project.

But like you said... I need to really think things out before jumping. I want to make sure the exhaust system I buy is 3" and will last till my next engine build and Turbo upgrade.

QUESTION: Turbo-Back Exhausts? Do they typically come with HFC? and would most connect right to the EvoIII Big 16G?

Thanks

 

[DSM90AWD]

This is very true, However!

The BOSS (cough my wife cough cough) has set a limit on modification spending this time. I spent almost twice what my 3G cost in modifications and the car ran like #$%^...

two words.. PayPal (wifey doesn't have access to that one )

QUESTION: Turbo-Back Exhausts? Do they typically come with HFC? and would most connect right to the EvoIII Big 16G?
Thanks

Most come with a longer downpipe which eliminates the cat.. and then the cat-back portion. If you keep your OEM Downpipe/Cat.. will be good for those emmissions checks.

The EVO 16G bolts up directly to your OEM 02.. hence any aftermarket Turbo-Back system. If you upgrade to the EVO 02 housing (huge piece ) the DP outlet flange ha a slightly different angle so may need to "tweek" the Downpipe Flange.

 

[Dfish1]

hey sounds like my car I've got a lw flywheel as well, and 650cc injectors... did you metion boost controller? all i need is fmic and turbo timer the car should be a blast, btw i got 130k it's running great!

 

[brunoboy]

Hey all...

thanks for all the great replies.

So I am going to save almost $400.00 by not buying the radiator and will apply that to porting the turbo, flapper, Ex-Mani.

All maintenance work will be done before I add any upgrades (Other then the air intake / Gauges). This includes All belts, hoses, plugs, plug wires, water pump, filters.

I forgot to mention the fuel pump. I planned on going with a Walbro intank 255lph since it is the same price as the 190.

As for the FMIC, You guys mentioned making sure I take the shortest route. Any suggestions as to a FMIC that I should use?

And as for the head, should I rebuild it, just to cover that area and make sure its solid?

Thanks again...

oops, didnt mean to bump and old thread........

 

[turboglenn]

I agree on bigger injectors.. 550 actually (at least according to the slip that caem with my RC 550's) are supposed to hold 330 -350HP at 85%duty cycle.

AS for fans, I had sim lines on mine, they caused over heating and eventually loosened up and wore holes in my radiator. I redid my piping and ahve teh stock main fan back on and it's holdint temos great now +! for stock fans.. just wire them so both channels work together for the #3 setting of "extra high"

 

[winterftbl]

How is it coming together?

 

[TermTrky]

Be sure to do all timing components, and might as well pop off the oilpan and do the rod bearings for reliability. Have fun with your build :]

 

[turbosax2]

Old thread guys....

 

[kmoore]

Old thread guys....

Yeah no shit. I'm sure he is good now.